Dick Allen

I suppose the other argument against could be if it is the Sox or Yankees like the GM suggested, the Yankees are probably only going to go one year. If that's the case, he could be the back up to the back up next year.

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Feb 20, 2018 -> 02:37 AM) All of the hitters do it. Collins for example faced Brian Clark just like that and didn't swing. Dick Allen used to do it in spring training games.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Feb 20, 2018 -> 01:12 PM) I'm pretty confident in saying that the White Sox won't be forfeiting the 45th pick and $2 million in draft capital to sign Mike Moustakas. I think they definitely would if they think there is a legit chance of being contenders in 2019. I've heard Hahn say 2020, even the most optimistic Hawkeroo thinks 2020. But they did beat their rebuild target by a season in 1990. Of course at the deadline that year they added Jerry Hairston, so he could get his 10 year pension, and Minnie Minoso, who the commissioner said no. Oakland added Willie McGee and Harold Baines. Ozzie popped off. The still won 94 or 95 games. One of the craziest fun seasons ever. Winning games on wild pitches. Getting no hit and winning without even a save situation...

QUOTE (ptatc @ Feb 20, 2018 -> 12:58 PM) The only way it makes sense is if they really think Burger can stick at 3B. Hopefully, Moustakas would play well and they could slide Burger in when leaves. If he plays poorly maybe they would be stuck with him so it's going to depend on those "option $" If, no matter how he does, leaves money to add from the top shelf and not the bargain bin, then they should go for it IMO. I think that is how they should look at it. I have to think free agent prices are going to be a lot higher next year, because all of the spenders are going to be players. If you can take advantage of that now, then take advantage of that now.

Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump Mitt Romney, who was one of the dumbest and worst candidates in the history of Republican politics, is now pushing me on tax returns. Dope! 6:34 AM - Feb 25, 2016 Now an endorsement. Will Mitt ask him to release his tax returns again?

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Feb 20, 2018 -> 12:48 PM) If the Royals were interested in Hosmer, they might as well go after Mous and sign a 1B for about the same/a little over what Hosmer got annually (and also not as long). Supposedly they are pulling the plug on any hope of trying to compete. I had been typing lately that opt outs aren't all that terrible for teams, but with the White Sox, giving an opt out after a season or two doesn't make much sense, unless, you are thinking of flipping him this summer, and then going after Machado/Donaldson, or trying to compete with him at 3B in 2019 and going after someone else if he opts out. I have been on the Moustakas to the White Sox boat for a few years. The way Hawk talks about him, you know the White Sox really like the player. That said, I really don't know what a bargain is for him. If they signed him to a 5 year $65 million deal, that still leaves a lot more cash around the next couple of year than taking Matt Kemp's deal for a prospect, and you have a 3B. I don't think paying full price with opt out(s) makes much sense.

QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Feb 20, 2018 -> 12:36 PM) Given that he has a draft pick tied to him, he will cost a hefty sum and his WAR the last six seasons are 2.2, 0.7, 3.7, 0.5, 1.2 and 3.4 (2017 to 2012), I would much rather have Yolmer Sanchez for 2018 and see if he improves upon his 2.1 WAR. The 0.7 was in 27 games. And he really only started to hit 3 or 4 years ago. It depends what kind of a bargain he is. I wouldn't be too worried about a 2nd round pick being lost. He's definitely better than what you would expect a second rounder to be. Boras being is agent probably means the bargain cannot be met.

QUOTE (illinilaw08 @ Feb 20, 2018 -> 12:25 PM) Ugh. I hate that talking point, and I think the most offensive part of it is the idea that we can sort humanity into "good guys" and "bad guys." Everyone is technically a "good guy" with a gun until they do something that makes them a bad guy... Yes, I just wonder how many "good guys" always carrying a gun, may, for a moment when they are angry or drunk or irritated, become "bad guys". I'm sure the number is greater than zero. The US has 4.4% of the world population and 42% of it's guns. It seems the theory of more guns being the solution has already been debunked.

