southsider2k5

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Dec 28, 2005 -> 02:05 PM) That has only worked once......ask Spiff how he charmed it out of me..... Wait a second, are we back on leathery balls again?

QUOTE(BlackBetsy @ Dec 28, 2005 -> 01:57 PM) I don't get this estimate. My own estimate is about $90 million: Total $90.05 just eyeballing your figures, i would say the Score isn't including the money we got from the other teams into things. The difference comes to about $10 million, which is about the difference in the numbers.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Dec 28, 2005 -> 01:39 PM) IMO, the only one who really knows what the payroll is going to be is JR. Everyone can make smart estimates, and thats fine, but lets just wait and see what happensm because I think another suprise or two could be coming. Obviously only JR, the board, and Kenny really know what is going on with the final number. I am just going with the Sox zero profits philosophy as a guide to what 2006 will bring. The things we know are this. -Whenever the Sox have profits one year, they payroll increases by that amount the next season. -Whenever the Sox have losses, the payroll decreases by that amount the next season. -There have been multiple occasions in the past where KW has gone to JR and talked him into a few million more in payroll to make a move to improve the team. -The Sox have an estimated $15-20 million in extra revenues from the playoffs alone -The Sox season ticket base which supported a $75 million payroll last year, has gone up almost double this year. -The Sox get a cut of advertising revenue from CSN as a part owner of it, and we all know ad rates will be going up in 2006. -JR is also heading the stadium negotiation committee for the Washington Nationals, so he is privy to vital info as to when the sale of the franchise will most likely be done, and how much of a share they should expect from that. I see a lot of good signs for the Sox not having to make a big subtraction move here.

The payroll number is scary, but doesn't necesarily mean that we are trading someone. Bear with me here folks. Coming into this off season, the goal stated for season tickets was to move the base from 11,000 to 15,000 people. Before January first even rolled around, we are at 20,000 people now, which means we are sitting on about an attendance of 1.6 million people before a single regular season single game ticket has been sold. Last year we sold about 1.3 million of those on our way to the World Series. This year we have a World Series title to sell tickets with. If we even sell another million tickets or so from here on out, we are looking at another 20% increase in attendace over 2005, theoretically putting that much more cash into the budget. I said it in August, and I will say it again, $100 million is very, very possible for this team to maintain in its current form.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Dec 28, 2005 -> 01:28 PM) Don't you mean "You can't"? Yeah, can't bleh. Its probably known around here as the "Carl Everett" rule

QUOTE(maggsmaggs @ Dec 28, 2005 -> 01:18 PM) I don't think there is a rule for FA or extensions unless there is no trade clauses. I know though you can't trade a draft pick for year or something like that. I'm pretty sure you can trade a new FA signee before either May 1 or June 1 of the next season.

QUOTE(fathom @ Dec 28, 2005 -> 01:14 PM) Sign-and-trades are not very common in baseball. As a matter of fact, I thought there's a rule about how long you have to wait before you can trade a guy after signing them. I thought that was just as a free agent signing. this is a contract extension. i could be wrong though.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,179880,00.html

The Garland trade threads are closed. The thread about his signing is pinned in Pale Hose Talk.

The Garland trade threads are closed. The thread about his signing is pinned in Pale Hose Talk.

The Garland trade threads are closed. The thread about his signing is pinned in Pale Hose Talk.

QUOTE(LosMediasBlancas @ Dec 28, 2005 -> 12:57 PM) Garland re signed, 3 years 29 mil. QUOTE(LosMediasBlancas @ Dec 28, 2005 -> 12:58 PM) 7 mil 10 mil 12 mil HOLY s***!!! Wow, that was the last thing I expected to see. I wonder if Jose Contreras is crapping his pants yet?

QUOTE(sayitaintso @ Dec 28, 2005 -> 12:32 PM) Was this guy good during his playing years because i think i am too young to remember or know who he is. He is 6th all time in Saves.

