Dick Allen

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Sep 23, 2008 -> 07:23 PM) For those with Tivo, check out Javy's great first inning. Fastball, fastball, fastball, fastball, fastball. Now look at him now. It was pretty funny when Hawk and DJ were crying about him not throwing a change, and he does the very next pitch, and you can put it on the board.

It seems everytime Ozzie pops off a little, the Sox come up big. For some reason I thought Vazquez would have a good start tonight.

Javy Vazquez is an overrated, overpaid loser. Trade him to Pittsburgh or KC and he'll get Cy Young votes.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Sep 23, 2008 -> 06:57 PM) Honestly, I think those guys have stressed it in ST, but the players are just f***ing lazy when it comes to it. I think you're right, but I think that calls for Ozzie or Cora making them take infield, something that is rare these days, and working on it before the games.

QUOTE (Friend of Nordhagen @ Sep 23, 2008 -> 06:53 PM) AJ better start going oppo. I love the term "oppo"

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 23, 2008 -> 06:48 PM) Yeah, those comments by Ozzie were mind-boggling. I still can't believe we didn't alter rotation to have two lefties face the Twins. I thought they were the same until I thought about it. Just think, if Vazquez comes up huge tonight, Ozzie's comments will get him a lot of credit from a lot of people. If Javy dissapears as usual in this situation, no one will blame Ozzie's comments. It would just be Javy being Javy.

QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Sep 23, 2008 -> 06:45 PM) A major league team that doesnt know how to execute a run down. Shouldn't Ozzie and the coaching staff take some heat for it? In 1999 I went to Minnesota for the last series of the season between the White Sox and Twins. They both sucked so the series was meaningless. The Twins won on Friday. On Saturday the Sox won and after the game, with the next day being the last game of the season, Tom Kelly had the Twins working on things out on the Metrodome turf. You can talk about how to execute rundowns all you want, but they must be practiced no matter how tedious it is.

QUOTE (BlackBetsy @ Sep 23, 2008 -> 01:40 PM) Javy Vazquez for whatever reason doesn't seem to be comfortable on winning teams. He likes the pressure off. Last year he wasn't so much 15-8 for a 90 loss team, he was 9-3 in the second half for a team that went 33-43 in the second half with absolutely no pressure. In the first half, the Sox struggled but were still considered a team that could eventually compete and had a shot. No one thought that in the second half. That said, all will be forgiven if he wins the game tonight. That's exactly right. I don't buy his flippant comments about not caring when he retires. I'm sure he would rather be remembered as a guy who can win you a big game. It can all start tonight, and for the duration until the WS victory.

QUOTE (scenario @ Sep 22, 2008 -> 08:08 PM) LOL. There is also a correlation between feet size and pizza consumption. But that doesn't mean that if someone eats alot of pizza that they have big feet. Javy's had a bad month the year he was traded to New York. And he had a bad season the year he was traded to the Sox. Besides that he played for crap teams. So... you want to connect the random dots to suggest that he doesn't have the cajones to pitch for good teams, only bad ones?? Nnnnnno. Don't think so. I find it amazing how people twist facts to prove points they want to make. Javy has been questioned before he came to the White Sox, however the facts are : 2006 White Sox win 90, Javy below .500 2007 White Sox lose 90, Javy 15-8 2008 White Sox contending all year should win 90+, Javy below .500 Bad month in NY? July ERA 6.61, August ERA 7.44. September ERA 6.29. He was so brutal the second half of his season with the Yankees and then in the playoffs, he was sent packing and the Yankees thought he was injured. So, for 2 years he's played with good teams in Chicago, his winning pct. is below that of his career. He played for a good team in NY and didn't get the job done. Maybe he can change some minds tonight, because pitchers making 8 figures a year should do well in big situations, not just when your playing out the string.

Javy needs to earn his paycheck tonight. No 6 IP with 7 k's and 5 or 6 runs allowed.

QUOTE (joesaiditstrue @ Sep 21, 2008 -> 01:57 AM) for those holding onto the "2.5 game lead with 7 (possibly 8) games remaining" if our next 3 opponents were, say, KC, Seattle, Cleveland, that 2.5 game lead actually means a lot more than it does right now What? Wouldn't a 2 1/2 game lead mean more if you are counting the games in Minnesota losses? Also a 3 game lead in the loss column. If somehow the Sox have to play Detroit again, do you think there's a chance in hell the Tigers won't mail in a game that has made them cancel tee times? If anything a 2 1/2 game lead at this point means MORE than it would under your scenerio. And if the White Sox don't deserve to win, you're saying a team with a worse record at this point does? I think the Sox will shock the world and win at least 2 in Minnesota.

