Dick Allen

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Apr 30, 2012 -> 06:06 PM) The guy got himself fired for stupidly trashing a columnist at the newspaper he works for. I'll agree the kid went way over the line and deserved what he got, just like Joe did yesterday. He deserves the same fate. The ST is on life support. Any advertisers pulling out is a big deal. I'm starting to think this is the major subject regarding Joe's future employment. If enough advertising dollars won't do business with the ST with Cowley.............he gone. They have grounds. My wife is a labor/employment lawyer who represents management. Maybe I'll ask her about it tonight.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Apr 30, 2012 -> 04:54 PM) It's too bad that you can get fired for writing what Cowley wrote. He didn't do anything illegal and people with his views have the right to a job they are qualified for. The workplace would be insane if you could just say whatever came to your mind. He's smart enough to know where the line is, Ozzie just got in trouble a baseball player just got fined for a tweet, he just has such an inflated opinion of himself and his (lack of ) talent, he crossed it. Did he even apologize? And if its satire, are his columns satire as well?

QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Apr 30, 2012 -> 04:36 PM) I'm half hispanic. Shall I just assume 1) my relatives are sexists 2) culturally they were never told not to be? Either you're assuming Latin America is unenlightened, and that everyone mistreats women, or you're making some more subtle point that I'm missing. I'll tell you what, my relatives in Beverly (on the other side of my family) are definitely the ones I catch saying drunk racist/sexist things at parties. Not the hispanic half of my family. If they said it in the workplace, they would have consequences. You can go over to a girl at a bar and say something offensive to her. She may slap you or throw a drink on you or walk away. You say the same thing to a colleague at work, you could wind up unemployed. Sex, age, religion....these are some of the things you can't pop off about in the workplace. If someone is offended, you're in trouble. Sure, Cowley's done it before and the Sun Times, at least from what we can tell, didn't act, but maybe no one complained. Once there is a compliant, they are obligated to investigate. I'm sure they have a policy in place, and I would guess termination is one of the possible consequences.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Apr 30, 2012 -> 03:28 PM) And the company wants him to tweet apparently, which he does. All this should accomplish is some HR person now having to write out a 20 page unreadable edict on what a person can and can't say on twitter when representing the company. Seriously, attorneys out there, will Joe have a case if he sues the Sun Times after his firing? He can say he was doing his job. A columnist by nature has OPINIONS and humor. Some people get it; some don't but he was just doing his job (he can say). I'm asking all of your to go into each tweet and tell me what was so bad about any of them but the final one. And the final one gets u fired?? Cmon. It wasn't that bad to cost him a high paying job. Legally the issue may be if they do nothing and fire someone else for saying or doing something similar in the future or maybe even in the past, they are probably looking at a lawsuit, not to mention the lawsuits they may be looking at from co workers who were offended by his words and aren't comforable working there anymore.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Apr 30, 2012 -> 03:26 PM) I'm trying to make a point about America. Yes most businesses would be concerned about s*** like this I guess. My point is ... WTF? Joe is a columnist. He tweets, which the newspaper obviously wants him to do. His personality apparently is that of being a prick. He takes it to his twitter account. Aside from blasting that woman in the final tweet, which is TOO personal to do to a stranger, what did he do wrong aside from being a BAD STANDUP COMIC? He's not a stand up comic, he's a columnist. There is a line he cannot cross. He crossed it.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Apr 30, 2012 -> 03:08 PM) 1.) What do you mean hostile work environment? He was on a plane working. 2.) Yes but what I'm saying is he didn't tweet anything that would cause his firing or suspension. Calling flite attendants ugly and calling out the pilot for being a woman? He's a f***ing sportswriter. They travel ... a lot. They can fight back and call him an ugly motherf***er. It goes both ways. They have to treat him the same way the would treat a guy who works in the mailroom who said the same thing in the middle of the Sun Times office. Joe may have done himself in. Go figure.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Apr 30, 2012 -> 03:02 PM) If Cowley is suspended that is stupid. He's a f***ing sportswriter. Sportswriter's travel a lot and have opinions. People who dissent can call him out and put their opinion on twitter as well. He calls flite attendants ugly? Big f***ing deal. They can come back and say passengers who sleep with their mouths open like sportswriters are uglier. He rips the female flight attendant? Why can't somebody just come back and call him sexist and make their point? Why should he be fired for bad humor??? If he threatens somebody's life and MEANS IT ... fine. he did notthing really wrong but represent himself like a sexist jerk. Those he offended can blast back, but fire him??? Grow up world. Hostile work environment.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 30, 2012 -> 02:57 PM) should we know who that is? No, but with Joe's view about women, considering he's married to the guy's daughter, it would be interesting to get his take.

