Dick Allen

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 29, 2014 -> 10:09 AM) Rock/Bucket, etc. Did anyone hear of the White Sox looking at the 2nd tier of FA starters (Tim Hudson, Kazmir, Phil Hughes, Feldman, Haren, Josh Johnson) in a serious way? Nolasco was discussed a bit, I know...at least around here. I read the Sox were definitely talking to Josh Johnson. Dodged a bullet there.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ May 29, 2014 -> 09:52 AM) I just listened to Jason Parks say this is a "very deep draft" on a podcast last night. Does that make you think they should do it again? The scout I read was quoted as saying the draft was stronger than last year, but not that great and high school heavy. Maybe Jason Parks is correct and the Sox will get a star with the second round pick and I will be the biggest fool ever to walk the face of the earth. I thought they should surrender the second round pick. Signing those players in the future will cost a 1st rounder which was one of the reasons I have stated for getting it done then.

QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ May 29, 2014 -> 09:42 AM) We would have also had to give up the #44 pick in what is seen as a very deep draft The draft isn't supposed to be all that strong, and is high school heavy. I got in trouble for pointing out taking a HS kid in the second round, chances are he won't be able to help you , if at all, until 2019 or 2020. The Sox compensation for signing a QO free agent, wasn't going to be much lower ever. To get one next offseason, they probably will have to give up a first round pick. They gave up a first rounder for Dunn.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ May 29, 2014 -> 09:25 AM) Paulino, Noesi, Carroll = bad and free and expendable any day. Ubaldo = bad and so expensive that he affects a team's ability to spend going forward. And locked in for multiple years. "Not exactly vomit-inducing and has put together a few really nice starts" is not good enough for the productive end of a 4 yr/$50m contract. How are we still arguing about this? Quintana and Sale are the only Sox starters with a lower xFIP than Jimenez this season. That doesn't sound like ruining the team's ability to compete.

Belly's problem is he did give up a couple of hits in a one run game and has been pretty shaky since assuming the closer's role. Last night, Dunn's throw did hurt, and if it was executed correctly, Belly more than likely would have recorded the save. Belli's ERA in the 9th inning is 9.82 in 8 appearances.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 29, 2014 -> 09:08 AM) At this point last year I'm pretty sure I hadn't heard Tanaka's name once. There was a lot of talk about him. I'm sure you had heard of him, but probably dismissed it because at least at that point, there appeared zero chance the Sox would even bid. If you were a Yankee fan, you probably would have heard of him.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ May 29, 2014 -> 08:33 AM) Are you referring to his significantly worse-than-average 4.22 FIP? Or his slightly less, but still worse-than-average 3.97 xFIP? Is it the worse-than-average 1.82 K/BB? The reliever-esque 4.50 BB/9? Is it his declining K rate? Or that he's averaging 5.6 innings per start? Oh, it must be the 2 MPH drop in his average fastball velocity. Honestly, Dick Allen, I can't even squint and find a reason to argue he isn't having a bad season. I'm sure you'll find some way to continue arguing, though. What are Paulino's, Noesi's and Carroll's numbers? You said Ubaldo, and it was a troll to continue an argument I am sure, would hurt the White Sox chances of competing. Yet guys doing worse have pitched and the White Sox have competed. I also believe moving forward, Jimenez will pitch better. But he hasn't exactly been vomit-inducing like was mentioned some other time before. And he put together a few really nice starts.

QUOTE (Jake @ May 28, 2014 -> 08:44 PM) PK's back is "locked up" per Ventura. Has not been available to play defense for awhile He hurt it about a week back.

Tank runs like the potbellied salesman at a company softball game.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ May 28, 2014 -> 09:01 PM) Noesi will not lose at least I hope you didn't jinx him.

Tie

QUOTE (Brian @ May 28, 2014 -> 08:47 PM) Gene Hinda has the offense, where ever he is. He is at the Hawks game.

Konerko has a stiff back.

QUOTE (Bigsoxhurt35 @ May 28, 2014 -> 07:44 PM) I personally could care less. I enjoy the game of baseball even though at times it's slow. It's baseball I like to relax and enjoy it I don't mind a long game if the pace is alright, but the amount of time between pitches is getting crazy.

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ May 28, 2014 -> 07:41 PM) Noesi works wayyyy too slow It is a problem throughout the league. There was some game the other day where a 1-2-3 inning took 22 minutes.

QUOTE (Baron @ May 28, 2014 -> 07:28 PM) The fact that Noesi is still making starts is astonishing to me If someone told you before the season Paulino and Johnson would be as bad as they were, Noesi would be getting starts. Scott Carroll would be getting starts. Sale would be on the DL. Abreu and Eaton would be DLd, would anyone really think this team would be anywhere near .500?

Sierra reminds me of a pre steroid Sammy Sosa.

That non error on Beckham in KC turned into an error. He went to the official scorekeeper and told him he should have made the play.

Wow.

QUOTE (flavum @ May 28, 2014 -> 06:56 PM) No runs in the first inning. That's not much to ask for. Small steps. Just 1 or 2 runs would be an improvement. Maybe they should have him throw an extra 30 warm up pitches. He seems to be really good after the first.

QUOTE (Baron @ May 28, 2014 -> 06:53 PM) The Royals once again got blasted Perpetual rebuilding sucks. Shields bolts, Ventura's elbow becomes a problem and they are bad another 5 or 6 years

Magic, MJ, Durant, KG and Hakeem and I have $1 left for my bench

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ May 28, 2014 -> 04:46 PM) It's Rick Hahn. If he misses more than he hits, he'll be fired. Put the pitchfork away and save it for situations that will actually affect our ability to compete. Like if we had signed Ubaldo or something. I see what you did there. I am absolutely shocked the moderators will let that slide. It is kind of funny the saber boys are ignoring his advanced numbers. His FIP xFIP and WAR don't suggest in the least he would hurt the Sox chances of competing. Why are you ignoring those numbers?

I just wonder what the final bill would have been if Chicago got the 2016 games. People were upset. I think we dodged a bullet.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 28, 2014 -> 02:59 PM) So like I said, there were obviously questions, or else his contract would have been much bigger. He was a slam dunk if there ever was one for the White Sox considering their lack of prospects and aging 1B/DH guys. Normally teams don't hand out $68 million contracts, the biggest in team history, to guys they don't feel are sure things. And I was talking about Paddy's impact on the signing, which IMO was limited at best. He joined the team in December 2011. The Sox knew about Abreu well before then. And even KW pointed out the bidding was all JR.