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It will be interesting to see if Ozzie takes all he said back. Apparently he's admired Fidel for a while and said basically the same thing he said here in 2008. http://www.suntimes.com/11806414-417/telan...ro-in-2008.html
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QUOTE (flippedoutpunk @ Apr 9, 2012 -> 06:42 PM) .....and then hopefully throw tons of money and brazilian dancers at Tony La Russa and hope he bites! They have the best place to hang if they get ejected at home than any other team in the league.Rogers had one of the better columns about the situation. http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseb...0,6047893.story What I don't understand is the apology. Was Ozzie only kidding when he said he loved, then said he respected Castro? He doesn't now because a lot of people have a different view and he's in trouble or is he sorry people don't agree with him? I thought Ozzie didn't care what people think, he tells you how he feels. Phony and dumb, that's Ozzie.
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If Ozzie can't apologize enough and Cowley and Oney aren't spouting off on twitter, you know its pretty serious. I really believe the Marlins may whack him if his apology doesn't go well and they can figure out a way not to have to pay him the balance of his contract. Actually Cowley is tweeting this is no big deal that they should slap him with a phantom fine, pretend they are mad at him and let it blow over.
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QUOTE (flippedoutpunk @ Apr 9, 2012 -> 03:42 PM) Its crazy that the posters on soxtalk are making a bigger deal about this than posters on marlinsbaseball.com. Read Ken Rosenthal, read Jon Heyman, read Jayson Stark...all of them are talking about Ozzie's comments as perhaps the dumbest comments ever to come out of a manager's mouth. As for the "freedom of speech" argument a lot of people say gives Ozzie the right to say what he wants. It does. He won't go to jail for saying such stupid things, but anyone saying stupid things at their place of employment or anywhere is subject to the consequences.For instance,racists don't call black co workers names they may call them at home while at work if they want to continue to be employed. Ozzie is going back to Miami so the Marlins can prep him on how to apologize. They won't fire him this time, but anything close to this again, especially if this doesn't blow over very quickly, Ozzie will be out of a job and will have a near impossible time finding another one in MLB. It will be a very predictable ending.
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QUOTE (flippedoutpunk @ Apr 9, 2012 -> 12:30 PM) Im not defending ozzie because he is a fool for making those statements but for what its worth Vigilia Mambisa is comprised of mostly elder Cubans that actually fled Cuba during those nasty years. Not necessarily the demographic that purchases tickets to baseball games featuring topless women. Just about every Cuban and non Cuban who believes in human rights should be offended by Ozzie's comments. BTW, he'll never work for Fox again. It took a lot less for Psycho Lyons to be shown the door. He's also set himself up to be, when he loses this job, pretty much PNG for all major league teams. At least with this, people will see the truth. All the BS about Ozzie being bright should be a thing of the past. He won't get fired over this, but he won't last his contract, and he'll never manage another major league team. No one will touch him. Loria only hired him for drawing power, not baseball acumen. Once that is out the window or another major crisis or 2, Ozzie, he gone. Oney, he'll be looking for a job.
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Wow, it only took 3 games and some are already calling for the clown's head. http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/break...0,6384867.story
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QUOTE (chw42 @ Apr 7, 2012 -> 10:13 PM) I don't know how any sensible person can take Ozzie seriously. I'm sure his "I love Fidel" comment even with the Marlins apology and his retraction, will keep some people away from the ballpark as long as he's involved. I just wonder what's next. I'm sure KW is laughing his ass off. If KW said the same thing, Cowley would call it a fireable offense. With Ozzie, its just cute Ozzie being Ozzie, its what makes him so great. I think this ridiculous comment probably cuts the incidents it will take to get him fired down drastically.
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QUOTE (Reddy @ Apr 7, 2012 -> 09:34 PM) a-mazing. Ozzie likes dictators until someone tells him its not good to like them. He used to like Chavez as well. He's a total fool. How does a guy trying to attract Cubans to come watch his team play say anything nice about Fidel Castro? He's the idiot of the year. Guillen caused another stir late last September when he was introduced as the Marlins' new manager, saying he did not support the president of his native land, Hugo Chavez of Venezuela. "Don't tell my wife that, because she hates that man. She hates him to death," Guillen said. "I supported Chavez? If I was supporting Chavez, do you think I would be manager of the Marlins? I never supported Chavez." But reports eventually emerged that Guillen had twice appeared on the Venezuelan leader's national radio show in October 2005, right after the then-Guillen managed White Sox had won the World Series. "Not too many people like the president. I do. My mom will kill me, but it's an honor to talk to the president," Guillen said at the time.
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QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Apr 7, 2012 -> 09:44 PM) So.....you were saying? The other thing that's laughable about his post was Ozzie was always ranked at or right near the top of the list of managers who used their bullpen the least.
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Nathan gave up a lot of longballs in a huge park last year. I expect that trend to continue now that he's moved to a bandbox.
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All the soxtalk managers lifting Rios for a PH need to be fired.