I doubt Shields was injured enough to Kibosh the trade. It may have meant SD eat a little more money or take a different prospect. But the prospect was one who had not played, so I would imagine that wasn't very likely.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 20, 2018 -> 09:29 AM) Again, this is complete libel. Kenny Williams hasn't done the same thing. He did not create two sets of paperwork in order to be able to give an incomplete medical history to another team while hiding the teams true findings in order to fool other teams in an effort to hide injuries. This is exactly what was found by MLB. Yes, the Sirotka caper is riduculous to blame on KW, and I love finding things to blame on KW. Gord Ash waived his opportunity at a physical.

QUOTE (Brian @ Feb 20, 2018 -> 08:52 AM) Mitt will probably win and GOP will say it's YUGE when that state will probably will never go blue. Trump will claim his endorsement put him over the top.

QUOTE (JenksIsMyHero @ Feb 20, 2018 -> 09:04 AM) The point isn't to show that school shootings aren't a problem. One shooting is one too many. The point is to keep the debate honest and truthful. You should want that. The minute you start overblowing the problem and using false statistics, the other side latches on to #fakenews and all that nonsense. Overblowing the problem? Good God man, someone just killed 17 people in a school. And it is a pattern that is developing. Whether that has happened 17 times or 6 or 2, what difference does it make? Something beyond thoughts and prayers, and the NRA check has cleared needs to be done. It's too bad it's human nature to believe bad things like that happen to others. We all need to start acting like the victims of these massacres were people we know and love. I'm pretty sure Little Marco wouldn't be as disconnected if it was his kids' school that got shot up, or his brother at some concert some sick ass was mowing people down. Or his cousin at the movies when someone decides to kill people.

QUOTE (wrathofhahn @ Feb 19, 2018 -> 09:23 PM) You do realize it's not that simple right? If he plays well and opts out the Redsox maybe happy they paid extra (probably about 10 million based on what EE got last year) but got their LF/DH for two years. The problem is baseball is not that simple and tidy. He could play poorly or be injured for the first year he then walks away like a boss with most of his money paid upfront. Or he could have a down year or be injured for two years then opt out in year three. Or he could be a disappointment entirely and opt in for the entire duration. The point is regardless of what happens JDM is covered and will come out ahead. The redsox absorbed a terrible amount of risk with no upside whatsoever. In fact in the best case scenario they pay a DH 50 million for two years. Which is beyond crazy. You make it sound like he would have signed a 2year contract. No way. If he sucked, they were going to have to pay him for 5 years anyway. This way, they can have him for 2 years, and he is only opting out if he played well enough to justify the 2 years. For some reason, many teams that have players with opt outs tend to re sign them to longer more expensive deals when they opt out. In 2 years Martinez will be an older, most likely less valuable version of himself. If he opts out, it means the Red Sox made a great deal for 2 years. If he doesn’t, they would be in the same spot without an opt out. If the Red Sox are disciplined enough to realize 32 year old DHs tend not to be worth what JD would need if he opted out, because some team won’t, the opt out will work in their favor.. it is a great thing for the player. I am not saying it isn’t. They have a shot at even more money while guaranteed their entire contract if they suck or get hurt. But they would have had the later anyway. I would thin, unless he really hates it there, it’s more likely the opt out will not be used.

