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QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Apr 28, 2015 -> 12:46 PM) Exchanging tickets would be a complete disaster. The box office just can't take that kind of volume. Unless no one showed up, I guess, which would be possible. They'd have to find a way to scan the existing tickets in, IMO. Which would be simple if both parks use the same ticketing vendor (i.e. TicketMaster/Archtics), but virtually impossible if they didn't, unless there would be some way to utilize existing hardware/infrastructure. Just use the tickets previously sold like you would a rainout to a game that won't be made up, and sell GA to the games.
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Here's Manfred's quote yesterday: "All I want to say about that is we are looking at every possible alternative in terms of completing the schedule in a timely way and making sure the games are played in a security situation that is safe for the fans," he said Monday night. "We are going to look at every alternative at this point." I guess doing nothing is what they decided.
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QUOTE (shipps @ Apr 28, 2015 -> 12:36 PM) Of course that is part of it but I still think people are poo pooing the idea that there is a whole lot that goes into moving a baseball game on the fly. But under the circumstances, a 40 mile trip is not that far and the particulars should be able to be worked out. Or, a decision to go back to Chicago and play the games should have been made after yesterday's postponments. They are acting slower than the Mayor of Baltimore.
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QUOTE (Tex @ Apr 28, 2015 -> 11:36 AM) Just thinking about tickets. If you have tickets for Section 201 Row D Seats 15 and 16 and those seats do not exist in the other park, or are substantially different, where do people sit? Do you exchange tickets at the gate? How long would that process take? It seems like it would take more than a day for logistics. Parking, etc etc. You give all ticketholders credit for their tickets and re-sell tickets on line and at the park. It would be a very limited crowd. It wasn't that long ago where people had to go to the box office to get tickets.
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QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Apr 28, 2015 -> 11:04 AM) You're all over the place here. Why is it bad to call kids throwing rocks/bricks at cops and setting things on fire thugs? Where has anyone, me specifically, said that everyone in baltimore is a thug? Clearly we're all talking about specific people here. I agree. And people who steal things from stores, burn buildings and cars and throw rocks and bricks at policemen and firefighers are, by definition, criminals.
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I know the Nats/Orioles relationship isn't the best, but sometimes you have to play with the enemy. I know it's not easy getting staffing together and tickets are a problem, but really, just give all the Oriole ticketholders a credit and give away cheap seats to anyone who makes the trek to DC. It wouldn't be well attended, so you could get by with a skeleton crew. If I'm Hahn, I tell MLB either move it somewhere else or postpone game 3. No reason the White Sox should have to spend another night in that situation.
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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 28, 2015 -> 10:22 AM) Two different groups. The mall situation began at 3 p.m. And the guy on the scene said the average age was 16 or 17, he wasn't at the mall.
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QUOTE (PlaySumFnJurny @ Apr 28, 2015 -> 10:01 AM) Respectfully, I completely disagree. There is absolutely no reason for it to be played, and doing so sends no "message" whatsoever. This is not FDR preserving the American way of life on the homefront during WWII. This itself is a war zone. I think the game should be played. Just not in Baltimore. They have a viable alternative 40 miles away.
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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 28, 2015 -> 10:15 AM) Those were all the high schoolers near the mall responding to the online "purge" invitation/s. Nothing specifically to do with the police brutality situation at all. This was actually before they went to the mall. This was when they were showing the liquor stores, the cell phone store and the CVS being ransacked.
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QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Apr 28, 2015 -> 10:10 AM) but its the ones that don't get there, like your case, that just build up tensions but never get addressed. I bet the chief or a supervisor knew about it, or cases before yours. Yes, there has to be a 'want to' from management, but you have to start somewhere. On CNN last night they had someone on who said the average age of the looters was 16 or 17. Were they really looting because they all had built up tensions, or where they just taking advantage of the situation? I think the majority of people destroying businesses and starting fires, and throwing rocks and bricks at cops and firefighters weren't present during the peaceful protests.
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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 28, 2015 -> 09:06 AM) Yes. The LAPD had to significantly reform after 1991. We're watching right now as the Ferguson police department has the DOJ light shined on them and people are resigning/being forced out, and the practice of fining the community as a way of funding the city seems like it's also on the way out with it, and those are just a couple recent ones. So this wouldn't have been possible without the fires and the looting? How is that neighborhood in LA these days?
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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 28, 2015 -> 09:04 AM) This is a statement by Oriole's COO John Angelos made over the weekend after they had the first issue at the ballpark. Where is Orioles swag made? I'd love to know where their giveaways are made as well.
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I think the vast majority of the rioters had nothing to do with the peaceful protests. I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of them barely knew why the protests were occurring. Just some punks who decided to take advantage of the situation, and now, despite all the "free" stuff they stole yesterday, will be paying for their actions for years. Unfortunately, the people who were going about this the civil way will be paying for this as well, and there is no doubt these actions like setting buildings on fire, destroying businesses, throwing bricks at police, will hurt the overall cause. Has rioting ever worked?
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QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Apr 28, 2015 -> 07:40 AM) This isnt a genius observation or anything, but you can usually tell within a few shots that Dunleavy is going to be worthwhile or worthless on the court. Last night right off the bat you could tell he wasnt going to be on the stat sheet There are a lot of players like that.
