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Don't you know the only reason there have been all these outbreaks is because of POTUS' greatest testing ever. Many have said the greatest testing of anything anyone has ever done. They are getting calls from all over the world wondering how it was done. If it wasn't for testing, there would be very few, if any Covid 19 cases in the US. It still boggles my mind how many people buy this crap.
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An article in The Athletic put it a lot better than Me, although it was the mist of what I have been trying to say. The owners are capitalists when things are going well and socialists when times are a bit tougher.
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Chris Doyle, the $800k a year strength and conditioning coach at Iowa is out after a former player expose on Twitter showed him to be racially insensitive at the very least. If any of it is true, and I suspect at least most, if not all, was, he got what he deserved. Hopefully the program can learn and become stronger. There were a couple complaints about Brian Ferentz, the coach’s son, and seemingly heir apparent, but it looks like he won’t be sent packing, although when his dad hangs them up, Brian now might not get the job.
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The new phenomenon by me is people not wearing masks but holding them. What’s the point? It looks like the research is showing wearing masks seems to be extremely important. But you don’t want to bother anyone who thinks this is a hoax. Might as well drag this out as long and as painful as possible If everyone would wear masks, and had been wearing masks, this actually might be close to about as over as it could be without a vaccine. When VP Pence said in April that by Memorial Day the virus would be behind us. I thought he actually meant it would really be behind us, not just the federal government acting like it is gone.
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Supposedly the owners will lose a lot more money by not playing at all. Considering they need players to play, it seems to me the players would hold the upper hand. They could refuse sighting safety.
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I aagree. It's one thing to work for a company that may go out of business if you don't take a paycut. But if you work for one where the owner can sell and wind up with a couple of billion dollarsEi it's hard to justify the cut. The players are getting what they get per game. That makes sense. They are also the ones taking the risk. How many essential companies gave their employees combat pay? It is really hard to have any compassion for the owners, especially when they "negotiated" the same monetary deal over and over again. It had to be a play at the dumb public. So, either they think the players are really stupid, the fans are really stupid or both. I go with both.
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If you are good enough to take the $20k and wind up being successful, you aren’t going to have a hard time finding a JUCO that will let you play all the time. Worst case scenario is you get a year in school and some development, and if you get redrafted, if it costs you, maybe it costs you $10k. So what. The extra year in school is worth that. How much development are these signees going to get before next spring?
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If JR, who, according to Forbes made $66 million with the White Sox last year, and has often said his only goal was to break even, shared that profit with players and White Sox employees, you may have a point.
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Let there be issues. There was going to be a fight anyway. The owners could have made it a bit better by actually taking some risk here.Caving to ownership isn’t a solid strategy, especially when they won’t prove their claims. If the person or corporation owning the place you work said we didn’t make any money this month, next month looks bad, in fact the next year looks not so hot, we I’ll pay you 1/3 of your salary to work 1/2 the time, I am sure they would be tickled you understood and were on board covering for them. I am guessing most of your colleagues would flee.
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2019-2020 Official NBA Thread
Dick Allen replied to Bananarchy's topic in Alex’s Olde Tyme Sports Pub
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That doesn’t matter. Their guaranteed contracts aren’t tied to how much money the owner makes. The owner can make unlimited money. The player only gets paid what his contract says he gets paid. Besides, even you acknowledge the owners won’t show the players how much they will lose The players are taking the health risks and having to go through all of what they will go through. Pay them what they are contractually obligated to be paid, and if it results in a loss, that is part of owning a business. If a recently re-opened restaurant wanted to triple their prices to make up for r losses in a pandemic, there is probably a good chance most patrons, even if they were sympathetic, wouldn’t feel obligated to bail them out, and choose some other place to eat. Now, if they had an attendance clause in their contract, that stated if the team only drew x amount of fans or less, they would be guaranteed less, then they would have a point. Most people get some sort of raise and some sort of bonus every year. If the company they work for says they didn’t make any money so no raises and no bonuses, they might be able to get away with it once, but even then, tend to lose their better people. Sometimes ownership has to bite the bullet. They can afford it.
