Dick Allen

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 6, 2012 -> 01:16 PM) And the next year, Jerry Reinsdorf would no longer be chairman of that organization, the other members would vote him out. Not a chance. BTW, it wouldn't happen, but I was exaggerating to make a point. JR runs the Sox as he sees fit, and there is zero interference. There is complaining and suggestion but at the end, he's gets what he wants.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Feb 6, 2012 -> 01:05 PM) MB was never made an offer, that is true, but of course misses the reality and the full picture, as noted by other posters. As for JR, I am sure he does have final say, WITHIN BOUNDARIES as I noted. So he does not have "all the power", as you stated previously. He can't just go spend big extra money beyond what the team can afford, without getting some sort of approval from the voting partners. If JR wanted a $250 million payroll for 2012, the payroll would be $250 million.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 6, 2012 -> 01:07 PM) I'm sure most of that could easily be explained with the the perception that the board goes with whatever JR presents to them, thus giving the impression he has "all of the power". At the end of the day, it still gets run by the board of directors. Yet that wouldn't explain why an offer in the Sox price range wasn't extended before he became a FA. They really didn't wan't to pay him anywhere near market value is the real reason, and maybe they are correct, but it will never sit well with me that he was NEVER given an offer, just like the Ventura situation was wrong IMO. You can't tell me if KW and JR really, really want a guy on the team and he's in the last year of his contract, the prudent thing to do is to never make them an offer and let them go through FA and have them bring back their best offer to see if you feel like matching.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Feb 6, 2012 -> 12:53 PM) Well, first of all, as I understood it, they did in fact talk with his agent and give an indication of wanting him back. When his agent came back near the end and gave them a chance against Florida's offer, they passed. But that is because it was an offer so far outside of what the Sox or anyone else wanted to go with MB. Second, no, he does not have all the power. He has the power to do certain things, but the partnership dictates, within some boundaries (who knows what those are), what they have to work with. Buehrle was never made an offer. He even said he would have stayed for less, and apparently told the White Sox as much. No offer means they didn't want him back. As for JR's power, I believe you are mistaken. I was always told JR had the final say, and Lee Stern seemed to confirm that when promoting a book a year or so ago.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Feb 6, 2012 -> 12:03 PM) In fact, last I knew, JR isn't even the largest single stakeholder, monetarily. He is the representative of the partnership to the outside world. He has final say on everything. He has all the power. The problem I had with the Buehrle situation wasn't that they didn't offer him a blank contract but that he wasn't offered a contract at all.

QUOTE (Andrew @ Feb 6, 2012 -> 09:13 AM) I'll say it - If Konerko's "skills" as a captain are what will make or break Robin as manager, he's in deep s***. So you know how he is in the clubhouse and with young players? Please give us all the real scoop. It must be sarcasm his teammates use when they call him King.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 3, 2012 -> 10:56 AM) An 18 year old throwing 90 is not commonplace. 90 is an average major league fastball. This offseason has been as boring as the 2011 White Sox.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Feb 4, 2012 -> 09:40 AM) What is so difficult to understand here. Conception's price was driven up because he's a free agent. Harper was a draft pick that had no competition for his services and the only leverage he had was threatening to sit out a year. They are completely different situations and there is no comparison to be made here. So basically you are saying every draft pick is extremely underpaid. There is a huge comparison to be made here. An 18 year old with an 86 MPH fastball is getting $8 million, an amount of money the majority of people won't make in their lifetimes from a team who is begging for public aid to fund a stadium renovation. I hope someone points out to Ricketts he must have a ton of cash lying around if he thinks this guy is worth that sum. Its crazy.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Feb 3, 2012 -> 09:22 PM) I want to make comparisons to Kei Igawa and Tsuyoshi Nishioka to Concepcion, but those aren't fair because those are two monstrous failures, Igawa especially ($26 mill posting fee, 5/$20 contract...lifetime ERA of 6.66). So, I'll propose this instead: Who would you rather have, Tsuyoshi Wada for a 2 year, $8.15 mill contract, or Gerardo Concepcion for up to, say, 8-10 years for $8 million? Seems pretty obvious to me. Or would you rather take your chances on 16 Latin players giving them $500k each? The bottom line is if this guy was eligible for the draft, he' probably be lucky to get a decent fraction what he's getting from the Cubs. Maybe he's a key in getting another of the Cubans. Other than that, there are a lot of 18 year olds who throw 86-90 and dominate the lesser leagues they are playing in that will get nowhere near $8 million. If this guy were in the draft, would he be a top 10 pick? Bryce Harper got $6.25 million. $4 million is the recommended slot for the #1 pick. There has to be some reason the Cubs made this much of an overpay.

While I will applaud any effort to make the organization and scouting in particular better in any way, I'm not going to get too excited about the Sox stronger presence in the DR. It can help, but it probably will take a while, and the entire cast of characters from JR to KW to Ventura will probably be gone before it really pays off. I read last year the typical DR prospect takes 8 years to develop.

