Dick Allen

Its still the toughest Sox ticket to get even at jacked up prices. Its in the Sox best interest to keep the home and home.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Apr 30, 2012 -> 11:59 PM) I honestly never thought that Greg Walker was a bad hitting coach, but by the end of his tenure, his methodology and sermons were obviously not getting through to the hitters. I was tired of him and I did want him gone, and so did others within the organization. The team looks a lot better this year, and I think Greg Walker being gone is part of the reason. A lot of times, players just need to hear it from someone new to have it click for them again. Stats would indicate the offense hasn't improved. Even Rios had a better Sept 2011 than Apr 2012.

What they are doing is psuedo hiding him on their website. He's not listed where they show today's columns but obviously continues to write. I would think this means he isn't being disciplined.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 1, 2012 -> 08:15 AM) It's going to be extremely tough to keep this thread in the PHT section. Probably at some point, it might need to be bifurcated from the point at which the Twitter scandal/suspension started and that half broken off and lodged at SLAM. Simply a feeling these "free speech vs. workplace harassment/discrimination" discussions are going to get pretty heated. Cowley's boss could use his/her free speech,wouldn't be funny if his boss was a female, and say you're fired. Even if they wound up paying him every last dime he has on a contract if he has a contract I doubt its a huge amount of money.

Hopefully we won't have a gameday boredom thread this year.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Apr 30, 2012 -> 06:24 PM) I don't feel bad for that Mickey guy either. He even admits he did stupid s*** as a 22 year old. He insulted Cowley from a ST computer even. He should have used the "satire" defense.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Apr 30, 2012 -> 06:06 PM) The guy got himself fired for stupidly trashing a columnist at the newspaper he works for. I'll agree the kid went way over the line and deserved what he got, just like Joe did yesterday. He deserves the same fate. The ST is on life support. Any advertisers pulling out is a big deal. I'm starting to think this is the major subject regarding Joe's future employment. If enough advertising dollars won't do business with the ST with Cowley.............he gone. They have grounds. My wife is a labor/employment lawyer who represents management. Maybe I'll ask her about it tonight.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Apr 30, 2012 -> 04:54 PM) It's too bad that you can get fired for writing what Cowley wrote. He didn't do anything illegal and people with his views have the right to a job they are qualified for. The workplace would be insane if you could just say whatever came to your mind. He's smart enough to know where the line is, Ozzie just got in trouble a baseball player just got fined for a tweet, he just has such an inflated opinion of himself and his (lack of ) talent, he crossed it. Did he even apologize? And if its satire, are his columns satire as well?

QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Apr 30, 2012 -> 04:36 PM) I'm half hispanic. Shall I just assume 1) my relatives are sexists 2) culturally they were never told not to be? Either you're assuming Latin America is unenlightened, and that everyone mistreats women, or you're making some more subtle point that I'm missing. I'll tell you what, my relatives in Beverly (on the other side of my family) are definitely the ones I catch saying drunk racist/sexist things at parties. Not the hispanic half of my family. If they said it in the workplace, they would have consequences. You can go over to a girl at a bar and say something offensive to her. She may slap you or throw a drink on you or walk away. You say the same thing to a colleague at work, you could wind up unemployed. Sex, age, religion....these are some of the things you can't pop off about in the workplace. If someone is offended, you're in trouble. Sure, Cowley's done it before and the Sun Times, at least from what we can tell, didn't act, but maybe no one complained. Once there is a compliant, they are obligated to investigate. I'm sure they have a policy in place, and I would guess termination is one of the possible consequences.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Apr 30, 2012 -> 03:28 PM) And the company wants him to tweet apparently, which he does. All this should accomplish is some HR person now having to write out a 20 page unreadable edict on what a person can and can't say on twitter when representing the company. Seriously, attorneys out there, will Joe have a case if he sues the Sun Times after his firing? He can say he was doing his job. A columnist by nature has OPINIONS and humor. Some people get it; some don't but he was just doing his job (he can say). I'm asking all of your to go into each tweet and tell me what was so bad about any of them but the final one. And the final one gets u fired?? Cmon. It wasn't that bad to cost him a high paying job. Legally the issue may be if they do nothing and fire someone else for saying or doing something similar in the future or maybe even in the past, they are probably looking at a lawsuit, not to mention the lawsuits they may be looking at from co workers who were offended by his words and aren't comforable working there anymore.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Apr 30, 2012 -> 03:26 PM) I'm trying to make a point about America. Yes most businesses would be concerned about s*** like this I guess. My point is ... WTF? Joe is a columnist. He tweets, which the newspaper obviously wants him to do. His personality apparently is that of being a prick. He takes it to his twitter account. Aside from blasting that woman in the final tweet, which is TOO personal to do to a stranger, what did he do wrong aside from being a BAD STANDUP COMIC? He's not a stand up comic, he's a columnist. There is a line he cannot cross. He crossed it.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Apr 30, 2012 -> 03:08 PM) 1.) What do you mean hostile work environment? He was on a plane working. 2.) Yes but what I'm saying is he didn't tweet anything that would cause his firing or suspension. Calling flite attendants ugly and calling out the pilot for being a woman? He's a f***ing sportswriter. They travel ... a lot. They can fight back and call him an ugly motherf***er. It goes both ways. They have to treat him the same way the would treat a guy who works in the mailroom who said the same thing in the middle of the Sun Times office. Joe may have done himself in. Go figure.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Apr 30, 2012 -> 03:02 PM) If Cowley is suspended that is stupid. He's a f***ing sportswriter. Sportswriter's travel a lot and have opinions. People who dissent can call him out and put their opinion on twitter as well. He calls flite attendants ugly? Big f***ing deal. They can come back and say passengers who sleep with their mouths open like sportswriters are uglier. He rips the female flight attendant? Why can't somebody just come back and call him sexist and make their point? Why should he be fired for bad humor??? If he threatens somebody's life and MEANS IT ... fine. he did notthing really wrong but represent himself like a sexist jerk. Those he offended can blast back, but fire him??? Grow up world. Hostile work environment.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 30, 2012 -> 02:57 PM) should we know who that is? No, but with Joe's view about women, considering he's married to the guy's daughter, it would be interesting to get his take.

