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QUOTE(Al Lopez @ May 30, 2007 -> 10:29 AM) Gotta tell you, I've never seen ROOGY before. I know what it means, but you never see it. Kudos to you just for that. lol what would you call jeff nelson in the later days of his career?

Hanley Cabrera Sizemore Mauer Hamels

QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ May 30, 2007 -> 03:16 AM) Those responsible for selecting a player should be those representing our club. I'd rather have Duane Shaffer place himself in front of the cameras. Atleast have some accountability. +1

QUOTE(thedoctor @ May 30, 2007 -> 06:15 AM) dude, that was way more than two cents. so it is

QUOTE(hitlesswonder @ May 29, 2007 -> 11:19 PM) Anyway, for the Sox the truth of the matter is that they are on a collision with the Royals to battle for 4th place for the next 5 years unless something unlikely happens to turn things around (e.g. fantastic deadline trades of Buehrle & Garland that bring in a bunch of talent). I'm sure that sounds overly pessimistic, but the minor league system is so utterly devoid of talent that you're looking at a 4 or 5 year wait for an impact player to be brought up from the minors because they would have to be drafted this year. The rebuilding process could be accelerated by keeping the payroll high and getting a decent free agent or 2, but I doubt the payroll stays high when attendance drops. no offense but i totally disagree with this statement. we've got some interesting pieces coming up thorough our system. Gio, Egbert, Russel, Masset, Floyd if he gets it together and De Los Santos is a ways away, then there is Haeger, Broadway & McCulloch As far as position prospects we've got Fields, Sweeney, Anderson, Carter, and Cunningham. Carter is showing big time power and an exceptional eye, he looks to be the heir apparent to 1B. We also have a good mix of interesting BP arms; all is not lost for sox fans. This Team needs an influx of youth and speed to go along with the station to station baseball we've bore witness to for so long. The Kids need to play. If i we're KW these are the moves i would make this offseason provided we let mark, iguchi and dye walk. Trade AJP and Uribe to the Blue Jays for OF Travis Snider & RHP Graham Godfrey. Their current SS is Royce Clayton and Zaun is on the DL and the decline. Snider is a very young OF with a ton of potential and tools unfortunately they Jays already have a stacked OF(Lind/Wells/Rios) That gives the sox an additional 10.5 to play with to go along with the 10mil they cleared when they traded Garcia. Trade Jose along with Anderson and possibly Mmac if he gets his ERA down to something respectable or another BP arm(Sans Jenks, Thornton, Aardsma, Masset) for C Jarrod Saltalamacchia and SS Yunel Escobar. Salty is blocked by McCann and his value lies behind the dish, not to say his bat couldn't carry him to 1B, and Escobar is among the throngs of SS the braves have at both the ML and Milb level (Renteria/Andrus/Lillibridge/Fontaine). Jose is old, but he is still putting up good numbers and at times dominates, i think a change to the NL would only further that at 10mil a year he's a steal for the next two years, Kyle Davies hasn't lived up to expectations and they're still paying Hampton to sit on the DL. Both Brandon Jones and Matt Harrison won't be ready for another season and a half. Andruw Jones is going to become a FA and they'll need a CF who can cover ground like him and still has some power potential; enter BA i think he needs a change of scenery and consistent ML ABs. Mmac is a constant injury risk but when he is healthy and on hes a great setup man/closer. I just don't see us getting an All star caliber back stop that is great defensively calls a good game and knows how to hit with out giving up a bit. Trade Joe Crede to one of the following teams The Giants or Angels for one of the following 4 players: From the Giants 2B Kevin Frandsen or 2B Marcus Sanders; From the Angels MI Erik Aybar or MI Sean Rodriguez. The Angels have Kendrik and Cabrera at SS & 2B respectively, and the Giants have Durham for 1 more season and the other 2B who doesn't get traded. Try and get anything you can for Scott Podsednik & Alex Cintron, if not non tender. Sign one of the following FA CF. Ichiro (5/90) Jones (8/$138M) Hunter(6/85) Rowand(6/85) Fukudome(3/8-10) With the money saved from making the moves stated above along with letting Mark, Dye & Iguchi walk the sox should easily be able to afford a marquee CFer. Along with all those moves i would extend Jon to a 5 year deal (5/58?), jon gives us 200 innings has been incredibly durable and an ERA+ of 110 over the past 3 years on average and takes some preasure off the up and coming arms. Also give Terrero enough rope for this season to either build a bridge into 08 or hang himself. So now i present my version of the '08 white sox LF - Erstad L SS - Escobar R DH - Thome L 1B - Konerko R CF - Jones R C - Saltallamachia S 3B - Fields R RF - Sweeney L 2B - Aybar S Erstad is merely a place holder unless we sign Ichiro in which case i would keep him as a bench player/all around good guy. With having acquired Snider and Cunningham developing we still need someone to fill in one of the 3 OF spots. SP Garland Vazquez Danks Masset Gio/Egbert/Broadway/Floyd/Haeger BP Jenks Aardsma Thornton Logan(LOOGY) Wassermann(ROOGY) Russel/Perez/Vasquez/Reynoso/Sisco/Day Bench Hall Mackowiak Gonzalez Terrero Ozuna?? There is alot of question marks up and down the roster i would be the first to admit it, but if we expect to contend in 2-3 years you have to role the dice, the team to be is going to be Cleveland for what appears to be a long time. The tigers are getting old like us around the diamond but they've got alot of good young pitching, and the twins are weird place after this coming season. the royals still need alot of pitching. anyways just my .02

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ May 29, 2007 -> 09:55 PM) Crede is hitting like an overwhelmed AAA hitter these days and has a bad back. That doesnt scream, give me your best prospect. agreed, but it does scream give me one of your many MI maybe Erick Aybar or Sean Rodriguez?

wow, thats a f***ing out.

ill take it

Come on PK Deliver.

Can I have my status changed from Starter to, Left Handed Throwing SS or just LH Throwing SS? thanks

pablowned

JI > shift

lets go danks.

QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ May 20, 2007 -> 03:28 PM) Not really. You put Hall in and he's at D, and let's say he'd stranded the runners, singles are triples and it's a different game. -- Great job AJ Pierzynski. Toby kills LHP and that was his first start of the season hes going to have some rust. AJP has been better against lhp this season but still toby was brought here to help our club against lhp. Ozzie got lucky, much like a good chunk of '05. Nice job AJP.

still the wrong f***ing call to let him hit.

where the f*** is TOBY? god ozzie out classed again.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ May 19, 2007 -> 10:20 PM) Sad thing was I read it online in the morning. Ozzie should read the paper instead of listening to North.

simply awesome, we should've moved him to the rox before they got smart and traded for willy.

uribe isn't a FA next season he has a 5mil/500K option/buy out.

agreed i really have a hard time seeing what the angels are going to do with the following. Figgins Willits Aybar Figgins is doing horrid at the plate and seems to be on the decline since last year. Willits is awesome, but they already have a leadoff hitter in Matthews and Anderson and Rivera who will be back in the near future. Aybar is a light hitting, good fielding MI that can draw a walk. but is just a place holder until Kendrick gets back. Finally wood is going to need this season and some of next to fix some of the holes in his swing and game.

bye gardy!

ryan sweeney

sign me up!

no thanks, all though as i stated in previous posts i still think the giants then phillies make the most sense for Crede. I'd be all about getting Jonathan Sanchez and one of their promising up and coming 2B either Marcus Sanders or Kevin Frandsen.

you have to cash them in, god damnit.