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It's Vaughn, and then every one else. Also it isn't particularly close.

Good to finally see this happen. For the record, we should all be savoring this moment. The Sox drafted a raw SS in the middle of the 1st round with a high ceiling out of a JuCo who had a minimum of ABs. They developed him into a batting champion, a defensive wiz, a great clutch hitter, and now an all-star. What a great win for Timmy and the White Sox organization.

Apparently a now former poster couldn't handle Soxtalk anymore, so they went out showing how much class they actually had. I think all posts have been addressed, but if not, hit the report button so they can be taken care of.

You know it is your night when Seby gets an XBH.

To be fair Buehrle had a coolness factor of eleventy twelveteen.

I will allow the thread.

Sounded like it was off the handle.

Look, when teams call Rick Hahn, all of them are going to ask about Dylan Cease. They are all going to want to take on that arm and ceiling. No one is valuing him as a failed prospect, otherwise his name wouldn't be coming up in these kind of discussions. They are all looking to add talent like that to their system, and for a good reason. If you don't get that, you don't get it. There isn't much that can be done. If you are more hung up on your biases here than how this stuff actually works, that's a totally different story.

This is not that point. He does not have a history of failure like you are trying to paint. Dylan Cease still has plenty of trade value, significantly more than shitty rental trade.

That's not how trade value works, but hey, feel free to imagine what ever makes you happy.

I would really be curious to see what the Cubs are looking for in a package like that. Both are on expiring deals and contain a bit under $20 million in payments left this season. Do the Cubs pick up dollars or do they look for return?

You literally used the term minimal trade value in your edit.

Or Giolito...

That still doesn't make the trade price for Dylan Cease, Joc Peterson.

2006 is a playoff team under the current rules.

How Reynaldo ended up today is immaterial and a distraction. The only relationship would be his trade value after his first or second season. In fact even after all of his failures a guy like Reynaldo IS the type of return that the Cubs can hope for from Peterson.

That's a non sequitur which has zero impact on what I just said. Same with Rey Lopez or any other immaterial thing you want to drag in here.

There is a chasm of space between 4 years of even a back end starter and Joc Peterson, let alone one with the potential and arm of Dylan Cease.

Yet here he is for the 2nd year in a row outperforming those numbers by a significant margin.

Then you don't understand trade value in 2021.