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QUOTE (ewokpelts @ Apr 28, 2015 -> 07:43 AM) There will be no blankets left. I'm willing to put money on it. Especially after the sox started letting people come in and out for multiple SGA items. I showed up 5 minutes before the game last year and got a Tony LaRussa bobblehead. They had so many left over, they gave some away this past Sunday for checking in with the MLB Ballpark app. But I do agree, free sells. I really don't know what I would do with a Jose Abreu blanket. Ebay seems nice. I did sell the gumball machine championship ring they gave away in 2006 on ebay for $300. I thought when they received it, they would be pissed, but the lady contacted me and told me she was so happy. When I was a kid, I went to a game with my dad on umbrella night. Sure enough, it did rain.
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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 28, 2015 -> 08:01 AM) So how exactly is using Gavin Floyd as one counterexample (and Ptac would tear it apart because the original problem was the screws inserted and the bone/muscle tearing apart, not TJ or ligament replacement surgery) supposed to prove anything? Many are arguing that Josh Hamilton for Danks would be a very good deal for the Sox, and, looking at his stats from 2012 on...there's very little to indicate that would be a good risk performance-wise, not to mention the likelihood of another relapse. By the time Homer Bailey is ready to pitch, and no one knows how effectively, the obligation to John Danks will be close to $0.00, if not $0.00. PTAC would not tear my example apart. He would tear apart the notion that TJ surgery has a 100% success rate, and that everyone comes back just as good as before. Danks for Bailey would be a horrific trade for the White Sox.
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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 28, 2015 -> 07:31 AM) You do when he's a fifth starter who is overpaid and underproductive. It's very simple....that $26 million will go a long ways in fixing the problem of Danks' early departure. And our fifth starter would/could be Noesi, it doesn't have to be Danks. Heck, it could be Erik Johnson, Beck or Frankie Montas, too. Finally, after all these articles about TJ surgery since last year....you really believe that Homer Bailey's going to be out TWO FULL SEASONS? When has that ever happened in the last 10-15 years? Why would teams take Hoffman, Fedde, Matuella, Kirby and Aiken so high? TJ surgery worked out real well for Gavin Floyd. You can't believe the money the Sox owe Danks, yet want to add $55 million on top of it for a guy who won't even pitch for at least a year.
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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 28, 2015 -> 07:28 AM) And how many of those starts were made by pitchers (with higher ERA's and WHIPs) earning $13 million or more per season? If you were Rick Hahn and you threw that statistic at John Mozeliak and asked what he was willing to offer for Mr. Danks, his response STILL would be how much would you still like to pay for him to pitch for the Cardinals? At any rate, we'll find out exactly how he's perceived around the league in the weeks to come. In all likelihood, guys like Pat Maholm, Aaron Harang, Kyle Lohse or Matt Garza will come into play first. And I would be perfectly content to use Erik Johnson or Montas for the 6-8 starts to bridge us to the end of the season. We are already at 3-4 starts....that gives Rodon something like 18-22, which is quite reasonable. Who cares how much money he is making? IT DOESN'T COME OUT OF YOUR BANK ACCOUNT. The White Sox have a plan for Rodon. And as much as some here think Danks is only in the rotation based on his contract, doesn't it seem a little weird the guy who gets skipped is Noesi? The fact is the starting depth for the White Sox is thin, dumping Danks to save money, and thinning it out even more, makes no sense.
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QUOTE (Brian @ Apr 28, 2015 -> 07:15 AM) I don't even think defense is the problem. They've given up 92 and 94 in their two losses. The offense is a mess with the turnovers. How many jump passes in traffic should we throw? How many times can we get stripped dribbling in the lane or trying to split double teams? Yes. At one point DRose and Butler were a combined 10-40 from the field. That's pretty hard to overcome.
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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 28, 2015 -> 07:19 AM) Yes, I know. That's the only way this trade makes SOME sense for both teams. The White Sox don't absolutely need Danks to compete, whereas the Reds definitely need another starting pitcher. The White Sox do need John Danks or another pitcher. Again, Rodon cannot enter the rotation now and be there at the end of the season. You have to figure some other pitcher will be missing starts, so who do you have? Beck? Please. Montas? Get ready for a walkathon. Johnson? Perhaps, but we also know that could be real bad. As bad as Danks supposedly is, there were over 600 starts made last season by pitchers who had higher ERAs. And at the very least, he is a Royals killer.
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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 27, 2015 -> 06:19 PM) They've got to plan on Nationals Park unless they're willing to lose all 3 games. National Guard called in so it's likely to get worse before it gets better. I agree. Zero reason to think tomorrow will be better.
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I'll show you. I am going to loot and burn down the stores in my neighborhood. I understand the more than likely is a huge problem with the police department, but these thugs aren't the ones who were protesting, they just are the ones taking advantage of the situation and in the long run, when thisr potato chips from CVS are gone, and the bottle of booze from the liquor store they stole are long gone, with these businesses closed, they lose jobs and have no stores to get their things. Idiots.
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4/27: Sox Vs Os - POSTPONED DUE TO RIOTS
Dick Allen replied to Buehrle>Wood's topic in 2015 Season in Review
QUOTE (shipps @ Apr 27, 2015 -> 05:17 PM) I am assuming since they closed the gates that they are cancelling the game then? I think it would be easier to play with a limited crowd. -
4/27: Sox Vs Os - POSTPONED DUE TO RIOTS
Dick Allen replied to Buehrle>Wood's topic in 2015 Season in Review
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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 27, 2015 -> 04:48 PM) The fact he is still with the team. Now you. ARod showed he could contribute in spring training and wasn't the huge distraction many thought he would be.
