2nd_city_saint787

QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Dec 7, 2012 -> 12:34 AM) Just filled out 'dream job' application with UPS for their flight department HQ in Louisville, KY. Wish I knew someone there to help me out. Oh well crossing fingers. Good luck man! Way to follow your dream.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Dec 7, 2012 -> 01:13 AM) It seems he has the dream and the passion for cooking but isn't willing to simply get a job as a chef to learn the ropes and mingle with experienced people to make some contacts and learn how George's Giros might make it under his direction. Second city, what's the hurry? You need a job and if you can cook, you can get a job I'd think at any of many places. Then you can learn the ins and outs of the food preparation business. One man running George's Gyros and ordering all the ingredients and doing all the cleaning of the stoves and floors and bathrooms and making sure everything is refrigerated and fresh and making sure your customers are satisfied ... it seems you'd need at least five people. No many can work every day of the calendar year cooking and taking care of all those duties. And you even said you'd like to take orders from the hospital. Let's say some family visiting their dad at the hospital takes you up on it and you get 10 orders from one large family via phone. Just taking the orders via phone, making the orders during lunch hour (with other people wanting to be served) and getting all that done in a reasonable amount of time is a daunting task. The hospital is so close, what if one day you get 25 orders at lunch time and that day you happen to have five customers waiting in line wanting food. You need at least a handful of people to have a shot at not having a heart attack the first month. It seems to me you want a business to be run on your own terms. Enough customers to make a living, but not too many customers for one man to handle. Can you imagine the hassles of not having enough beef one day whereas you can only serve chicken? I despise going to restaurants when they are out of certain things. I think you could run the place as a one-man operation if you got 5 orders from the hospital per day, five customers during lunch hour, five customers during dinner hour. Would 15 orders a day be enough to pay the rent? What do you do if you get 100 orders one day and 2 the next? Ive said this countless times... The hurry is there's a location I want 5 seconds from my house. I wouldn't need no 5 people at this location, George had 1 employee who was rarely there and she looked like a crack head, I don't think she was doing much of anything except cooking. It's a small hole in the wall in a bad location, I'd love to have the problem of being over worked because business is poppin. Like I've said in the past, I wanna run a food truck, but this restaurant would be pretty much the same thing with the small crews. I wanna be in the spotlight, I love people, I love talking to people, I don't wanna be cooped up on a line somewhere. I'd rather do security work over that and just save up the money for a food truck that way.

Nawww Steves right. I remember because I was somewhat on your side but not nearly as extreme. Can't wait to see that Derrick Rose guy come back, it's been pretty bleepin ugly. I was one of the guys tootin Kirk's horn and my goodness have I been wrong. I want him no where near the starting 2 guard position when Derrick comes back. Yes he can probably be as good as Bogans, and yes the Bulls we're able to overcome that deficiency at SG, but I'd much rather have Bellinelli/Rip as our 2 guards. Furthermore I'd rather have Nate as the backup PG....what a waste of $$ Gimme Rose/Robinson/Kirk Rip/Bellinelli/Kirk Deng/Butler Boozer/Taj Noah/Naz

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 6, 2012 -> 09:30 PM) Is his contract insurable? That's my biggest Q; you can't spend $30 mil a year on him then have him miss a whole season, either because of injury or other. It'd be wiped out if he fails a drug test. He won't just get a suspension, he'll be gone forever so you don't have to worry about having him on the books for the next season and beyond. Only thing that would happen if he gets busted for drugs is the Sox would probably have a wasted season. Injuries might be an issue but 120+ games of Josh Hamilton is better than no superstar for 0 games. I believe he's worth the risk.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Dec 6, 2012 -> 03:37 AM) where is hammond, ind? Is it south of chicago or ?? Let's us know what they want for the store/lot property. Where would you order the ingredients from? As farmteam said I'm There's a farmers market about 5 minutes away that I'd get most of my stuff from, though I believe its closed during the winter so that's something I'd have to look into. There's also a bakery right down the street where I'd like to get my buns and possibly Hawaiian rolls from. The chicken, beef, and pork is something I'd also have to look into. As for everyone who has given me constructive criticism, don't think that because I have a rebuttal for it all that I don't really appreciate it because I do. Wite that was some solid advice esp. coming from someone who had looked into the same thing. The thing right now is that I wanna run this specific location since it's so close to me. As you can tell from the picture this isn't some upscale place. As far as being sick goes, my immune system is awesome, I can't remember the last time I was sick. If I didn't start ditching class in high school I would have had perfect attendance from head start-high school. Now I know it's bound to happen someday and if it does hopefully my partner, if I every find one, would be able to handle it all while I'm out.

