Dick Allen

I think the Irving is the best player so Boston wins, but it was a good deal for Cleveland. They weren't going to win a title as they were constructed. IT, IMO, isn't as good as Irving, but he's still good. I've never been a Crowder fan, but he's serviceable, and you don't need him scoring when IT and Lebron are on the floor, the center is OK, the pick could be gold, and on top of it, they save $30 million in luxury tax. So they did what they had to do. Just in the NBA, when you are not tanking, it almost always is whoever gets the best player winds up "winning" the trade. If the Bulls really want to mess with DWade, they should play him 38 minutes a night. That will get him to want a buyout a bit sooner.

Tom Skilling cried on the air.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Aug 23, 2017 -> 08:15 AM) As Trump ranted and rambled in Phoenix, his crowd slowly thinned Honestly, it doesn't sound all that more insane than any of his daily campaign rallies were. It's just that's still a really high level of insanity and now he's doing it while he's President. Shame about the police shooting peaceful protesters with tear gas and rubber bullets, though. It seems these rallies are just to appease his ego and have the basket of deplorables cheer him on. On one hand, you can't hold it against him if this was a campaign rally, but the guy is the President. He can't act like this. The night before he reads about how the country needs to come together, but this was all about the exact opposite. And the lies, OMG the lies, or at least the deceit. His take down of McCain was ridiculous. His accomplishments...insane. His threatening to shutdown the government until they agree to fund the wall (where's Mexico) crazy. He also tried to get the attendees riled up by claiming the dishonest media turned the cameras off. He clearly isn't fit for the job, and as much as I think Pence might be worse in many ways, this guy can't have the nuke codes. He needs to go. One thing I noticed is many of these attendees are like Deadheads. They have been to multiple rallies. I really don't know what his handlers are thinking setting these things up unless they are to the point they want him exposed. It just makes him look nuttier.

QUOTE (Big Hurtin @ Aug 22, 2017 -> 09:03 PM) http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/22/politics/mit...ship/index.html http://freebeacon.com/politics/trump-mccon...shouting-phone/ While I love those 2 idiot fighting, it is hysterical Trump blames him for not getting it done. If it got done, all the credit would go to Trump. For a guy who learned everything there is to know about health care in a very short time, he sure did sit on the sidelines during that time.

I am surprised. Usually 7th round picks are stars from day 1.

The Sox emblem on the grass behind home plate has a screwed up O.

QUOTE (TRU @ Aug 22, 2017 -> 06:48 PM) Not by PER hes not One had to give it up to Lebron, the other did not.

Irving is by far the best player. It's a win for Boston. Although the draft pick is something.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 22, 2017 -> 01:25 PM) According to Knights twitter, Giolito will be the 18th player from Charlotte promoted to the White Sox this year. He will also be the 27th pitcher the White Sox have used this season.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Aug 22, 2017 -> 01:09 PM) I would agree with you on all things, except Fulmer. He is a bust. His stuff is just not good. Don't know what happened, but he lost something. I wish he were hurt cause I'd at least have a reason for why his stuff become so non-existent. I've seen zero flashes of "special" out of him. I also think it tends to be easier to evaluate pitchers then hitters (as well). He's a bit off, but it isn't like he was throwing 89. I wouldn't write him off. He needs to find a way to throw strikes like Thornton and Kahnle. I don't know if it will happen, and am sure his head is probably pretty screwed up right now and probably overloaded. His talent is still there IMO, but when you are always behind, its a double whammy because you have to lay it in there, and guys won't swing at stuff out of the zone. Just like a hitter, he's got to get himself better counts, and he needs to convince himself he can consistently throw strikes. I really have no idea why they called him up. He was set up to fail.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Aug 22, 2017 -> 12:56 PM) Every season from Jose is a bit different from the one before but he's pretty consistent to say the least. He has the 9th highest wRC+ and wOBA in the AL since joining the league. He's also 8th in PA since 2012. He plays all the time, he contributes all the time and he seems like a great guy. He's certainly atrocious defensively, but otherwise he's everything we could have asked for when we started wishing for him this time of year in 2013. His defense has been a lot better lately. Not the gold glove level the broadcasts are trying to sell, but at the very least, acceptable.

