Dick Allen

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jun 4, 2013 -> 10:16 PM) I don't get your hate for Jordan Danks. You rip him every chance you get, sometimes when he isn't even the topic of conversation. I'll admit his defense has been overrated by the organization, but he had a total of 85 major league ABs coming into tonight's game. I'm not sure how anyone could really write him off yet one way or the other. Plenty of guys suck when they first get called up. He's put up pretty damn good numbers at Charlotte the last two years, yet you ignore these stats and claim he's only here because his brother. I don't see why he doesn't warrant a look as a fourth outfielder. Don't be impressed by soon to be 27 year old's numbers in Charlotte. I've never claimed he is here because of his brother. In fact most of the time he has been here his brother has not. I have just said Wise is the better player. Wise is hurt, so that is moot right now.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 4, 2013 -> 10:09 PM) So much for DA's argument about Omogrosso, lol... Home run fest for the Mariners. Lowest point for the franchise since 2001, 2007, 2011 (last 2-3 months of the season)...1994? 1980's? Don't you give him slack for having to come in and work from the stretch?

I just hope it isn't related to his previous surgery.

I can see them put him on first but not second.

There is something wrong. Hopefully he is just sick, and it isn't something structural.

I didn't think the Sox would score 2 tonight.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 4, 2013 -> 09:45 PM) A lot of scouts had doubts that Danks would hit enough to be a MLB starter. I think he has already surpassed most projections. He was available as a rule 5 I think last year or the year before and no one bit. He could be a spare OF, but he is going to have to shorten his swing. It's way too long to really have much success playing sporatically, and if he is a regular on your team, chances are you are not comtending.

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Jun 4, 2013 -> 09:37 PM) Who is the one that wanted Danks up so bad? Jordan Danks is the White Sox version of Moses Moreno with the Bears. They were very popular until they actually played.

I can't believe the Sox were dumb enough to sign DWise when they had Jordan Danks around. He's a stud.

QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ Jun 4, 2013 -> 07:22 PM) Is Gimenez hurt? Tomorrow is a day game. He will be in there. Peavy likes throwing to Flowers, although Gimenez caught a nice game with Jake on the mound a couple of starts ago.

Is Ryan Braun one of the dumbest people in America?

