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QUOTE (zenryan @ Aug 6, 2011 -> 10:12 PM) Anyone catch Sanders HOF speech tonight? I saw Dent's and some of Sharpe's and couldnt take anymore. I heard Sharpe's speech was incredible.

QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Aug 6, 2011 -> 09:10 PM) Kyle Orton's stats are inflated by being down early. I was reading a Broncos message board a few months ago and there were these insane stats that show when Orton is tied or winning a game, he's downright horrible, but when he's down 17-7 or something, he's really good with 6-19 yard passes but his passes down the field at 20+ yards are horrible too. It seems like Orton is benefitting from prevent defenses. Neither him or Tebow are going to get Denver to 6 wins this year, so they should just go with Tebow. Bingo. Rumors have it that the Bears really never offered much. That $4m was way off. The Bears DID offer 4 million to Kreutz, Angelo said so himself in the press conference. Those rumors are incorrect. He stated that they WERE apart by $500k but it went beyond the money. For Kreutz to turn around and take less from NO is a little odd. In other news, it appears as though Kelvin Hayden will sign with the Raiders. The Bears are still interested in Tatupu. I wouldn't mind either of those guys. I don't trust Tim Jennings. I like Zach Bowman a lot more.

The Bears Family Night practice has been canceled because of poor field conditions. Pathetic. An absolute joke.

24 oz Milwaukee's Best Ice (5.9%) = BEAST MODE

QUOTE (lostfan @ Aug 2, 2011 -> 09:30 PM) Webb, actually, doesn't suck. I mean yeah he did to start the year, but he was very raw. He was a big-time high school recruit and went to Texas but lost his academic eligibility, so he transferred to a small school and didn't face D-1 competition so never got refined. Now he has proper coaching. He really started to improve as last year went on and started to find himself. The tools and pedigree are there (I think it's his cousin, his cousin is Richmond Webb, who was an All-Pro lineman for the Dolphins). So yeah, he was drafted in the 7th round, but we're not talking about a scrub. We're talking about a guy who needed some time, some conditioning, and some quality coaching. So if I had to guess, I'd say the line to start the season will be Webb-Williams-Spencer-Garza-Carimi. That's actually not bad, and is better than last year. The difference here is that most of the guys are young, athletic, BIG, and on the right side of 30. Everyone likes to hate Chris Williams because he hasn't amounted to s*** as a tackle, but he's not bad as a guard. He's a big guy, and really MOVES. It wasn't a coincidence that all of a sudden the Bears started running the ball after the bye week last year. That was when Williams moved to the inside and Garza came back from surgery. Everybody kind of retroactively credits this to Lovie, or whoever, sitting Martz down and saying "run the ball" but this is an overly simplistic way of looking at it... before that Forte was getting like 1.5 yards a carry, and all of a sudden it skyrockets to about 4.5 yards a carry or something. Because he was getting holes and it started working. Not because Martz said "ok, I'll just keep running these s***ty plays for no gain" QUOTE (lostfan @ Aug 2, 2011 -> 09:36 PM) Oh also last year the Bears had a bunch of midget track star WRs who could come up with big plays but were pretty useless in the red zone when the field shrank. Greg Olsen was pretty much the only viable red zone option for 2 seasons, and also they couldn't score on 1st and goal from the 1 (but yeah Kreutz was sooo valuable!). Now they have a bigger, meaner line, even if they haven't proved a damn thing yet, and they have Williams, Davis, and Spaeth as red zone options with the bruiser Barber to spell Forte... that should improve the red zone efficiency quite a bit. Absolutely spot on with both these posts.

The Bears need to be checking in on the price for Asante Samuels. And it also seems that the Giants would take a 2nd for Osi Umenyiora. I'd be all over that.

Yes Bears, go get Lofa Tatupu!

I can't wait to see Lance Louis and Edwin Williams anchoring the line.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 29, 2011 -> 04:53 PM) Bears targeting Vernan Gholston He'd probably be cheap and pairing him with Marinelli surely couldn't hurt. I'm also a big proponent of going after Amobi Okoye. He didn't fit in the Texans 3-4 scheme but I think he'd be a hell of an addition for us. Idonije-Okoye-Adams-Peppers with Wootton, Paea, Toeaina, Melton, and Harrison.

Sean Jensen reporting the Bears are expected to sign Roy Williams.

QUOTE (MuckFinnesota @ Jul 29, 2011 -> 12:11 AM) Why did the Bears seem so uninterested in maintaining Manning? He seems like a pretty big loss as he really added something to the return game. But I am not sure if he was all that great on defense - they must really like Major Wright if they want to put him in right away. The safety tandem is better with Wright at FS and Harris at SS than it was with Manning at SS and Harris at FS. Sure, they'll lose an elite return man, but that hasn't been problem area for the Bears since Glyn Milburn. With Hester and Knox, they'll be just fine.