QUOTE (wrathofhahn @ Feb 19, 2018 -> 05:56 PM) The only way opt outs can work in the teams favor is if they are backloaded which is the way they started with AJ Burnett, Arod, etc. Boras seems to have convinced clubs to front load deals AND still get an option. This is why I have a hard time feeling sympathy for players because owners and Gm's are just so stupid that you know Boras will take some sucker to the cleaners. This signing was terrible but the Hosmer was the absolute worst. They work out fine for a team if they take them for what they are. JDM 2 best seasons should be the first 2.if he opts out, it means the Red Sox got a pretty good deal the first 2 years. If they weren’t willing to go more than 5 years now, why, in essence, would they 2years from now? Teams letting the opt out go usually are pretty happy they did. Teams they re sign the opt out to a longer contract usually regret it. If he has 2 great years, be happy and let him walk. Let someone else pay for the decline. It is great for players, as if they play well enough they will get even more. But if teams are smart, it could be a good deal for them as well.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Feb 19, 2018 -> 05:05 PM) Maybe I'm wrong but the opt outs seem to be 100% In the players favor. If a player is playing well enough to.opt out, you would rather he stay.on the original contract. And if he is not playing well enough, then you are stuck with him. Defin, but with a bit of discipline it can also work out for the team, like Albert Belle with the White Sox.

QUOTE (CWSpalehoseCWS @ Feb 19, 2018 -> 04:21 PM) It'll be interesting to see the years on this. Supposedly 5

Looks like JDM to Boston is about to happen per Heyman.

Hey Greg, a Kansas Republican running for office is giving away an AR 15. Enter early. Enter often. https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/19/politics/gop...away/index.html I wonder if he would still be giving it away if his kid was blown away by one. Great candidate.

I like Silvers new plan to seed th playoffs 1 to 16.top 8in each conference make it but then conference doesn’t matter. Obviously the West is far better now, but 5 or 10 years from now it is probably a different story. I hope this gets implemented soon.

Why would Dickerson be worth considerably more in June or July than he is now? He is going to cost something to acquire. If the cost is next to nothing, why wouldn’t a team in need go after him now?

QUOTE (soxfan49 @ Feb 18, 2018 -> 04:50 PM) You can poke fun if you want. I know you’re not dumb enough to think that every pro athlete gets suspended when they have drugs in their system. 75% of the NFL smokes weed; do 75% get suspended? I think it’s also well known how often coke is used in pro hockey. Also, good jab with the post listing a few illegal drugs. Who brought up opiods or heroin? Bet you feel badass after that write up. My source is a sports personality in Chicago. He could be wrong, but he’s usually right. If it’s a concussion, then Toews probably wouldn’t have said this: “Crow knows he’s trying to get better. He’s one of those guys that we know we can rely upon as a person, as a teammate. He’ll do what he can to get himself better.” Might want to go back in the thread. All of the drugs I mentioned were listed. Badass style. Edit. I forgot meth.

He is just stating the obvious. Is there anyone here that didn’t think he was the Sox 2B?

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Feb 18, 2018 -> 02:44 PM) He is kind of repetitive with Nicky, but honestly don’t see the point of letting Davidson be the everyday DH. He’s an upgrade there and theoretically has some “flipping” upside with another strong first half. DH is the one spot I’m ok with getting a veteran if said player has some potential trade value. I’m not a huge Dickerson fan myself, but I can see the Sox making this type of move. I was actually hoping they would target Tillman at the beginning of the offseason, but I can’t see them adding another starter to guaranteed money with Gonzalez in the fold. And I think the Sox are all in on the Machado front and won’t add anyone that blocks that to a certain extent. Nightengale is a big White Sox news guy and he even wrote if Machado isn’t a Yankee it will be the upset of all upsets. While I agree they want him, they better have a really good plan B. https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/c...kees/347912002/

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Feb 18, 2018 -> 02:17 PM) For some reason I really think they’re going to add Dickerson. The only thing is he is kind of repetitive with Delmonico. Plus the Sox have 11 outfielders on their 40. I guess with Leury on the roster being so flexible, it’s possible. I think they think they have a shot at Tillman, or maybe even Moustakas, although that is Boras so unlikely.

QUOTE (New Era on South Side @ Feb 18, 2018 -> 02:09 PM) When will he shut up about the 2016 election? Did his predecessors bring old candidates up as much as he does? If you watch Fox News you would think Dems haven’t figured out the results of the election. If it isn’t State run TV, it has a spot on imitation.