The ridiculousness of this thread though shows you all you need to know about young players. It was created less than a month ago when Rodon was coming back from injury and it's titled, Can he become a quality MLB starter. That's not even ace or #2 or probably not even a decent #3, because he got lit up when he wasn't really ready to be 100%. Now it's extensions... Maybe every fan base is like this with young players, but guys need experience, and it isn't always going to go well. Sometimes it not going well for a while is better for them in the long run.

Giolitto better look awesome tonight, or he's a bust as well. Did you see what he did last year? Moncada, Fulmer, Collins....confirmed busts Lopez, huge questions. ERA over 6.00 and hurt.....most likely bust Giolitto, big game tonight will determine his status....very well could be a bust. For people who wanted full rebuilds, the patience is amazingly short.

I hope for his sake he was joking, but Tucker Carlson on Trump looking at the eclipse without glasses: “In a move that is not a complete surprise, he looked at the sun without any glasses,” Carlson gushed. “Perhaps the most impressive thing any president has ever done.”

Why does Trump use all the hand geatures when he is clearly reading from a telepromper? It looks ridiculous. Can't his handlers turn off Fox News and give him lessons ?

Rookies struggle.

QUOTE (Knuckles @ Aug 21, 2017 -> 06:39 PM) The guys over at SM, said Moncada can't hit a changeup. If it's a good one, he has a ton of company.

I really like Buxton.

Did all parties have the proper permits?

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Aug 21, 2017 -> 02:14 PM) Yeah, but does anyone come close to what Trump is doing? All this stuff is on record. We can compare how often each President golfs and goes on vacation, at least in the modern era. Trump is blowing everyone out of the water and he's the only one I could recall going out of his way complaining about other Presidents. The secret service cannot keep up. When the heck has that ever happened in our lifetimes? Not to mention he told his rallies that he wouldn't have time to play golf. He would be way too busy sitting in the WH making great deals.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Aug 21, 2017 -> 01:38 PM) As did every Republican. Which was preceded by every Democrat complaining about how much time Bush spent in Texas. Has there ever been a president who didn't golf and go on vacation too much? It's a little different when it is the actual individual who is b****ing about it. But that is part of Trump's shtick. You know when he starts talking about the lying media and fake news, some more lies are coming out of his mouth. Katriana Pierson former national spokesman for the Trump campaign, called slavery good on Fox this morning.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Aug 21, 2017 -> 01:16 PM) It took Trump 7 months to bankrupt the secret service. He used to tweet about how much Obama was costing taxpayers going to Hawaii. For a guy who would have no time for golf and was just going to sit in the White House making great deals, his detail sure does cost a lot of money. Anyone sick of winning yet?

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Aug 20, 2017 -> 09:49 AM) Covey could provide help next year towards another high deaf pick in '19. Just kidding. I'm not interested in a Pirate style rebuild that takes a few decades. If the guy threw 98 or had a nasty breaking ball or great change up, something, I could see the team's attraction. He just seems mediocre across the board. To me, his upside is still a gas can.

Of the 5 pitchers the Sox used last night, Beck's 6.00 ERA is the lowest. Copp will fix em. There are things you never see. Covey 15 homers allowed in 40 innings. Holland an ERA near 10.00 his last 14 starts. Goldberg a 14/3 walk to strikeout, all on the same staff. If anyone is really worried about draft position, look at he pitchers agsin.

QUOTE (WBWSF @ Aug 20, 2017 -> 08:38 AM) The off season starts with Hahn trading Avi Garcia and Abreu for more prospects. This will be done in the name of a rebuild. I see it as more of a salary dump to get this team to have the lowest payroll in MLB. All this translates into more profits for JR. This leaves the team with the following lineup: 1B=Gillaspie, 2B=Moncada, SS=Anderson, 3B=Davidson, LF=L. Garcia, CF=Engle, RF=Delmonico, C=Smith. Starting Rotation Rodon, Shields, Lopez and Holland. (Hahn resigns Holland thinking that he'll have a rebound year) Bullpen= The same group who are in our present bullpen. After Rodon gets off to a good start Hahn will sign him to a contract extension. After the All Star break Hahn will then trade Rodon to the Cubs for more of their prospects. Nobody ever talks about this but Hahn is a life long Cubs fan. He never attended a White Sox game in his life until he started working for them. And finally for a job well done (Last place team with the lowest payroll=enormous profits) JR will reward Hahn with another contract extension, I think you might need a new hobby.