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QUOTE(DePloderer @ May 1, 2006 -> 09:47 AM) Yes I can pull up specific hotels. I reckon I'll have to choose which attractions we want to visit first. Obviously U.S. Cellular Field will be on the Saturday night. Something downtown would give you the truest Chicago experience, especially if you can get something with an excellent view of Grant and Millenium parks. In that case you are only a couple/few block walk to Chicagos excellent public transit train system, which will only run you a $1.75 per person each way, and drops off/picks up right at the ballpark. Something with a N Michigan Ave adress or Wacker Dr would be your best bet. The drawback is that these are also the most expensive spots in town. QUOTE(Texsox @ May 1, 2006 -> 09:50 AM) You have to love old Hotels. Some of the rooms are tiny, based on modern designs, and remember it is about 100 years old. Check their packages, I was usually good at finding deals. But I would schedule my stays around the deals. And, if travelling to Milwaukee the Pfister Hotel is another favorite. I see they have closed the English Room, which was a very nice restaurant. LOL. He's English. Our idea of "old" is modern artitecture in London.

QUOTE(Texsox @ May 1, 2006 -> 10:01 AM) First off, the premise may be wrong and highlights one undisputed fact, having people here we don't know about, and aren't included in the census, makes a fair public policy difficult to reach. If the 12,000,000 was based on counting the ears of workers and dividing by two, and now there are less workers, perhaps the entire population could be much less. Maybe there are only 7,000,000 illegals? As the number gets smaller and smaller, does it mean we should take the issue less and less seriously? I have no idea what you are trying to say in the first paragraph to be honest. As for the second, we keep getting told how big of a disruption to things sending 11-12 million workers home would be, when in fact the US is showing that only about half of that amount are actually employed here, and many of them, might not be the people that are in focus in the news. Also if that number is way less than we thought, the potential impact on economy is much less than the predictions which are being offered up by the pundints, right? Plus this keeps getting sold as the US punishing hard working people, but if only about halfish of the people who are here illegally are actually working, how much of that is actually true? The numbers and the portrayal of the situation don't add up at all, but I guess I should be used to that by now.

QUOTE(Texsox @ May 1, 2006 -> 08:52 AM) Professional and Business Services, reports I've seen here theorize that these H1B Visa holders who have overstayed the Visas, and other infractions like that. So yes, there are some computer programmers, tool and die makers, etc in that mix. But for the most part, at least what the Economic Development Groups here are claiming, these aren't the sneak across the river types. So exactly how misrepresented is the story of the poor Mexican who just wants to work here? The numbers thrown at us say 11-12 million people here working trying to scrimp and save some money. The US's statistics are saying in the whole work force only 7.2 million people are working illegally, which means something in the area of 60% of the illegal aliens could even be working. Then if you combine that with the people Tex is referring to who overstay work visas from other countries, and we could be looking at a whole lot less of the population specifically from Mexico and Central America who are in the US and actually working... Could the story of being here and doing the jobs that no American wants to do just be a myth? How do you explain the other at very least 4 million people who are here not working?

QUOTE(DePloderer @ May 1, 2006 -> 09:28 AM) I am now trying to find a hotel. Not knowing Chicago at all, I don't know which area to choose. Can anyone help? The choices seem to be; DOWNTOWN Loop Near North North Michigan Ave River North South/South loop Lincoln Park/Lakeview. What is the best way to get around Chicago, we'll be coming in from O'Hare. Bus? Rail? Can we get a family pass for a few days? Can you pull up specific hotels or not? Also the best hint might be what you guys are planning to do while you are here. The right hotel could save you a train or bus ride for some attractions.

QUOTE(Texsox @ May 1, 2006 -> 08:42 AM) Anything to help those unemployment numbers. I haven't seen anyone making the argument illegals are accountants, Doctors, lawyers, etc. It usually is manual labor jobs, so I will accept that on face value. FWIW

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Apr 28, 2006 -> 04:08 PM) Yeah, but the dudes with the better cups went home with the hottest broads. Hmmm probably more like the broads with the bigger cups went home with the riches dudes

Interesting graph I found in the Sunday Trib... It seems that of the estimated 11-12 million illegal aliens in this country, only about 7.2 million are actually working. Does this mean we are planing on deporting 4-5 million people even with the guest worker program? Would that fact change people's opinions one way or another on the program?