Here she is. http://www.loopnet.com/Listing/15014571/55...Ave-Hammond-IN/ Now you guys can see what I mean by it being a small little place....Place has been open for 75 years.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 5, 2012 -> 10:24 PM) Come on now, you have to be willing to pay your dues. Who is going to give money to a guy to open a restaurant that has never done anything except cook frozen food at a bowling alley. I am not saying you couldn't do it, but unless there was a very wealthy family member around, it is going to be difficult for you to convince someone to invest their money in such a proposition. Now, if you were to start cooking at a small place, due that for a few years, save up some money to perhaps get some culinary training, then move on to a job in a better restaurant, move up the totem pole there, go start as a chef at an established place, start putting that money aside, etc., etc...this is how people end up opening their own restaurants. I think in the course of the last 6 months to a year, I have seen you go from security guard to Beachbody coach to sitting around at your friend's place freeloading weed, and now you are going to open your own restaurant with no money and no training. You need to find something you enjoy and are good at, that has some sort of marketability to it, and start and the bottom and work your way up. Very seldom are things just handed out to anyone other than the very wealthy. And it doesn't sound like you are very wealthy. I know a lot of people have tried to give you supportive messages in this thread, but you've got to put the work in and stick with it for awhile if you want to make it happen. This has just came up now because the location is 5 houses away and would be so convenient. I'm aware its just a pipe dream at the moment without the funds. It's just gotten blown up because I'm very passionate about it. I know I make delicious food, from my dinner parties back in the day to cooking for my family and I love to do it. I feel like my menu idea that I posted earlier is a pretty solid plan. This has all gotten overblown but I will continue to respond, and continue to believe that given the funds I would be successful. I'm pretty friggin stubborn when it comes to this. As far as the real world goes I'm still looking for a security job. Thats what I enjoy and what I'm good at. I love the respect it brings and I love communicating with others. This restaurant thing would give me the same kinda respect and communication I'm after being the only or 1 of 2 guys there....This would be the same reason I've said I wanna run a food truck.

QUOTE (Jake @ Dec 6, 2012 -> 12:03 AM) Please no Headley And why not?

QUOTE (greg775 @ Dec 5, 2012 -> 12:55 AM) Then make it happen. Find an investor on facebook before they tear the existing building down. How much money are you looking at? Just 30,000? Lol just 30k like thats not a big deal. I gave the number they have on the door a call with no answer, left them a message. Finding the money probably won't happen but I'm interested in seeing how much it's going for.

I guess i should probably get ESPN insider, I think this about the 3rd time I've asked what was said on there. Article they got up now says "The White Sox could hit the trade route soon." and tags Floyd and Beckham. Wonder if there's anything worth noting in there.

QUOTE (almagest @ Dec 5, 2012 -> 06:52 PM) Keppinger is an .864 OPS player against LHP, .680 against RHP. Pretty clearly a platoon player. Hannahan would be an ideal platoon partner if he didn't suck so badly against both. Would've been nice to sign Chavez as well, but hopefully we can find a lefty 3B who can hit righties decently - any candidates out there? .755 against RHP last year with a .305 BA.

QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Dec 5, 2012 -> 05:33 PM) Since we're throwing names out there, any hitter that's LH ? Josh Hamilton Jason Kubel Logan Morrison

QUOTE (chw42 @ Dec 5, 2012 -> 02:20 PM) He was pretty good during those 50 games though. All he needs to be is average defensively. If he puts up his career offensive #s, he'll be an average 3B, which is very well worth the $4 million we're paying him. He's not an ideal #2, but he's a much better fit for that spot right now than anyone else we have. I like the deal. If he puts up the numbers he did last year he most certainly is. High obp/good contact, a little more speed would be nice but I think he's a good fit. Speaking of where he's gonna hit, Madden hit him in every spot but leading off. ABs Batting #2 13 Batting #3 11 Batting #4 77 Batting #5 124 Batting #6 105 Batting #7 47 Batting #8 6 Batting #9 2 Joe Madden is one crazy SoB.

I can dig it, he handles the bat well and would look good in the 2 hole. Would have liked a LH bat but looking at his splits, at least from last year, he's able to hit both RH and LH pitching.