I wonder what Joe's father in law thinks of his tweets.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 30, 2012 -> 02:33 PM) Wow. I am shocked. Suspension I could believe. Firing? Wow. They might not have a choice. I'm sure their HR dept. has been talking to a Labor attorney. Giving Joe special treatment could cost them a lot of money.

QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Apr 30, 2012 -> 12:24 PM) Sun Times may be thrilled right now that people are actually busy caring about the Sun Times. It won't translate into more subscriptions and it may scare off an advertiser or 2. There is such a thing as bad publicity

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Apr 30, 2012 -> 10:43 AM) Right, they absolutely hate that Cowley is breaking national news and the words Chicago Sun-Times are out there. This won't affect him one iota. The Twitter account will be back up in a week. Women who work at the ST might disagree with you and if you really think this will increase their subscription level I totally disagree. He is in trouble. Maybe not fired like he deserves but there will be something.u

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 30, 2012 -> 08:55 AM) Probably closer to $10 million if he's moved at the deadline, you're right, $12 million would be moved mid-July. He gets $17 million this year, which translates to about $3 million a month. Then, there's a $4 million buyout paid by whichever team he's on at the end of the season when they decide not to pick up his option. Pick him up end of July, and you're paying him $10-$12 million, give or take the exact day. $750k a start is a reasonable estimate. No matter what the Sox will have to eat money and get a fake prospcect or two in return unless maybe they take a halfway decent player back making a decent amount of money.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Apr 29, 2012 -> 05:26 PM) When it comes to writing about the Sox, Cowley is rock solid. All the other stuff, I do not give one damn about. He was rock solid or at least solid with most things White Sox, but that stopped when he he became Ozzie's PR director. The problem is he had all the other stuff going on. He thinks he's a comedian. He's a buffoon and he just proved it beyond a reasonable doubt.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Apr 29, 2012 -> 05:21 PM) I didn't say it was a good act. You give these idiots enough rope, they eventually hang themselves.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Apr 29, 2012 -> 05:16 PM) I can't believe so many people don't recognize that it's an act. Well, the "act" might have just cost him his career. If it is an act, Joe may have realized it too late, "bra". They have links to his twitter on the Suntimes website. For some reason I really doubt his bosses appreciate the "act" he had today.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Apr 2, 2012 -> 11:13 AM) 11-11 Another genius. Too bad you don't seem to be as good at Powerball. This is the winner though, wite had .500 but there could have been mulitple rainouts. Hickory got the record right on.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Mar 25, 2012 -> 07:55 PM) They will go .500. (but wite, there are an odd amount of games) I SAY THEY GO .500 Genius. I'd keep my eye on this boy.

Oney is sticking up for Cowley saying he doesn't understand why people get worked up about words. Pot. Kettle. Black. Unless Joe can prove he didn't tweet these, he's in a lot of trouble. Maybe find a new line of work trouble. Joe's showing why some people are better off staying in their mom's basement.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Apr 29, 2012 -> 04:35 PM) I bet his twitter account was hacked. Yeah, right. Although I expect that to be the excuse you use to save your job.

I wonder how the Sun Times can justify keeping him around, but then again, its the Sun Times. Joe always thinks he's the funniest guy in the room. Unfortunately he is usually wrong. At the very least we are going to get an apology from him. Hopefully full of tears, saying he didn't mean it. He is beyond an idiot. I wonder if he's telling his bosses to give him what he thought the Marlins should give Ozzie, a phantom fine, a big apology and let it blow over.

I hope Thornton gets more opportunities in the 9th. He's back to being nasty

QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ Apr 29, 2012 -> 11:37 AM) At least we don't have to watch Beckham's pathetic attempts to hit. But without Konerko in the lineup, they probably lose again. No, you get to watch Escobar's and Lillibridge's pathetic attempts to hit.

QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 29, 2012 -> 11:29 AM) A little over 20k on a Saturday night vs Boston is shocking to me. That had to be lower than even the most pessimistic projections could have predicted They have a much smaller season ticket base. I cancelled myself, and its 35 degrees. I think the dynamic pricing, especially in April when people want to take a wait and see approach with the weather, hurts them. Going on ticketmaster the day of the game, unless you just don't care, the prices are insane.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Apr 29, 2012 -> 11:20 AM) Sure, but the opposite can be said for Sale and certainly Peavy, Konerko, and A.J. Right, but Konerko still looks like a .300 30 homer guy. AJ will do what he always does. Sale is a question mark, although I think his main question is going to be fatique. Danks will certainly improve. They basically look like a .500 team. It could fall apart and they could be bad, or they could get on a role and have a shot. Unlike last season, there's still reason to pay attention from a baseball standpoint.