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QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 7, 2012 -> 09:31 PM) But do the Sox believe that? If they didn't, they wouldn't have given him the contract they gave him.
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QUOTE (Soxfest @ Apr 7, 2012 -> 09:30 PM) He does not handle pressure well at all. BS.
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The Official Thread for Joe Cowley and his Agenda.
Dick Allen replied to Jack Parkman's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (mcgrad70 @ Apr 7, 2012 -> 08:35 PM) Me either. Sox fans just have a hard time dealing with certain realities. They are content to having a second rate organization in no worse than the third largest baseball market in the known universe. I'm not. And I don't want to hear about 2005. A bunch of marginal players had career years and they won. They have one hall of fame candidate from that team - and he didn't even play in the series. They haven't come anywhere to being that good since. Where I come from that's one-hit wonder. So between Michael Jordan whom he inherited (and b****ed about paying) and 2005, Reinsdorf is the greatest thing since sliced bread. Once Cowley puts at least some blame on Ozzie and admit Oney acted like the spoiled doucebag he is, maybe I take some of what he says seriously. Its obvious he has a vendetta and thats not how professional journalists operarate. -
Where would this team made of former Sox farmhands end up?
Dick Allen replied to caulfield12's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 5, 2012 -> 02:33 PM) The only decent part of that team is the starting rotation. The rest of it is awful. As a group they'd be fighting with Houston for the first pick in the draft. Without a doubt. -
QUOTE (chw42 @ Apr 6, 2012 -> 06:10 PM) He's always been good on opening day. He was also good on opening day last year (the entire lineup was). So yeah, I guess that means we're not out of the blue yet in terms of the possibility that Adam Dunn straight up sucks. Maybe he does, but I'm at least encouraged. How he hit after opening day last year would make you think he might not be capable of doing what he did yesterday, especially when a lot of his teammates looked like fools at the plate. Its one game, you can't call him "back", but I could say with confidence now, which i didn't have until yesterday, if he's bad, he won't be nearly as bad as he was last year.
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The Official Thread for Joe Cowley and his Agenda.
Dick Allen replied to Jack Parkman's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 7, 2012 -> 06:31 AM) “And by no means is this a knock against [former manager] Ozzie [Guillen], [bench coach] Joey [Cora], [pitcher Mark] Buehrle, anybody, but it was an energetic dugout, a positive dugout with positive players. On the field, in the dugout, a lot of energy, playing until the last out. We simply got beat [Friday]. If we can maintain this over the summer, this should be a good, fun summer.’’ Then Danks added, “No excuses.’’ There it is. Forget “Appreciate the Game.’’ Sox baseball 2012 is about “No excuses.’’ No fingers to point, no distractions to blame, no Twitter accounts to “unfollow.’’ This is about the talent collected by general manager Ken Williams the last few seasons and if it is good enough to sprint with the best of the American League. By September, expect the answer to be a big, glaring no. Still too many free swingers, still not enough clutch hitters and still too many bobbled balls at the most inopportune times. Sox players will learn that they can escape blaming others, but they can’t escape the talent that stares back at them in the mirror. It’s a .500 ship with an iceberg awaiting it in Motown. Or maybe that’s just Prince Fielder taking a dip. “I wouldn’t make any predictions on, ‘Hey, if we’re going to do our thing, we’re going to measure up or make the playoffs,’ ” Paul Konerko said. “If we go out and do things the right way, with our talent, we’re going to be in the mix. Where that takes us, I don’t know, but we’re going to be there later in the season if we compete correctly and everyone is going about it the right way. I just don’t think it will be right to say anything more than that. “There are a lot of good teams out there, and you have to respect what they have done and what they have.’’ What the Sox had in the loss to the Rangers were seven men left on base and 13 strikeouts. They also had a new poster child for days gone wrong in third baseman Brent Morel. A bobbled ball that led to a run, an error and four strikeouts. That’s what happens when a team is forced to jam a bottom-of-the-order talent into the No. 2 hole. But again, that’s just an excuse. The Sox are all out of those. Today's Cowley column Does anyone notice that anytime anyone in the media or White Sox employee gives a complement to Ventura or his coaching staff, they always have to preface their comments with "This isn't a knock at Ozzie", why is everyone so scared? I guess Cowley feels he can write a White Sox column everytime they lose, which even in the best of years gives him 63 days of not having to actually work. The last Sun Times "writer" that basically wrote a White Sox obituary after one game, and he actually did it after a win, was Marriotti in 2005. I wonder when Cowley's bosses will demand something other than this repackaged KW slam. Joe, I don't like KW either, but enough is enough. Your recycled columns aren't going to run him out of town. -
QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Apr 6, 2012 -> 05:00 PM) Well yea they may indeed continue to suck, but Lewis was dealing in that giant zone. That had to be tough on any young player. I give Morel a pass more than Beckham. Beckham's been around quite a bit now; time to figure it out dude. Really? Morel was swinging at pitches way out of the zone. Beckham was taking pitches that were obvious balls called strikes. He was called out on a pitch 5 inches inside and a pitch 5 inches outside.
