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QUOTE(Kalapse @ Nov 22, 2005 -> 03:19 PM) Rowand currently has the most value of any expendable player on the roster. He is most likely on the block. Plus with where the Sox depth is in their system, he might be the most easily "replaceable"

QUOTE(Steve Bartman's my idol @ Nov 23, 2005 -> 10:57 AM) It is baseless drivel either, Nuke...here are the facts. 1) We now have billions of dollars in federal deficit, after Clinton left us with billions in surplus; 2) Re. the environment, Bush pulled us out of the Kyoto accord, eased pollution standards on big corporations, is trying to destroy the Alaskan wilderness for a "few drops of oil", etc. 3) Re. the "War on Terrorism", attacked the wrong country, has NO plan on how to get out of Iraq, hamstrung Israel. 4) Foreign policy...crammed bad deal after bad deal down Israel's throat. I'll just speak to #1, but would you have preferred that Bush let the economy just go into the toilet after 9-11? Other than that, what money-free solution did you have to saving people's jobs???

QUOTE(Irishsox1 @ Nov 23, 2005 -> 10:59 AM) I remember when Delgado was a free agent in Toronto, they asked him about the White Sox and he said that he hates US Cellular field and wouldn't sign with the Sox, no matter what. So, even though he would be a good fit for the Sox, I wasn't holding my breath. He did turn down a trade here at the 2004 trading deadline as well.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Nov 22, 2005 -> 03:16 PM) Caveat: I wouldn't say that if it hasn't collapsed it's not going to, just because right now we haven't a clue what's going to happen as the "Froth" in the housing market begins to dissipate over the next few years. If it were to happen rapidly...it could do serious damage to the economy (hopefully Bush's pick for the Fed chair is smart enough to keep his eye focused strongly on the housing sector, and I think he is...the goal right now I think is to hope for a soft landing on that front, which won't do serious damage to people's pocketbooks.) Just a follow up to this from yesterday... The arch nemesis of the housing markets, interest rate hikes, maybe a thing of the past very soon.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Nov 21, 2005 -> 08:49 PM) He had a siezure - had to administer CPR and a difibulator... he's at the hospital now and doing well. That's scary s*** when you're watching it live.... and have a good friend who plays hockey on the other bench. God I hate name droppers

QUOTE(Jeckle2000 @ Nov 23, 2005 -> 02:21 AM) It's irresponsible to not give Vegas a team... It's obvious the AL west desperately needs a new team... (a 4 team division, what a joke)... and it wouldn't hurt for attendance... How exactly is it irresponsible to not give Las Vegas a team?

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Nov 22, 2005 -> 04:35 PM) Ownership has two years remaining on the stadium lease and will like to move when the lease ends. They'd like to move to New Jersey (Jayson Stark said that wouldn't happen) and if that doesn't work they like the idea of moving to Vegas (personally I think we all know Selig would never let this happen). New Jersey would be awesome. The NYC area needs a couple of more teams to split that revenue up more to take money away from the Yankees and Mets.

QUOTE(Rex Hudler @ Nov 22, 2005 -> 10:33 PM) I'm somewhat surprised at the low number of people that got shares/cash from the Sox. The Sox paid less people than any of the 8 playoff teams, and less than HALF the Cardinals paid. It's the players money and they can do what they want with it, I'm just, at least on the surface, surprised they didn't share the love a little more. Factoring in the Sox minimal roster changes last year, it makes sense. There weren't many injuries, and there weren't many trades.

QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ Nov 22, 2005 -> 04:04 PM) Interesting theory. I'm not sure if there is anything to it. But then again, just a few short years ago the Flying Spaghetti Monster was scoffed at as well. Luckily I have my pirate hat on today ARRRRRRRRRG

