southsider2k5

Are you giving credit to Tony LaRussa for Kannapolis this season? You invent the weirdest strawmen.

He WAS a good manager back in the steroid era. That was decades ago. The rest of it is exactly the type of stuff he has failed at.

That is his record in recent years, if that's a flex, so be it. The Sox fell apart under his watch. There were also collapses in Arizona and Anaheim.

Dude inherited a rising playoff team that self-destructed under his watch. That isn't the flex you think it is.

My bad, yes, correct. Cubs claimed him and assumed his deal

It was a trade. Don't recall if they waived him first, but Civale asked for a trade if the Brewers wouldn't start him. Days later the Vaughn trade happened.

I will allow it.

Harvey's Wallbangers

Chris Getz's best trade ever. Knocks the Cubs out.

These shows are the same ones who just spent years calling Katz the pitcher whisperer, and Santos a future manager based on what the team was feeding them... yet hasn't asked what happened and why so far after they were unceremoniously dumped. It's the same ones who praised the last administration until they got fired, and then promptly switched sides. You'll have to excuse me if I don't take everything the Sox tell their reporters to report at face value.

That's such a simple approach. If a reliever goes into a game with the bases loaded and no one out and gets the first guy up to roll into a 6-4-3 DP, he gets a blown save. It's a dumb stat for middle relievers.

It took me a minute to remember who the hell Hill even was.

While it is endlessly amusing to trigger the ankle biters, I am very serious here. The Sox need to do things better than other teams. Catching up isn't good enough. This isn't going to be a franchise to spend over mistakes. They have to do those little things better than the things they are chasing, and for no other reason than it is the cheapest and most consistent way to keep a quality MLB from year to year. Forget signing the next utility garbage and C tier free agents. Figure out the next thing, not the last thing.

I am putting that money into everything BUT the on the field team. International scouts, MiLB scouts, top coaching and development people, facilities, technology, etc. Quit acting like we should be impressed by getting the stuff other teams got a decade ago. Do whatever we can to get ahead of the curve. Hell looking into AI analytics programming before it takes over baseball and we chase that a decade later. Get ahead of teams instead of even.

With the complete collapse of Bill's team since one HOF QB left his care, it makes you wonder if one Brady is really what put Bellichek on a HOF path. He was terrible with Cleveland before he ever got to the Pats. He was pretty awful in his first year in Boston. Brady shows up and everything changes. He gets those 20 Brady years and everything is great. Brady leaves, and NE instantly collapses.

I think the only paths here were that being able to control everything in the college game would go smashingly well for Bill, or it was going to be an unmitigated disaster. Looks like it was disaster FTW.

Then we aren't reading the same thread.

They are idiots then. You are down to 2/32 left for Benny. Just eat it like a real MLB franchise.

I don't think we are reading the same thread then.

We aren't signing flip candidates. At this stage we are still signing flop candidates.

I think if you compare the two most recent rebuilds, the previous rebuild was front loaded with a lot of potential superstar talent which is why the rankings were at the top of almost everyone's lists. The quickest way to rebuild is to have superstars in your system. I think with this rebuild the guys who have the best chance being top talent, have also shown some pretty big flaws (or are still super young). Whether it is injuries, or performance issues, or some combination of both, those top guys have a lot of asterisk's after their names. I will say I think that this rebuild seems be generating more depth. Even during the previous rebuild, I was setting off the alarm of how few position players we had in place throughout the system. We didn't develop any basic players. This rebuild is already generating guys in the 0-1 WAR crowd. Now those aren't the guys that you get to the playoffs with, but when guys have injuries, you can plug them in without disaster. They make good utility players to give guys days off. Most importantly for a team with payroll issues, if you are churning out guys like this, you aren't wasting $3 to $5 million a person to bring in guys off of the street to do these jobs. The Sox problem to this point is if you are going to make up the 30 games that we need to make up to get to the playoffs, we need a system that outperforms the team in front of us to gain games. I know the Twins are mid-collapse, but we have a ton of work to do to catch up with teams like Detroit and Cleveland. We need some stars. We need Colson to be the guy he was for most of his time in Chicago, and not the guy he was for a lot of the season in Charlotte. We need Hagen and Dutch to be those guys in the front of a rotation, and not a reliever like Grant Taylor. I keep saying, but the Sox need a top 2 pick really, really badly.

#HeGetzUs

And it completely ignores the fact that the Cubs are FAR from the only team who has a ballpark village type of game day experience. You don't need to be playing day games for this to happen. Hell it is public record as to how much Atlanta is raking in doing just this.

Wrigley Field is FAR from the only team in this bucket, though it appears to be the one you chose to focus one. How about Atlanta? How about Boston? How about Arlington? How about St Louis? Have you ever stopped to think that if your theory about the Sox limiting their own fan base to only the favored ethnic groups you pointed out, and limiting themselves only to a certain segment of the city is actually hurting the team by robbing it of revenues that could be used to improve the team on a year to year basis when the bandwagon empties out? Nah. It has plenty of parking, who cares.

Which is exactly why the Sox want to grow the fan base beyond the bandwagon.