So it's looking like it will be difficult to find a LH hitting 3B and outside of an AJ return it looks like this lineup might have a grand total of 2 LH hitters, and the both hit high in the lineup. Does that happen a lot?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 4, 2012 -> 01:23 PM) Some NYpost thing --Carl “American Idle” Pavano has changed agents once again, going from Tom O’Connell to Dave Pepe, who represents Pavano’s former Twins teammate Joe Nathan. He’s coming off an injury-plagued 2012 season and turns 37 in January, but he’d be a good low-risk pickup for someone. Possible fits? I say Miami, where he helped the 2003 Marlins get a World Series title, and the White Sox, whose pitching coach Don Cooper is one of the best. This got lost in whatever was being discussed. Pavano+Coop+Herm could = a good pickup. If it means we get a good piece for Floyd.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Dec 4, 2012 -> 02:46 PM) Agreed. It sounds like you want to please people with your food. So do it. Be a cook. A chef. Get a job at a place like this, even a Subway to start. You said you don't need much money to be happy. You seem like one of those friendly but not annoying guys that serve you at a sandwich shop. Exactly. Great advice. Exactly. Great advice. True. Even a tiny diner ... you get a few different customers making orders and it's going to take a while. People don't have time to wait. I get irritated just waiting in line at Subway. I won't wait. I'll go eat somewhere else if there's too long a wait. Why not just keep cooking at the bowling alley or somewhere like that? I'd assume with cooking skills you'll be able to find a job. It almost sounds to me like you are an Andy Griffith fan and want to run some kind of old-town friendly diner where u cook great food and converse with the people. One guy can't do all that unless it's an unsuccessful place and hardly anybody comes in. Since George's is available, either be aggressive in trying to find somebody to go in with you, or just take it slow and go get a job as a cook somewhere. Even the tiniest of operations will have headaches. You gotta get those delicious toppings you described and keep them fresh. You have to keep the bathrooms pristine. You have to pass health inspections. Your food is not gonna taste so good if those tomatoes and lettuce aren't the freshest of fresh. Who's gonna do all that? Most Sundays after church I go get the cheap, yet delicious bacon cheese burger and fries deal with a friend or two at a local bar. A mom and pop bar. The bartender like you is a decent enough cook. He puts it on the grill in front of us and cooks the fries in front of us has time to chat it up with us as we watch football. Sounds like that's the kind of chef you want to be. But he has other bartenders taking orders and serving beer and cokes and helping him out. Any food/drink operation is too tall for one person. My whole thing with this place is I wanna be the one running it, I don't wanna be cooped up on a line making food getting little to no respect. Stardust Bowl in Hammond closed down, I was there when they did. I cooked for a PBA event one year (Pete Weber loves Jalepeno poppers) and that's probably gonna be way more business than George's will ever get. The lines are the least of my worries, I'm a pretty composed fellow. And for the other bold line, sadly that's kinda what it is. It's located on state line where you see a lot of prostitutes and such so a lot of people get scared away by the area. Though if what Tuna said in the gang thread awhile back is true then it's actually not a bad street because they gangs don't wanna "make the block hot". With that in mind if I can do what I said about offering free delivery to the hospital and police station then I can get a lot of business that way.

QUOTE (Iwritecode @ Dec 4, 2012 -> 12:48 PM) 18 sounds small but I don't think that's much smaller than the dining room of an average fast-food joint. I don't know how the place is set up but I'm imagining a counter where you order and pay for the food and then a handful of tables in the dining area. If you do any kind of decent business at all, even getting half that amount of people just standing in line at the counter could be over-whelming for just one person depending on how large your menu is. 3 tables with 4 seats on each and then the counter has 6 stools. It's pretty bad location, I admit that, so I can't imagine it ever being tooooo packed but if it is being so close to the customer allows me to grab their order while cooking. My food plan has always been fairly simple, a choice menu. Offer your choice of chicken, pork, or beef. Then what do you want it on, sandwich, tortillas, sliders, or "naked"...possibly a chilli option as well Then what do you want on it, offer up some toppings. and then what kind of sauce, offer up a few different sauces. Simple yet complex menu.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 4, 2012 -> 08:30 AM) I'm sure the O's would love him... The problem is how do we match up with them? Chris Davis has played close to 300 games at 3B...and he's a LH bat. I'd give up Floyd and a couple decent minor league prospects for him.

I hope it's Bellineli that gets the start with Rip out so he can try to get in a bit of a rhythm....I can see the backcourt being Nate and Hinrich though. Yuck.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 4, 2012 -> 11:32 AM) Yeah, I understand...I have always been in the minority with him...but do you really think Granderson is going to be anywhere near the same player without that short porch to launch to for 81 games? His HR splits from the last 2 years are 46/37 Home/Away, 2011 it was 21/20. The short porch didn't matter that much and the Cell isn't exactly a large ballpark. EDIT Kyyle already beat me. I'd swap the 2 in a heartbeat, even if the production is similar you still balance out the lineup by adding a LH bat.

Rode a 3 game winning streak that saw me go from last place to 5th. Woulda been on a 4 game win streak and in 4th had yahoo not screwed up that one week. Still really need Gronk to come back to do anything in the playoffs. I'm thinkin about releasing Big Ben, he may not be back this week and then he faces Dallas and Cincy in the final 2 weeks. Should I pick up Shaub who's facing the Pats or Freeman who's facing Philly. Or should I just stick with Stafford against the Pack.

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Dec 4, 2012 -> 09:04 AM) When you're talking about "George's Gyros", are you talking about the place on Halsted in Bridgeport or is this some other George's? Naw this is in Hammond by St Margrets Hospital. Now that I think about the hospital, thats another market I'd like to hit that wasn't utilized (as far as I know). Thinking about it, having 2 people working would be a plus because I'd offer delivery to the hospital. The area is pretty bad so the people from the hospital probably don't wanna walk the block down State Line to get there so by offering up free delivery that gives them incentive to order from us....The Police station is also 3 blocks away and I can offer the same thing.....Perhaps both at a discount. I'm putting way too much thought into something thats not gonna happen but it's fun to think about.

That was his best pipe bomb since THE pipe bomb. This is pretty good television.

I'm "kicking the tires" on facebook to see if anyone with a business/accounting background would be interested in going balls deep into this ish...Its probably not gonna happen but itd be pretty awesome if it did.