Dick Allen

Keith Law wrote his velocity and command were down. He assumed he would be bought out and thought Kimbrel could get 1 year $10 million on the open market. if that is for giving up nothing, how do the Sox get something for 1 year $16 million? For whatever reason, he was pretty bad with the White Sox. i'd rather they spend that money on a cu\uple of pitchers, or a really good 2B or RF.

Southpaw is a HOFer

Being stubborn and obviously spending money unwisely is acting like a big market team? Results don’t change their process? I wonder what Allen Thomas would think about that statement.

I once sat next to Roland Hemond at a White Sox/Yankees spring training game. He gave a couple of insights. One was how he had agreed to a trade for Doug DeCinces but the medical people nixed it because of his back.

He should fly first class or a private jet the 300 mile flight between Phoenix and Las Vegas or he is an asshole. He is an asshole, but he did nothing wrong, and actually, if this guy is being straight and took whatever Tony told him directly to social media, was probably a little too friendly.

A lot of waiver claims and 1 trade.

All I am saying is this is a guy who put up a 6 bWAR, costs $10 million next year, and the Reds couldn’t trade him for a broken bat. I don’t know how anyone could expect Kimbrel is going to be popular at $16 million.

They needed OF because they didn’t have depth. The Soler trade is hindsight at its best. Did you have any posts saying the Sox need to acquire this negative WAR player? The Sox had plenty of these types already around, enough where Eaton who was in the same boat was sent packing.

They apparently couldn’t trade him. Do people really think some team just has to have Kimbrel at $16 million?

Wade Miley put up a 6.0 WAR has a $10 million option and the Reds put him on waivers hoping someone would claim him so they would save the $1 million buyout. The Cubs claimed him.

Crazy how criticism works. Back in the day, Greg Walker was ripped for supposedly having a “lift and pull” philosophy. Of course, that wasn’t true either.

That is probably the game plan without saying it. If there was some sort of structural problem, they would have dealt with it, but probably being 10-15 lbs lighter will take a load off his knee.

It could be one reason they didn't announce the option decisions today even though we know the decisions have been made. Might be doing the same with Kimbrel.

I think Hahn has a degree from Michigan, a law degree from Harvard and an MBA from NU. Turns out JR was ahead of his time hiring this type in the front office.

The beauty about baseball is even with the same roster, everyday you field a different team because of the pitcher. Sox pitchers were awful that series. If they were not, wh is playing 2B and RF probably isn't as big of a concern.

It is interesting Hahn won't say anything about the 2 options waiting to dump it tomorrow. The Hernandez news is out. I would think they k ow exactly what they are doing with Kimbrel, but if you are bringing him back, why refuse to address it?

Since for years they were one of the healthiest teams, he must have become real dumb. It is amazing one bad covid year gets this guy fired by guys , who if they held themselves to the same standards, would have been done in baseball years ago.

I don't think there is much hindsight there. He was always dynamic, a 26 year old free agent. If there ever was a time to do something crazy, that was it.

If a team was willing to trade for Kimbrel they could do it today.

Why pick up someone else's junk? Yerevan are guys on that list if the White Dox really wanted yhey could pick up for basically nothing and the other team may be willing to throw in some money. Why risk it with Kimbrel? He might get injured before they could trade him. You aren't getting additional value. Free up the money, admit it didn't work out and try again. People who trade for a living and are successful, make a lot of bad trades but are disciplined enough to be able to admit they are wrong and get out of the bad ones and ride the good ones. The amateurs if they are crunched and have a winning position and losing position and have to get out of 1 will almost always get out of the winner because they want to be right. In the end, they wind up out of the lower as well with even a bigger loss.

Yes he will, although others also confirmed. It wouldn't surprise me if Kimbrel was the reason this was delayed. Maybe they wanted a trade done right away.

Despite all the reports, I fully expe t Hahn to announce Kimbrels option was declined today.

If Kimbrels agent is about to become a GM, that would be helpful.

It was for far less money, and a far less profiled player, but that is exactly what the Sox did when they gave Viciedo some money. They leaked how he was drawing strong trade interest. Yet no trade.

It is different, and you did make a good point. Deals get nixed by ownership after basically being done deals often. It isn't worth the risk to me unless you are willing and prepared to have him on the roster, which to me means having a payroll at least $16 million higher than you were budgeting.