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Apr 28, 2006 -> 06:23 PM) The real key difference here is in whether or not the laws are just. In this case, the U.S. immigration laws clearly are not. There are seemingly 10+ million positions that were available in this country for workers which our immigration system was unable to fill. You create a legit system for allowing workers into this country to fill those jobs, such that the demand for illegals (aside from in slave labor) actually does go down, and you don't have this problem, and I have vastly less sympathy for these folks. These folks are here because of our laws. We have this problem because of stupid, poorly designed laws that were probably originally written by a bunch of racists. Fix that problem and then you can watch my sympathy dry up. Who gave them the right to decide which laws were just and which ones weren't? Isn't that what we have courts and judges for? Also don't forget one of the main thrusts of the anti-war sentiment in Iraq is that the Bush admin decided that the Iraqi admin wasn't just and since no one else was going to do anything about it, they would. Under the logic here, Bush and company were perfectly justified in attacking someone/thing that they felt was unjust, simply because they felt is was unjust. Remember we have laws for a reason, and if people just start deciding which laws are "just" and which ones aren't things turn into anarchy.

From the bathroom remodeling thread.... QUOTE(Iwritecode @ Apr 28, 2006 -> 02:19 PM) Most bathrooms already have a urinal. It's usually called a shower...

QUOTE(The Critic @ Apr 28, 2006 -> 11:46 AM) Shameless blog whore....even 2k5 doesn't work that hard at it.... I resemble that remark!!! http://www.talkbulls.com/forums/index.php http://www.talkbears.com/forums/index.php http://www.talkbhawks.com/forums/index.php

Awesome to see pro atheletes stepping up to the plate, where worthless ownership won't do so. http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sp...cs-sports-print

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Apr 28, 2006 -> 10:46 AM) I'm surprised food aid can even get in there any more. In fact, I doubt it actually is. Then again if the UN had done more years ago, instead of wasting time arguing the definition of "genocide" things might not have gotten to this point either...

Damn is that funny

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/africa/04/28...reut/index.html Un-f***ing-believable.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Apr 28, 2006 -> 09:28 AM) Soxtalk is the greatest, and this is why. Now if Soxtalk could bring Kap and I together to play some video games... scary.

Game 3 Summary-Miami Meltdown

QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Apr 27, 2006 -> 10:09 PM) AND THATS A CHICAGO BULLS WINNAR!!!11!11! That was a fun game thread too I have a game 3 recap that will be up soon for all to see.

QUOTE(Walker2Baines @ Apr 28, 2006 -> 02:36 AM) This from Baseball Reference's Similar Pitchers through Age 26 John Candelaria (957) Mike Hampton (949) Mark Mulder (945) Jim Merritt (944) Tom Glavine (942) Bill Monbouquette (940) Ross Grimsley (939) Dave McNally (937) Mark Gubicza (936) Tony Cloninger (935) Of those listed only Glavine will make the HOF. Others fizzled out for whatever reason. So please stop this BS about MB. He's nothing about a crybaby. Hey MB great game vs Seattle. Hey are they cheating??? Speaking of fizzling out, I wonder how long you will last around here...

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Apr 27, 2006 -> 04:32 PM) He's not banned. And actually as of this morning the suspension is done as well.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Apr 27, 2006 -> 06:48 PM) I know the Hall says what team you go into it with, but WHEN Jim hits his 500th HR with the Sox, and IF Jim wins a World Series with us, does he go into the Hall a White Sox? Not a chance. When all is said and done, Jim Thome is an Indian through and through. Its how he should be remembered.

QUOTE(Rex Kickass @ Apr 27, 2006 -> 04:59 PM) I love the fact that people call a demonstration intimidation yet a threat to make 12 million instant felons and put everyone that looks Latino subject to scrutiny over their papers is just a legislative agenda. I love it when people knowingly break our laws repeatedly, and expect to not only to be welcomed into the country, they are threatening to punish us if we don't give into their demands.

So I got a survey from my insurance company today... They wanted to know if when Madison was in the ER a couple of weeks ago, it was for a work related injury.

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Apr 27, 2006 -> 03:31 PM) This Bozich guy sounds like a tool....... ^^^^

Wow.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Apr 27, 2006 -> 02:43 PM) Summer in Texas, by a long shot. The Dan Ryan, or overcrowded South Shore Train? The South Shore, it makes for better blogging QUOTE(Texsox @ Apr 27, 2006 -> 02:44 PM) No, it's winter in Texas and summer in Chicago. Get your old people seasons correct Summer in Texas Oak Street Beach or ESPN Zone? The Zone MLB.com boards or ESPN boards?