QUOTE(watchtower41 @ Nov 22, 2005 -> 05:10 PM) Not really, moreso that stupid Mountain Dew promotion where they gave one away every 10 minutes. The demand is actually very high on these, microsoft just couldnt produce enuogh to supply the launch demand, they certainly are not gonna keep it from people that they are hard to obtain and the gift of the season. My buddy pre-ordered in June and didnt get one. Do you really believe that the biggest company in the world can't make a few more Xbox's? Seriously? This is the same company that can crank out 80 gazillion copies of Windows when it comes out every few years, do you ever hear about shortages or capacity problems with ANY other MSFT product EVER? Yet it just so happens to be in the same product category, and at the exact same time of year that everyone always has a shortage of their brandnew gaming system. This scarcity is COMPLETELY manufacured (or lack there of I guess would be more acurate). They want to create a huge demand for it, complete with people paying $1000 a piece on Ebay so that in March when they do have them available you will RUN out to buy one at the bargin price of only $400 each, and feel lucky that you got one. This is just excellent marketing, nothing more.

QUOTE(easyw @ Nov 21, 2005 -> 10:47 PM) In obvious violation of copyrights laws, I am purchasing a DVD recorder with the intention of reproducing the games WITHOUT the express written consent of the Chicago South Side Ball Club and Major League Base Ball. If Selig wants to come after me, he knows where to find me! Not without your name and address

At least there is some occasional scoring that involves the Bears offense.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Nov 22, 2005 -> 03:16 PM) Caveat: I wouldn't say that if it hasn't collapsed it's not going to, just because right now we haven't a clue what's going to happen as the "Froth" in the housing market begins to dissipate over the next few years. If it were to happen rapidly...it could do serious damage to the economy (hopefully Bush's pick for the Fed chair is smart enough to keep his eye focused strongly on the housing sector, and I think he is...the goal right now I think is to hope for a soft landing on that front, which won't do serious damage to people's pocketbooks.) It could, but I don't think it will. I honestly think it would take a big interest rate hike to have that happen. Even with our move up, we are still on the low end of the historical norm when it comes to interest rates. The measure increases in interest rates tells me that they realize they don't want to blow up the housing market the way they did the stock market in 2000 when no one listened about irrational exhuberence.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Nov 22, 2005 -> 03:09 PM) Caveat: that could change a LOT in a year. We have already long passed the worst of things economically. The economy is doing pretty amazing considering what energy and commodities are at. If it hasn't collapsed now, it isn't going to. Basically it will take an indictment of Bush or Cheney, or a terrorist attack to take the focus off of Iraq IMO.

Wow. That doubled the salaries of some of those guys.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Nov 22, 2005 -> 03:02 PM) I am/was trying to have an intelligent conversation with you, thats what some of us like to do here..... QOTM

QUOTE(Mercy! @ Nov 22, 2005 -> 02:51 PM) Son, you might want to look up yonder and see who started this thread. When someone drops into a pretty good discussion and starts up with the Dems are traitors who give aid and comfort to the enemy talk, as Kap just did, yes, I am disgusted. Or maybe exasperated would be a better choice of words. But in my brief time in this forum, if I needed a model for a poster who did nothing but drop into political discussions with a sarcastic remark and then disappear, I need look no farther than you. Why don't you add to the discussion with something positive, or at least constructive? LMFAO! Keep on attacking.

QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ Nov 22, 2005 -> 02:30 PM) Yeah, your dork activity book is already filled up. I Kid. I Care. I Check my Mailbox Each Day For Beer.® Speaking of checking ones mailbox filled with antica pation...

QUOTE(Mercy! @ Nov 22, 2005 -> 02:16 PM) That sounds like a raving lunatic talking. Did you mean to use green? Or should I just tune in AM blab radio? By the way, what IS George W. Bush's policy in Iraq? Classic. Attack the messenger, not the message. Tex should be along anytime now to mock you.

QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ Nov 22, 2005 -> 01:43 PM) It's not the Iraqi government, and not an endorsement per se, more of a concession to the Sunni that are the source of the insurgency. Clearly an argument can be made that the US forces are functioning as an "institution designed to provide for the welfare of Iraqi citizens," and the Iraqi police and security forces even moreso. But not specifically spelling that out in the joint statement coming out of the reconcilliatory meeting is an appeasement to the Sunnis. And a troubling one at that. But it should serve as an indication that, even from the perspective of the elected Iraqi officials, our continued presence is met with resentment. SS2k5, your Pinky and the Brain ref was cute. But how far off do you think that is from the truth? It doesn't take a tinfoil-hatter to know that gaining or losing control of the 3rd largest oil reserve in the world (Iraq) may well be the difference between whether or not America gets crushed under China's bootheels over the next 20 years or so. And control can come in many forms. If American companies land the contracts to rebuild the oil infrastructure, we control the oil (Iraq would make money as well, but so would the American firms. Plus we could negotiate near-exclusive rights to the oil so long as we are paying market value for it.). If on the other hand China's CNOOC takes that money from, say, the failed attempt to buy Unocal and instead uses it to outbid western companies on partnering with Iraq in reconstruction, then the landscape changes quite dramatically. The Neocon failure, despite themselves, would be absolute if that were to happen. On a completely different note, you brought up the tinfoil hatters... I have a completely different direction on China and the tinfoil hat if you are in the mood for amusement. When it comes to defeating China, I honestly believe that GWB or whoever is calling the shots is taking a page out of Reagan's playbook and is more interested in controling the capital/commodities prices to smash China's economy than they are in who controls the oil fields. Stick with me here for a sec. One of the most interesting things that Ron Reagan did to take down the iron curtian was the "encourage" commodity prices to plunge. This had a huge adverse affect on USSR as they were a massive exporter of commodities and capital goods, and were highly dependant on those wares to fund their huge governmental budgets and big need to import food stuffs. It also made their govermental institutions which kept most of the country employed around those exports incredible money losers. Think about it. Oil got down to $13 bbl, Gold and Silver fell to lows they hadn't seen in decades, steel became as cheap as it had been since the 50's, etc. This, not something like perstroika, was the death knell of the Soviet Union. Their economy collapsed because their exports became worthless, and they couldn't fund their country. The economic collapse led to the desparate measures which opened up their economy. I believe China is the same idea, except in reverse. China is a HUGE net importer of capital/commodity goods. Their economy is predicated on cheap materials coming in, being turned into good which they export to fund their government and their near full governmental employment. Now that has dropped off over the years, as China has let some institutions fail, but nothing like there would be in a pure profit driven system. The goverment still absorbs the lions share of those losses. Now I believe that the US wants to see all of those things that China needs to thrive as expensive as possible, as they don't have the disposable income to absorb the inflation in the prices of capital and commodities. Now if you look at those samethings, we all know how expensive energies are right now, but Gold and silver are at 20 years highs, steel is as expensive as it has been in a long time, etc. Granted this is my theory, but I think there is a solid basis in conservative governance and economics to back me up here. It could all be coincidence, but I don't really believe that.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Nov 22, 2005 -> 12:55 PM) Of course "They" have...if by they you mean everyone in Iraq who's currently trying to blow anyone up. But if I understand that correctly, the Iraqi leadership gave endorsement to actions solely against the U.S. forces there. So as long as you're not targeting Iraqis.... Yes the Iraqi government is endorsing the murder of all of its own and US soliders. That makes total sense.

Umm this part was kind of important and renders the rest of the negotiations useless. I would say targeting people voting, the police, medical personel responding to a bombing etc would all fall under that category. They have been targeting anyone and everyone, not JUST military personel.

QUOTE(hitlesswonder @ Nov 22, 2005 -> 12:29 PM) Does that mean you're sure he wasn't on the juice? How can you know? He had a mediocre second half in 2004, got hurt in 2005, and is the sort of power bat that fits the profile. I have no idea if he used steroids or not, but I don't think it can be dismissed out of hand. I would say that the 10 or so prior injury free years, and the fact that he has always been a hulking monster since he came up with Cleveland would be two huge holes in your theory. It would be kinda stupid for him to start doing the juice right when MLB starts testing for it.

QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ Nov 22, 2005 -> 12:13 PM) I will download and read when I have the time, thanks for the link. To be sure, intelligence failures pertaining to all of the issues listed in that blurb have abounded in America for a very long time. Its 140+ pages, so make sure you have plenty of freetime

QUOTE(fathom @ Nov 22, 2005 -> 11:01 AM) 19 rebounds from a point guard is unheard of. Unheard of, but true. http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/recap?gameId=253250096