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The owners acknowledge they would be losing even more if they don’t play. The players are the ones taking health risks. Many businesses gave their employees taking these risks, more money. Owners won’t show their books, showing they can barely make a profit.. Asking the players to take even a bigger pay cut is crazy.
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There is a de facto salary cap. In fact, it is one thing the union knows they got played.They gain nothing because crying poor has worked for years. The media has bought it, and held their water, yet they somehow come up with the coin to pay a James Shields $20 million a year.
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The question is why won’t they open their books if they have nothing to hide and making money owning a baseball team is extremely difficult? It isn’t about the public seeing it. We know the answer.
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If the owner is losing money, they can sell the team and never worry about money again. The owners agreed to guarantee these players these salaries whether they made millions or lost millions. The players are willing to play for the pay they would have received per game. Very fair. The Forbes link said teams made, on average, $50 million last season. Record profits. Now they are crying poor. The media has held their water forever. The poor billionaires. They have made this very ugly for no reason other than to try to intimidate a Union they have had their way with in recent times. This stupidity is going to cost everyone.
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You are all for owners not having to lose any money, but seem to have no problem with the player supposedly guaranteed $20 million this season getting paid $6 million. Ken Rosenthal had a proposal which, if the owners are being straight, something most people find laughable, would cost them each $20 million this year. Or one year of James Shields. 72 games full pro rated salaries. Seems reasonable. If that is too much water for an ownership to take on, they need to get out of the business. https://www.forbes.com/mlb-valuations/list/#tab:overall
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The problem is the $20k cap is such a small amount an interesting HS player isn’t going to skip college, an interesting junior would probably go back to school as well. It will just mostly be college seniors IMO. Obviously there are players that weren’t drafted that eventually will be good MLBers. But getting them signed for $20k is going to be pretty tough. Just remember Ozney Guillen turning down $75k, and that was a decade ago. Chances are pretty remote the Sox sign anyone worth being excited about.
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What would you have rather seen from this draft?
Dick Allen replied to southsider2k5's topic in Pale Hose Talk
When you watch the draft on TV, it's hard to really put things in the proper perspective. Most of these guys will never sniff AAA let alone the big leagues. But you watch their highlights, all the pitchers throw close to 100. All of them have nasty breaking balls. All the hitters can hit it a mile, or at least will project to. They all seem capable of winning a gold medal at the Olympics with their speed. The fact is, compared to other professional baseball players, the vast majority really don't stand out. I must of heard 3 or 4 times last night, "you could put this guy in a major league bullpen right now". OK, but not if you want to win. -
What would you have rather seen from this draft?
Dick Allen replied to southsider2k5's topic in Pale Hose Talk
If Kelley is the man, punting on the 3rd and 4th round is well worth it. Go look at the Sox drafts the past 25 years. Not much from the 3rd or 4th round. Not much from any round really, except for Sale and TA. Hopefully, Vaughn and Madrigal and now Crochet change that. You can question if Crochet was a good pick. Some have doubts about Kelley, but IMO, the plan was pretty solid. If they got the right guys, they deserve a ton of praise. -
He should have said lit as fuck.
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Most had hats. But it is pretty obvious they had a plan.
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If one of these 5 pans out, it’s a good draft. If 2 do, it’s tremendous. When is the last time the Sox had 2 guys that ultimately weren’t easily replaceable in the same draft? I get they kill their odds the last 3 rounds, but they picked their BPA in round 2, and seemingly had their plan in place to get their guys. You have to give them credit for that. If they work out, great. If they bust, that’s on them.
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I wish they would have taken BPA, and offered him slot. If he didn’t sign, get the extra pick next year.
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HS pitchers are a crapshoot, but the White Sox also have the fortune of not having his HS coach abuse him.