I wonder what Joe's father in law thinks of his tweets.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 30, 2012 -> 02:33 PM) Wow. I am shocked. Suspension I could believe. Firing? Wow. They might not have a choice. I'm sure their HR dept. has been talking to a Labor attorney. Giving Joe special treatment could cost them a lot of money.

QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Apr 30, 2012 -> 12:24 PM) Sun Times may be thrilled right now that people are actually busy caring about the Sun Times. It won't translate into more subscriptions and it may scare off an advertiser or 2. There is such a thing as bad publicity

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Apr 30, 2012 -> 10:43 AM) Right, they absolutely hate that Cowley is breaking national news and the words Chicago Sun-Times are out there. This won't affect him one iota. The Twitter account will be back up in a week. Women who work at the ST might disagree with you and if you really think this will increase their subscription level I totally disagree. He is in trouble. Maybe not fired like he deserves but there will be something.u

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 30, 2012 -> 08:55 AM) Probably closer to $10 million if he's moved at the deadline, you're right, $12 million would be moved mid-July. He gets $17 million this year, which translates to about $3 million a month. Then, there's a $4 million buyout paid by whichever team he's on at the end of the season when they decide not to pick up his option. Pick him up end of July, and you're paying him $10-$12 million, give or take the exact day. $750k a start is a reasonable estimate. No matter what the Sox will have to eat money and get a fake prospcect or two in return unless maybe they take a halfway decent player back making a decent amount of money.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Apr 29, 2012 -> 05:26 PM) When it comes to writing about the Sox, Cowley is rock solid. All the other stuff, I do not give one damn about. He was rock solid or at least solid with most things White Sox, but that stopped when he he became Ozzie's PR director. The problem is he had all the other stuff going on. He thinks he's a comedian. He's a buffoon and he just proved it beyond a reasonable doubt.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Apr 29, 2012 -> 05:21 PM) I didn't say it was a good act. You give these idiots enough rope, they eventually hang themselves.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Apr 29, 2012 -> 05:16 PM) I can't believe so many people don't recognize that it's an act. Well, the "act" might have just cost him his career. If it is an act, Joe may have realized it too late, "bra". They have links to his twitter on the Suntimes website. For some reason I really doubt his bosses appreciate the "act" he had today.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Apr 2, 2012 -> 11:13 AM) 11-11 Another genius. Too bad you don't seem to be as good at Powerball. This is the winner though, wite had .500 but there could have been mulitple rainouts. Hickory got the record right on.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Mar 25, 2012 -> 07:55 PM) They will go .500. (but wite, there are an odd amount of games) I SAY THEY GO .500 Genius. I'd keep my eye on this boy.

Oney is sticking up for Cowley saying he doesn't understand why people get worked up about words. Pot. Kettle. Black. Unless Joe can prove he didn't tweet these, he's in a lot of trouble. Maybe find a new line of work trouble. Joe's showing why some people are better off staying in their mom's basement.