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Vince Velasquez got MORE money this winter. https://twitter.com/ByRobertMurray/status/1600206396368515072?s=20&t=Rj5OeBudLmixwV7DZYLkmw

I would do that deal in about half a second.

Sale had TJS. We know what happens to him. Quintana was never the same after 2016. We KNOW that. What else are you adding and where are you getting them from?

So you have nothing? Firing Rick Hahn isn't a JR approved move.

I will even give you hindsight here. What JR approved moves could the Sox have taken to make that mess into a playoff team in a shorter period of time than the rebuild did?

How can you look at what we were doing then and think that WAS the answer? We did get 2 playoff appearances, which was more than we had seen since 2008.

The tanking part was just fine. The returns for the players they dealt were about as good as could be. The problem was execution. We didn't draft well, and we sure didn't take advantage internationally after Robert. We also didn't take advantage of all of that savings to lock in players to our weakspots. Besides, running around in neutral wasn't working. We had done it for years.

Look if this was a team with a history of spending, sure, be patient. But we are here precisely because team DIDN'T follow up on its promise to invest once the team was good.

Sox fans: Same Rick, same.

Yoan is pretty much the canary in the coal mine here. Of all of the players we need recovery from, he is the one that may well show up as an indicator as to how good this managerial team is.

I would be really curious as to how this would look.

That's the thing about Yoan. He's done it at the major league level. Even his 2021 he was a 4 WAR/fWAR player.