Dick Allen

This is the 2013 White Sox. If you want to pin their sucking on Robin Ventura, I will counter and say the roster was a bit problematic when it came to winning. https://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/CHW/2013.shtml

If Katz figured out Kopech, why didn't he let your guy Getz know before he gave him away for nothing? For all the things you somehow think the White Sox do right, 61-101 and 41-121 then stare you down.

Didn’t the Yankees pass on Flaherty at the deadline? If he wins tonight, that should be a fireable offense.

Who did your boy get for Jake Cousins? He picked Bryan Shaw.

If that rumor is even possibly true, how can you have any faith in building a team with the 10th pick? Is there anyone in the Sox minor leagues that actually projects to being a decent hitter in the major leagues? They better get some hitters for Crochet. The messed up with Fedde. Made a nice signing to get him, then blew it.

Thinking the White Sox are going to build a contender through the draft and trades is a fantasy with the current braintrust.

So you're saying because of Shirley, the Sox should have the same success at 10 they would have had at 1, like the other teams you had mentioned? If Shirley is that great, I can't wait for the big Jacob Gonzalez break out. FYI, since 2017, the #10 pick has a cumulative negative career WAR.

We don't know if that is true. He did turn down an interview with the Mets last year. He may have been offered the Marlins job, but speculation is the Cleveland guy has a history with their GM. I think he was the best available, so that's good. The White Sox should be offering a ton of autonomy, but who knows?

Especially with the anti-tank rules now enforced. 10th pick instead of 1st is a huge hit.

Venable's brother played for the Bears.

I don't think anyone is fooling themselves. They are going to suck for a while. But we do know what happens when they hire an idiot brown nose.

No they are not. But getting the right guy here will help, eventually.

Of the candidates out there, he definitely seemed the best. The Cleveland bench coach seemed OK, To me, if it was a tie, Venable would get my pick because he recently played. Maybe not a huge deal, but players seem to respond to it. He's basically an ivy League educated Grady Sizemore, with a lot more coaching experience.

The White Sox don’t pay for upkeep and improvements, and when the ISFA took on the Bears Reno, they had to mess around with their bonds. This will be the same problem only 5 to tenfold if the state caves and builds both new stadiums.

And there really is no hope on the horizon for a relatively quick fix. The catcher will help the catcher offensive numbers, but rookie catchers usually don’t hit much. Montgomery leaves a bunch of doubt.

They got the White Sox for 13 games. If it were 6, they were probably screwed.

I’m sure they do. He is under contract through next season.

He said the hold up now is with the NBA.

Laurence Holmes has the price breakdown for the app. 19.99 a month per team. 29.99 a month for all teams or 300 per year for all.

Of course, but you look at the White Sox and say when can they be good? If most goes right, it will be a while. At some point, the manager gets fired, and not many guys with only a history of 100 loss seasons get another chance. I would say if he stays where he’s at, he’s probably to odds on favorite when Bochy retires again. And he will get other interviews. There was a while Sandy wasn’t interested. Maybe he had kids in school or something similar and didn’t want to mess with it. You take over a team that might be a year or two away from a really nice run, you punch your ticket. LaRussa got the A’s job at a perfect time. Pedro might have won a WS with that roster. But it got Tony credibility, and when the A’s went bad, Tony got the Cardinals. If Tony got another team after the Sox fired him, if they weren’t stacked, he would never have the rep he has now. Since he left the Cardinals, he’s been around a ton of losing.

If I was Venable, I would definitely listen, and then wait for an offer, but the offer would have to be pretty, pretty, pretty good to accept. Market rate or average, why would you come to this mess? You will have other opportunities down the line. OTOH, if you go 58-104 you are a hero. But that’s no fun. Cutting payroll, little chance for the offense to be much better. Most likely trading away your best pitcher….if I’m him I’d wait.

I think even the Marlins would laugh. It has to be an agents worst nightmare….having to use the White Sox to try to up the ante.

Phil Nevin is late 90s early 2000s old school. Up until he was 28 years old, never hit 10 homers in a season. Then hit 24, then 31, then 41. Hmmm, what was going on around that time? The other thing is, he would obviously be a LaRussa hire as Getz said the hire would have been in uniform during the 24 season. Unless he had a job at Burger King, that wouldn’t be Nevin.

Which is true, but ironically, not turning down Jerry’s free money probably cost him a shot at ever being a GM of an MLB team ever again. No way any team will ever hire him in that role now, although if they looked at his work before the rebuild, they most likely would never hire him anyway,

So the question is are the Sox going to hire a re tread like Nevin or someone else they will tell us blew them away with knowledge yet will require an experienced bench coach because they aren’t quite sure he knows what he is doing yet? IMO, this hire really comes down to who will agree to JRs price.