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 4, 2013 -> 07:39 PM) It would be STUPID for the Sox to pass on him, if he got to them on a waiver claim. Jones or Omogrosso could be sent down, and Santiago should really be starting for Charlotte anyway. Cooper would at least have a chance to work with him one-on-one and see what he could accomplish. This is where I disagree. If there is a simple fix, like there was with Thornton, then I'm sure the Sox would try to trade for him. If there is no simple or reasonable fix, he is a guy who throws 100 that sucks. There have been far more pitchers Cooper couldn't fix than he could fix. For their careers he allows 3 less baserunners per 50 innings than Omogrosso. I also think Rizzo would probably prefer moving him to an AL team just in case someone found something, although I wouldn't hold my breath.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 4, 2013 -> 07:27 PM) "You give up on these guys too quick and they turn out to be Joel Hanrahan on you," D.C. GM Mike Rizzo told 106.7 the FAN in D.C.'s Holden Kushner last summer, "and it makes you look pretty bad." When Henry Rodriguez struggled this Spring, Washington Nationals' manager Davey Johnson explained to reporters why he hadn't yet given up on the hard-throwing, control-challenged 26-year-old right-hander who had to either make the Nats' Opening Day roster this year or pass through waivers if the defending NL East Champs wanted to send him down to one of their affiliates. "If he's healthy, he's got three off-the-chart big league pitches," Johnson said. The Nationals' manager also joked about how Rodriguez's velocity was coming back even if the command wasn't quite there as he recovered from the elbow surgery which ended his 2012 campaign prematurely. "He's throwing 98 [mph], it just ain't going over," Johnson said. That has always been the problem with Rodriguez off course. A plus fastball, plus slider and command that comes and goes. Bat shattering and knee buckling at times, with a devastating change as well. 5.99 BB/9 in his career and 8.00 BB/9 in 18.0 IP in 2013 after tonight's game in Atlanta. federalbaseball.com I wouldn't be shocked if the team that picks him up tries to make him a starter in the minors...just to see if that helps him get his control and feel for pitching back. If any team wants to send him to the minors he will have to clear waivers. The choice, if you claim him or trade for him, is to have him on the roster and see if he can get some semblance of command or try to get him through waivers yourself. It seems to be a new trend. Guys getting dfa'd 3,4 times a year.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jun 4, 2013 -> 07:17 PM) Omogrosso gives up homers and doubles, strikes out less batters, more hits per 9. Like I said, you dont like him because he is wild. Thats fine, It doesnt make a difference to me, I like HRs arm better. But it probably doesnt matter anyways, I highly doubt he gets to the Sox Why would he have to get to the Sox? They could trade for him.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 4, 2013 -> 07:13 PM) Omogrosso had devastating stuff before his injuries. Every GM in baseball is going to take Rodriguez's "potential" over Brian's lowered ceiling. Didn't Rodriquez have elbow surgery? His k rate is down. Guys making near the minimum who are 26 years old who throw 100 and have a ton of potential generally don't get DFA'd. But if is that coveted some team will give up something for him. He can be traded.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jun 4, 2013 -> 07:09 PM) He is a lot better than Omogrosso. I am not a fan of Omogrosso at all Not if you actually look at the numbers. Omogrosso gives up doubles. This guy walks you and then wild pitches you to second.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jun 4, 2013 -> 06:57 PM) Again, where is anyone in this thread saying "drop Thornton and/or jones and pick this guy up!"? You obviously don't like him because he has control issues. That is fair, I understand that. But you are creating an imaginary argument and defending guys that aren't being attacked Who would you drop? He really is no better than Omogrosso.

Over their careers, Rodriquez's WHIP in .068 lower than Omogrosso's. as bad as Omogrosso has been, that is only 3.4 more runners he allows in 50 innings.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jun 4, 2013 -> 06:38 PM) I could care less if he wants or doesn't want HR. it's the complaining about the board, it is unnecessary What has he shown performance wise that is any better than the guys the Sox currently have who all work with Cooper everyday who get beatdown all the time? Iam sticking up for guys like Thornton and Jones. The are just as good or better than Rodriquez. This guy couldn't throw a strike before elbow surgery, and Flowers catching him would make Tyler and the M & Ms guy sick of each others company in a few weeks.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jun 4, 2013 -> 06:18 PM) Ok DA, as always you are always grumpy. I mean right. Its just a double standard. Nate Jones supposedly doesn't belong in the majors. If he were a Brewer and was DFAd, there would be threads wanting to pick him up.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jun 4, 2013 -> 06:14 PM) He is a righthander, so it isn't like anyone is clamoring for him to replace Thornton. He is considerably younger and cheaper, and throws very hard. If coop thought he could work with him and get a flaw fixed, I certainly wouldn't mind. Its more reason not to like him. In a world where everyone is looking for bullpen help, getting DFA,d is pretty telling.

It is funny a board who hates Matt Thornton would want this guy. He allows way more runners and runs.

QUOTE (flavum @ Jun 4, 2013 -> 03:28 PM) Sox 177-188 (-11) Cubs 210-202 (+8) Cubs 190-202 (-12)

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jun 4, 2013 -> 03:56 PM) So completely inaccurate. But keep throwing garbage at the wall and hope no one calls you out on it. Says the guy who was completely innaccurate and throwimg garbage at a wall hoping no one calls him out on it. You may want to go back and check. The post above was wrong. The Sox were -11. The Cubs were -12. Meathead.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jun 4, 2013 -> 03:02 PM) And their run differential suggests they've been very unlucky. They are a much better team than the White Sox. Coming into that series, their run differential and the Sox run differential were about the same. I think the Sox may have been a run or 2 better.