Very nice work as always

QUOTE(jasonxctf @ Dec 28, 2005 -> 12:22 PM) how did i forget someone that we weren't talking about or debating about??? g hw bush's post-presidency actions are not part of this discussion. We were talking about Clinton, Carter and Reagan's actions. You may want to go back and re-read the posts. You might want to take your own advice there... There was discussing on lots of ex-Presidents and I seem to be reading Bush41s name in more than a few posts. Maybe you were leaving him out, but his name was floated multiple times in this very thread. I could post you links if you seemed to have missed them.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Dec 28, 2005 -> 12:29 PM) Well, I was looking at some of the financial data last night - the yield curve on bonds was inverted. You will get more for your investment if you invest short term vs. long term in bonds - which often signals a recession. Yes, there's things that can be done - like the Fed can stop raising rates... It will be interesting to see how this plays out down the road. I see today's market it's "corrected" itself. But they are still very close together (the 2 year yield vs. the 10 year yield). Comments, southsider, aka Mr. Bowtie? You kinda took my technical analysis out of my mouth. The Yield curve corrected itself today, so things have relaxed, but I am not too confident in at least the stock market for the short term. We have made about a triple top bouncing down off of 10950 each time. There seems to be a lot of resistance to going through those levels, and we might well see something like 10500 tested in January/February before we rebound. One thing that bodes well for us is that the rest of the worlds economic data over the last couple days seems solid, along with the US's. It seems to be just the one indicator that was out of whack for whatever reason, and that is just an interest rate function. From where the shortterm rates are priced, they are looking at Bernanke giving us two more 25 basis point adjustments with us ending up at a prime rate of 5%. If the inversion shows up again, I think you will see the Fed just not raise rates and see what happens. It will be interesting to see how this plays out in the shortterm though.

QUOTE(jasonxctf @ Dec 28, 2005 -> 11:39 AM) yeah how much did he make for the Tsunami and New Orleans help??? Once again... Interesting that you forgot the other side of things...There was that other dude who went to SE Asia and NO with him...oh s*** what's his name

Try searching Froogle or Ebay, they are all over the place.

QUOTE(Texsox @ Dec 27, 2005 -> 06:32 PM) I would also say, no matter where Carter wanks as President, he is easily the greatest Ex-President in my lifetime. No one has done more to help the disadvantaged. While Reagan jetted off to Japan for a $two comma speaking engagement$, Carter would be building homes for the poor. Interesting that you mentioned Reagans paid engagements, but not Clintons... That is exactly what he has been doing since he retired, making speeches and getting paid a ton of money to do so.

There is a special place in hell for people like this. http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/12/28/katrina.fraud/index.html

FWIW http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=1448232

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20051228/D8EOV9I00.html Skilling and Lay are going on trial by themselves.

QUOTE(Fotop @ Dec 27, 2005 -> 06:40 PM) No Xbox 360 version? You mean for the like 8 people who actually got an Xbox 360?

QUOTE(jasonxctf @ Dec 27, 2005 -> 03:47 PM) i cant recall the specifics of how the gauge success vs failure, but if it's test based, a law like this forces teachers to teach to the test rather than just teach students how to learn. The sad thing is teaching to the test would be an improvement over the social promotions that have plagued the system for years. As it stands now we have a generation of HS grads with no skill sets whatsoever, because no one ever had to pay for not teaching them something. We have been investing in a system that only rewards the top HS students and robs the rest of them.

QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Dec 27, 2005 -> 03:11 PM) .277 Career Average. 342 Home Runs. He made a ton of Errors. He had some good stats and he was a very good player however I think HOF players are elite. Not just very good. I think of him as good but not Hall of Fame type. 342 homers today isn't much. 342 homers primarily in the 60s is like 500-600 homers today. The same goes for the .277 batting average. Rember we are talking about an era that was the best for pitchers since back into the deadball era. Santo played back when Bob Gibson put up a 1.12 era, a .301 for Yaz led a league in hitting, and it was preDH so all offensive stats during that time are WAY lower. Errors are another stat that is misleading from that time. #1 the fields are in MUCH better condition today. You don't get nearly the bad bounces that you used to. #2 EVERYTHING was an error then. Today generous scorekeepers would rather give a guy a hit than an error if at all possible. There is not a doubt in my mind that errors are WAY lower today vs 30-40 years ago. Don't make the mistake of comparing eras with just bald statisics. If we did that, there wouldn't be a pitcher alive today who deserves to make the HOF. You have to get off of the statsheet and compare how good players were relative to their era.