QUOTE (Kenny Hates Prospects @ Sep 19, 2008 -> 10:25 AM) Buehrle was a draft and follow guy. Teams can't do that anymore. Had Buehrle been drafted in the 38th round of the 2008 first year player draft he would have had to go back to school and then re-enter the draft if he wanted any playing time. Or he could have joined up with an independent league somewhere. Oney was brought in to fill a spot on the bench in the low minors. He wasn't brought in to play ahead of any actual prospects. The only reason people say anything is because of his last name. If the Sox had draft some guy named John Doe who sucked just as bad and stuck him at the end of the bench there wouldn't have even been a thread about it. And it's not like the Sox gave him some outrageous signing bonus either. I fail to see how drafting a sucky minor league bench player unrelated to a member of the Sox organization instead of drafting a sucky minor league bench player who is related to a member of the Sox organization makes us a better, more successful organization. He hit .122 as a 21 year old in Bristol with a ton of strikeouts and a ton of errors. It was obvious playing professional baseball wasn't his thing. How many 36th rounders with those same numbers don't get released? Yet he gets to screw around another season, albeit riding a lot of pine but still playing and gets a call up to Charlotte for one game. Maybe Charlotte just needed a guy for one game, but it wouldn't have been Oney if Guillen wasn't his last name. There have been plenty of players drafted in the 36th round and beyond who have been at least productive minor leaguers. Oney received opportunities based on his last name, and to me, that is wrong. I think he "retired" because he knew Buddy Bell wasn't going to go along with the game anymore and he would have finally been released. I suppose you would have no problem with Oney playing the lower levels until he was 40.

Al Reyes is available. I think the Sox should pick him up for a week.

I don't agree with pitching Dotel this game. I know blowouts are the only games you can really trust him in now, but I really think his problem is he's gassed. He's made more appearances this year than he has in a long time. He needs rest if anything in an attempt to regain his form.

QUOTE (BlackBetsy @ Sep 18, 2008 -> 08:44 PM) I challenge anyone to come up with anyone worse. It would be tough. There are some with worse numbers. Broadway is horrible, but he can shut teams down when its a blowout and they are just finishing out the game. When Ramirez comes in no matter what the circumstance, one thing is for certain, runs will be scored.

I think Horacio Ramirez might just be the worst pitcher in baseball right now.

Javy and pitching in a big game don't go together well.

QUOTE (quickman @ Sep 17, 2008 -> 03:41 PM) completely agree, Blake will come and play here next year with some kind of two year deal. Quite frankly I think its a good fit and nice stop gap, until Beckham is ready, and yes I think Beckham may play third if he can fill out. Again all hunches. Ironically, Blake has missed some time recently with back issues.

QUOTE (daa84 @ Sep 17, 2008 -> 08:46 PM) yeah because middle relievers are notoriously fickle.... Granted they overpaid. I was hoping he would have a huge season and KW would trade him, but I think he got a no trade. You do have to admit that without him the first half of the season, the White Sox would have no chance at the playoffs.

Linebrink-injured Dotel-gassed Jenks-struggling Logan-gascan Wasserman-blows Ramirez-blows even more Broadway-blows more than Ramirez MacDougal-strikes will always be a problem Thornton-doing OK but can't pitch every game This is the problem.

QUOTE (daa84 @ Sep 17, 2008 -> 08:36 PM) haha its a bad signing...even when he was dealing i said it was bad...you just dont give middle relievers 4 year deals for 20 mil for the very reasons we are seeing right now Without Linebrink before he got hurt, we would be seeing Jerry Owens and Josh Fields playing everyday. We would see Mike MacDougal and Erin Wasserman pitching almost every day, we would see Horacio Ramirez nightly because these games would be meaningless.................oh wait......................

QUOTE (Friend of Nordhagen @ Sep 17, 2008 -> 08:35 PM) Linebrink being seriously injured has been obvious for about 6 weeks now. The Sox treated hit like the Soviets treated whether Andropov or Chernenko were dead -- nah, nothing wrong here, but we just won't talk about it, and you won't see the guy for weeks, and everything's fine. Linebrink's looking like Josh Hamilton's high school coach at the home run derby.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 17, 2008 -> 07:32 PM) Our starting pitching has been awesome for a week now. Unfortunately, if they can't go 8, they will be lucky to get a win.

Linebrink is toast. Come clean White Sox, tell us the truth. He needs surgery. To think KW said Linebrink didn't really need to be DL'd.............

Linebrink can't stop messing with his shoulder. I predict offseason surgery.