Dick Allen

I just think these guys are supposedly elite. The 150 games on the roster in 2019 should be enough that in 2020 they are big pieces of a contender. If it wasn’t enough, and they still needed another 50 games, I would rather sacrifice that in 2020 than sacrifice an entire season at the end of their control when they should be at their peaks

Looks like rain. 48 degrees. It’s June in less than 2 weeks.

If you are calling them up in mid July, exactly what are they going to gain from playing with a cellar dweller? The games are meaningless, it’s like spring training, especially September. You are willing to give up one peak year each of Kopech and Jimenez for less than 3 months of meaningless games? And using your example, Griffey showed he didn’t need a year and a half in the major leagues to contribute.

I know Engel has the reputation of having a pus arm. He actually made a couple of really good throws last night. I think I mentioned this before but when I was at a season ticket holder q and a with RH last year, Engel came up. RH mentioned they were just speaking about him right before he came to meet us. He said Renteria loved him, didn’t care if he hit at all. RH said while he loved the glove, he was going to have to improve at the plate.

Cordell can’t hit either. A couple of years from now we will forget these guys even existed. I had some hopes for Engel, but after seeing him last year, realized those were pipe dreams. He got some hits in spring training and a few took the Kool aid. But it couldn’t be more apparent he cannot hit. If he was 22 or 23 I would think maybe there is a slim chance.

Payroll has something to do with it, but the White Sox have focus more on pitching as an organization for a long time. Maybe that has recently changed. One thing I did notice, when Ozzie was here, the White Sox has an above average MLB payroll every season. Since, even when signing free agents and “going for it”, their payroll has been above average once, in 2013 when they lost 99 games.

2 weeks into next season, and they get called up. It should be plenty of time for them to be ready in 2020. If it isn’t, they aren’t ready to be called up this season anyway. Kopech still has things to work on. Eloy can spend a few months in AAA. It won’t kill them. Then they have an extra year of control for when these 2 should be at their peaks, if the team is rolling then, excellent. If they need to rebuild again, an extra year of control gets you better prospects. There was a prospect a few years ago who put up this in the minors. .325/.438/.661 with 43 homers. 22 years old He wasn’t called up to his horrible team, and actually went back to AAA the next season for a couple of weeks. His team can afford huge contracts. His name is Kris Bryant, and I do not believe his growth was stunted in any way.

They shouldn’t be called up until a couple weeks into next season to get the extra year of control when the White Sox are supposed to be good. Giving up that year for both guys just to see them perform for a horrible team is worse than signing Moustakas for 1 year and giving up a second round pick. All of you tankers who think these guys need to be called up ASAP, are talking out of both sides of your mouth. Leave them down, see you next year. They will get over it.

He was much better tonight when he started throwing strikes. I don’t think he threw 3strikes in a row until the 3rd or 4th inning. I can’t understand pitchers trying to nibble on the corners the first pitch. There is such a huge difference 1-0vs. 0-1,and there are so many hitters who either won’t swing at the first pitch or require it be in a very specific spot, pitchers can get away with throwing meatballs then most of the time. And with sabermetrics and emphasis on pitches per AB, that is only going to grow. Pitchers need to use it to there advantage and get ahead in the count instead of trying to throw a perfect pitch. O-1; then they may chase your bullshit.

They have given him plenty to work with. They traded for Danks, Garcia, Garland, Peavy, Vazquez, Colon. Drafted Bepuehrle and Sale, acquires Quintana. They don’t sign big name free agent staring pitchers, because at one time they wouldn’t go more than 3 years, but to say he hasn’t had anything to work with because of it is not accurate.

So far the witch hunt has 17 indictments and 5 guilty pleas. The intelligence community is far more conservative than liberal.

I think it should already be determined that prayers won’t solve this.

It was just so coincidental that that is what alt right sites said and you happened to come up with. I really am not that dumb. She was 32 years old. If being overweight and out on a hot day causes heart attacks as commonly as you and your friends want people to believe, sidewalks across America would be cluttered with dead people ever summer. The heat got to her at the precise moment the car ran into her.The mother didn’t want your friends to believe they killed her. The poor woman won’t let anyone know where she is buried for fear your friends might desecrate her burial site. If the heat and her weight caused her death, your comrade wouldn’t be awaiting trial for murder.

LOL. The she was fat, it was hot was straight from the alt right. You are exposed. Why are you hiding it?

His lack of power has been discouraging. Last season he showed nice pop. He is bigger than he looks. Who takes his place? That Charlotte roster is pretty ugly except for Kopech.

Maybe so, but he is nowhere near the zone. Division 1 hitters aren’t major leaguers, but would have no problem laying off his offerings now. Something has gone totally south with him. Hopefully it is just confidence, but the more he performs like he is performing the lesser it appears there is a decent chance at recovery.

Your take on her death is absolutely disgusting.. no surprise it appears you came up with it from an alt right conspiracy site

Fulmer has a 4,96 career ERA in the minors and a career 5::58 ERA in AAA. He wasn’t ruined by being rushed. He just had no business being in the major leagues. Maybe something clicks. He has had some flashes of brilliance. I just don’t see how you can go from a guy who even can be considered a top 10draft pick to where he is now. If he was throwing what he is throwing now in college, there is no way he would have been successful. Obviously it would be foolish to give up on him, but I think it is pretty likely he is a lost cause. I know Andrew Miller was awful for a while then became a stud reliever. But that would require Fulmer being able to throw strikes something he shows no evidence he will ever be able to do. If he cannot throw strikes, he will need to find another line of work,

We will see moving forward, but right now he is Jose Valentin right handed. Jose had a below .600 OPS from that side. The one time he did bat lefty vs. a lefty, he homered,

Remember when people actually reasonably though Adam Engel might be able to hit? That was awesome.

I once saw a team score 4 runs with no hits.

They should give everyone who attended this game free tickets to use another season. Making them use them this season is like getting a coupon from a restaurant for a free meal after you find a roach in your sandwich.

Players who have fewer than 5 professional seasons and already have used up 3 option years qualify for a fourth option year.

I think Fulmer qualifies for a 4th option,

Hey look a walk.