Dick Allen

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Aug 11, 2008 -> 05:44 AM) Prospects that are liked: Minor league stats dont matter Prospects that arent: Hard hat day at the Cell Considering Broadway has allowed 48 runs and 13 homers his last 65 innings in AAA, I think hard hats is a good idea.

I'd rather have Byrd.

QUOTE (JorgeFabregas @ Aug 10, 2008 -> 09:16 AM) Getz and Broadway set to come up, per WSCR. Broadway = That is beyond scary. I've been optimistic about this team this year, perhaps very uncharacteristically, but if Broadway gets a rotation spot, I believe the Sox chances just went significantly lower. Its a garbage move.

QUOTE (jphat007 @ Aug 9, 2008 -> 07:14 PM) Who is he supposed to bring in? Are we just supposed to pitch Dotel and Thornton everyday? You just can't do that. You got to use whats out there. If what's out there can't get it done then KW has to get somebody else. Thornton has thrown 3 pitches the last 4 days.

I was meeting a friend at the Westin today, and a bunch of "Red Sox nation" were in the lobby because the team stays there. Francona was sitting on a couch in the lobby and not one of them recognized him. Even Cub fans recognize the manager of their team.

QUOTE (tommy @ Aug 9, 2008 -> 08:11 PM) IF he can K Ortiz and get a double play we still got a chance. Maybe not.

Boone looks dominating during an AB or 2 every now and then, but he's been very bad for a while now.

Its Charlotte time Boone.

If he walks him, call him a cab to the airport.

The sonofsamhorn board must be brutal right now.

How much more of Logan does the White Sox hierarchy need to see?

DJ is on a roll tonight. Anytime you can throw in Strat-o-matic baseball, you're having a good telecast.

Is the Ken Griffey Jr. in CF experiment officially over?

QUOTE (Wanne @ Aug 9, 2008 -> 06:30 PM) So whaddaya think DA?.... Poreda? Broadway? Give Richard another chance? Waiver wire deal? Poreda is the best bet IMO in house, if they don't make Carrasco the 5th guy. But rookies in pennant races except for some rare exceptions, usually don't work out. Broadway isn't going to help. His ERA is over 7.00 his last 10 AAA starts. Wes Whistler would be BP in the major leagues. KW might have to bite the bullet and ask Uncle JR to approve picking up $ for mediocrity like a guy like Washburn.

QUOTE (Wanne @ Aug 9, 2008 -> 06:17 PM) So who's the 5th starter now?.....Broadway? If its Broadway, God help us all. They might as well let fathom toe the rubber.

Youkilis is in my top 5 of most annoying players, and I really have no reason. It must just be the bald head and thick goatee.

QUOTE (Jimbo's Drinker @ Aug 9, 2008 -> 06:15 PM) I dont want Carrasco for a starter, he is great in the pen. He's also about a week or 2 away from going on a streak so bad, everyone will want him released.

That's a shame about Contreras. I wonder how much the down time will affect him getting ready for next season. I supposed Freddy's 86 MPH heater just got a lot more attractive to KW.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 9, 2008 -> 03:51 AM) This kind of bluster is all fine and good, and most of the high-profile (first and second rounders) player we haven't signed have turned out to be blessings, but we're talking around $2.23 million here. We gave Joe Borchard well over twice that amount for nothing. KW needs to realize we're one of the clubs that's most vulnerable in terms of our farm system and the age of our roster, and that just because he's been able to piece together a contender this year, it doesn't mean this club is well-suited to be competitive 2-3 years down the road. It's really hard to imagine anyone but Quentin, Ramirez, Danks, Floyd and Jenks being around at that time...and even Jenks is iffy, because the White Sox typically don't like to pay $10 million plus per year to relievers and Bobby's going into arbitration I think. As much I would like to believe that Anderson and Fields will be starters and that Poreda will joining the rotation, I'm not convinced. When KW looks at his "mythical" big board, I wonder if there are any starters in our minor leagues right now? Maybe Shelby or Getz at 2B? Maybe Martinez or Silverio at SS, where we would seem to have less of a need now with Ramirez. So if we don't want to have one of the worst teams in baseball, we need to get this signing done. I'm still not convinced we would have been better off with Gio Gonzalez and Sweeney, and you could make an argument for Young over Vazquez simply because Young is affordable and athletic, and because we haven't been able to fill that position since Rowand was here...and even when Rowand was here, we kept trying to improve that position, refusing to see Rowand as an everyday player. Its all bluster. He speaks about losing developmental time, yet then says if he doesn't sign, no big deal, will just take the pick next year. That's losing even more developmental time. The problem I see is if the White Sox put a line in the sand at the slot figure. If he didn't sign, even if they got the same pick next year, signability, rather the acceptance of slot money for that pick next year would come into play meaning the Sox most likely wouldn't pick the best player on their board, but the best player willing to agree to their terms. That sucks, but I don't think it will come down to that. Not signing Beckham would be a disaster IMO. I believe they will sign him and probably Danks as well, although I don't think Danks is nearly the player a lot on this board think he is.

I read something in a Philadelphia paper of all places that Joey Cora is going to get a lot of consideration for the Seattle job after the season.

QUOTE (Jake @ Aug 8, 2008 -> 05:16 PM) I want the option to vest. He will be a very cheap, big bat. I love him, but cheap is something he won't be. It makes absolutely zero sense Philadelphia would pay more money if 3 seasons after the trade, the White Sox loved his play so much they picked up his option. It makes no sense that the better a player you trade away plays, the more you have to pay.

BOSTON Drew rf Pedroia 2b Ortiz dh Youkilis 1b Lowell 3b Bay lf Lowrie ss Varitek c Crisp cf Lester p WHITE SOX Cabrera ss Pierzynski c Quentin lf Dye rf Griffey dh Konerko 1b Swisher cf Ramirez 2b Uribe 3b Buehrle p

QUOTE (Kalapse @ Aug 8, 2008 -> 04:58 PM) Wouldn't that be counter productive? Jim Thome has been this team's 3rd best hitter, sitting him down in favor of a lesser hitter is only going to hurt your team. If his option vests, the Phillies should pay about half his salary so if you don't want him around you sell him off to an AL team on the cheap. I'm sure there would be some interest. Its counter productive tonight and its happening. While Thome isn't very good against lefties, he's doing much better this year than Griffey, and he's been hot lately. I don't think the Sox get any more money for Thome anyway. Everything I have seen said they received $22 million and he had $46 million left on his deal. I don't know why Philadelphia would agree to thrown in even more money if it meant Thome was productive enough to warrant exercising the option.

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 8, 2008 -> 04:31 PM) Is Thome hurt or just getting the night off? Do you think one reason they got Griffey were games like this to sit Thome down and try to keep that option from vesting?

Its 3.1 plate appearances. Bradley has walked 64 times, Alexei 9 or 10. He will need 502 plate appearances by the end of the season. It could be close if they move him up in the line-up.