QUOTE (staxx @ Feb 1, 2012 -> 05:37 PM) as crazy as that would be, kenny would be the person to pull something like that off You're probably right, after all he was the guy who was able to pull off Peavy, Rios and Dunn.

Have the Sox acquired a major league player this offseason?

QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jan 27, 2012 -> 05:37 PM) ESPNChiSox Doug Padilla Kenny says no money left, not even to add a utility guy. This is your team Sox fans. 1 minute ago Favorite Retweet Reply What happened to the money that he claimed became available when he traded Quentin?

This, if he is successful, increases his trade value. They could get rid of him now but the return probably does not help the Sox in the short or long term except for JRs wallet. If he can close it could change that.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jan 24, 2012 -> 09:48 PM) Yeah, well, they didn't sign him for one year. And Fielder's upside is that of a 6/6.5. '94 Frank Thomas disagrees. As good as he was from '91'-93, he was making a mockery of the sport in '94 once they put Julio Franco behind him instead of a washed up George Bell or a broken down Bo Jackson. But keep deluding yourself into thinking that the Tigers didn't get a whole lot better. If Julio Franco was "protection" for Frank Thomas, how come Frank had the highest walk rate of his career in 94, and how did Frank's numbers improve when Albert Belle was signed to hit behind him?

What's genius about the Rozner article is if Ozzie and/or Oney and Co. respond like they usually do, it will prove Rozner's point.

QUOTE (knightni @ Jan 25, 2012 -> 03:53 PM) Perhaps Dick Allen should be invited back. They are giving out 1972 jersey t shirts to kids one Sunday this season. I think Dick Allen is going to be there.

I posted this very idea on this site 3 or 4 years ago. Brooks needs to hire me. I'd like to be a consultant that's pretty close to my ultimate goal of becoming a ghost payrollee. I only own one White Sox jersey, I am in the group that thinks people my age in jerseys looks silly, but it is a Dick Allen Mitchell and Ness. So I'm ready.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jan 25, 2012 -> 01:38 PM) No, that his main source of White Sox information and quotes is gone and he'll never need copy from him, interviews from him, etc. It's easy to blast the former manager/coach who you'll never have to see or deal with again. It would take guts to write columns blasting KW, Rios, Dunn, Jerry right now. Maybe he writes those type of columns as well. If so I apologize to him. You mean like Cowley did when he quit the beat and became a Guillen family spokesman?

QUOTE (Lillian @ Jan 25, 2012 -> 10:54 AM) The one puzzling point is that Buerhle followed Guillen to Miami. You would think that he wouldn't want to play for him. And then there was that moment caught on video at the end of the season. Remember during a late season interview with Guillen, when Buerhle was caught just off the interview camera, mubbling "shut up" in the dugout? I wonder why Mark didn't choose to go somewhere else. 4 years $56 million

When Ozzie became more concerned with Twitter and his website, it was very apparent managing the Sox was no longer a priority.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jan 24, 2012 -> 09:45 PM) Do Sox fans generally ride Kenny pretty hard at his Q and A? I would think the customers will be surly in asking him hard questions about this supposed half-rebuild/half try to contend thing he has going. Can somebody ask KW a ? for me? Q-What was the reasoning behind trading Santos after making the brilliant call to shift him from outfielder to reliever? He appeared to gain experience in the closer's role last year and in theory should be a reliable closer for the forseeable future. Why would you trade a proven closer for other pitching prospects when the closer positiion is vital to a team's success? I haven't been to Soxfest in a few years, but people used to routinely fire on KW, and to his credit or fault, he would usually fire back. It was a little akward at times, KW basically chewing out a fan. After the WS win, it was mostly "thanks for 2005". From what it appears only those staying at the hotel and going Friday are going to get to ask him anything.

QUOTE (SuperSteve @ Jan 24, 2012 -> 06:10 PM) All of the Tigers fans I know are pretty excited about this move. The Huge Show (mid-Michigan's version of the Afternoon Saloon) spent a lot of time on it too. Everyone seems to have such high hopes. Looks like I'll be seeing more Tigers games this year. Can't wait to see Miggy at 3b hahaha. No question, if they remain healthy, it will be a fun team for Tiger fans to watch, at least when they are hitting.

QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Jan 24, 2012 -> 06:17 PM) They were 4th in runs scored last season, bottom half in runs given up. Solution: spend $214 million on another DH. While Fielder is an upgrade over Martinez, its not a gigantic upgrade, at least the 2011 version of Martinez, especially if you consider it makes Cabrera a thirdbaseman, and puts a horrific firstbaseman at the other corner. In the world of fantasy baseball, defense is often overlooked. If you're bad in the field, the ball has a way of finding you. The Tigers infield defense is going to be about as bad as it gets.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 24, 2012 -> 05:47 PM) He's had a career .965 OPS in Milwaukee and .896 on the road. those numbers got a bit more severe last year. 1.096 at home, .869 road. That's interesting. Milwaukee seems like a good place to hit, and when the weather isn't perfect, they can still make the conditions close to it. I wonder if that has anything to do with it. That said I still think the guy is a force, just not a 9 year $214 million force.