QUOTE (GoodAsGould @ Jul 28, 2011 -> 11:33 PM) Lovie is always saying that a good chunk of the time we aren't even running the cover 2 defense, it's just the perception people get. Whether they run the cover 2 or lot or not, the CB's are in zone coverage most of the time. That's what matters.

QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Jul 28, 2011 -> 11:15 PM) What's our cap figure at? Thought we had a bunch to spend and they clearly don't give a s*** about the offense so why not try to to have the best D in the league. The Bears are about $35 mil under the cap. You don't want to spend half of that on 1 guy with so many other holes to fill. Even further, in a Cover 2 defense, the CB's play a lot of zone coverage. You wouldn't be utilizing Asomugha properly unless he's playing man coverage.

More importantly, it seems the Phils and Stros are getting closer on a deal for Pence.

QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Jul 28, 2011 -> 11:03 PM) So I admit to know very little on this...but why can't the Bears get Asomugha and just have an insane defense since the offense will suck again? Because he's going to be getting $$$ in the upper teens.

MikeSimsWalker MIKE SIMS-WALKER I must say these #bears fans are going hard on my time line...... #luv

QUOTE (The '05 Sound @ Jul 28, 2011 -> 10:04 PM) Is someone reporting that? Because that would be pretty cool with me. I would prefer Floyd first, but I'm really not going to be picky its just good to hear they are thinking about adding at WR Reports earlier today that the Bears reached out to Williams, and tonight there were reports they contacted Sims-Walker. Haven't heard anything about them talking to Floyd, but it's been reported they have interest. Floyd is 6'5 and has speed to burn on deep routes. He'd be a perfect fit.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Jul 28, 2011 -> 10:10 PM) It really sounds like any of the three could be signed. if I had to guess, I'd say Sims-Walker is the guy. Although Williams obviously worked with Martz in Detroit. Sims-Walker is apparently looking for a 1 year deal to prove he's healthy and show his real worth, which would be great for the Bears. I'd really be fine with any of the 3. Floyd would be my primary option though. Then Sims-Walker, then Williams.

QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Jul 28, 2011 -> 09:56 PM) If I'm a GM I'm looking to trade every draft pick I have other than my 1st rounder every year for veteran players who've at least shown they are capable of playing at an NFL level. How many 3rd rounders next season do you really think will be as good as Greg Olsen? I'm guessing around 5, maybe 1 other guy who winds up being some super awesome find by a lucky front office and is actually better. The value of NFL draft picks is absolutely insane. They're all free tickets to whatever player you could possibly want. I actually agree with you here. I always found it interesting you could get such great players in the NFL for so "cheap" with draft picks.

So the Bears have reached out to Roy Williams, and now to Mike Sims-Walker. I fully expect one of these two or Malcolm Floyd on the Bears in the next 48 hours.

QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Jul 28, 2011 -> 09:51 PM) Except when the Bears are trash this year because they wont get half as lucky as they did last season, a bunch of assistants get fired and the Lovie/Jerry regime is back on the hotseat we'll look back to July 28th 2011 and ask "Why did we get rid of a good TE when all we got was a 3rd rounder spent on a slow white guy who projects at best to special teams in the NFL?". Angelo, Martz and Lovie all know their fates are intertwined; and if it means gutting the team of good talent to save each other's ass they'll do it. The Bears are due for a stretch of legendarily bad football when our best defenders all get old and contracts of the guys who still produce are nearing their end. Tell us how you really feel.

Yes RT @jim_reedy: @CSNChi_Beatnik Was that why it wasn't Jackson-for-Rasmus, because St. Louis wouldn't take Teahen's contract? YIKES. Teahen. I dislike you greatly right now.

QUOTE (Wanne @ Jul 28, 2011 -> 09:20 PM) I would too. But if he's a piece that prevents the Sox from having to pick up such a huge chunk of Rios salary... If the Sox could get off paying around $18M of the remaining on Rios that would be golden. But again....hate to see Escobar go. We have Ramirez and Beckham in the middle infield. You give him up if it means we can rid ourselves of Rios and his contract.

Ballantini brings up a valid point though. This is Trader Kenny we're talking about here. We're 3 games out of 1st place at the trade deadline. Think about it.

QUOTE (Real @ Jul 28, 2011 -> 09:29 PM) We're not adding payroll, this csn guy is just speculating He's in tune with what the team is doing. He follows them around for a living.