Dick Allen

QUOTE (GreenSox @ May 8, 2016 -> 04:02 PM) How's Addison Reed these days, Mr Sunshine? Drake and Adam? I'm enjoying the winning very much,thank you. We'd be even better, and for more years, if we'd stop trading young talent for these "stars" who never really were "stars." I'm enjoying Avi Garcia as well.....of course, supporting him is considered "negative" according to your groupthink. Reed is doing well for the Mets. Much better than Davidson. I assume Drake and Adam are having a grand time. Never said supporting Avi is considered negative. Not once. Why isn't Oakland dominating the AL with all those White Sox prospects?

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ May 8, 2016 -> 11:08 AM) Tyler Flowers is batting cleanup for the Braves today. His next extra base hit will be his first of the season.

Cowley up to his old tricks again. Says Butler is upset at the smear campaign being thrown his way. Cowley, who reported the Noah/Butler would have come to blows on his own, now seems to claim Gar is behind this smearing.

Byung Ho Park has the worst name in baseball.

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ May 7, 2016 -> 04:08 PM) I think you're overestimating the impact the manager has. As long as he's not grossly misusing the bullpen (and aside from a couple headscratchers, Robin has been fine here), abusing the starters (might have rode them a bit too hard last year, but this year it's been fine), and utilizes the bench (I think Robin does a good job here), I don't think the manager really matters that much. Can't deal with real, on the field adversity? I'm not even sure what that means. That is because it is made up ,move the goalpost BS. He can't determine if he manages well unless he pulls them out of a rut. Yet if that happened, he can always fall back on the only reason they were in the rut to begin with was because of inept managing. It would be never ending.

QUOTE (AustinIllini @ May 7, 2016 -> 03:40 PM) The point where they go through a slide. It's not that hard. Robin has proven he can't deal with real, on the field adversity. Period. Thank god portions of this team have over performed. And with regards to Thibs, the whole Bulls org hated him because he was a nutcase. Looking forward to watching his big guns play 46 minutes against the 76ers in Minnesota. Their top 2 big bats have underperformed. They have an issue with a spot in the rotation. Had a big controversy in spring training where even some thought a couple of their best players needed to be traded because of what they said. I think they have had plenty of adversity, yet have prevailed. The people who don't like Robin can't give him credit. But if he was home in California and say Renteria was managing with the exact same results, I think Renteria would get a lot of credit, and deservedly so. I also think it would be used as proof that Robin was a goof. Good players are more important than a great manager, and many guys who were or are considered great managers at one time were managing teams that lost a lot of games,. Joe Maddon is a genius, yet he lost 101 games his first season in Tampa and followed that up with a 96 loss season. Joe Torre was considered an idiot manager in a couple of cities. Bobby Cox first 5 years were no better than Ventura's. Tony LaRussa was considered an idiot by White Sox fans until they got rid of him and he managed better players. The last 3 are HOFers. Maddon may be one day.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ May 7, 2016 -> 03:14 PM) There's no way the Sox get Trout without giving up Sale. If they would trade Trout, I doubt Sale would be someone they would be interested in. i would think they would want younger guys with many years of control. Maybe a 3 way trade where a team with the prospects the Angels would want would want Sale. I love Sale, but I would trade him straight up for Trout in a heartbeat.

QUOTE (bmags @ May 7, 2016 -> 03:04 PM) I just don't think their owner would ever trade trout. I don't think so either. At least not for a couple of years. As long as he is there, they don't need much more to always have the proverbial puncher's chance of making the playoffs.

It won't happen, but you do what it takes to get Trout. If he is on the White Sox, it would change the entire dynamic of the franchise.

QUOTE (AustinIllini @ May 7, 2016 -> 01:09 PM) I don't agree with you, so I'm trolling . Whatever dude. I don't hate the Cubs, so I'm trolling. I correctly predicted the Hawks would struggle without four defensemen, so I'm trolling. This board can be a greatest hits of whiners sometimes. But seriously, let's re-sign a manger after 30 games. That's what the good teams do, right? What I find interesting is 30 games into the season you think the White Sox haven't needed a "real" manager. What point of the season does that need kick in? And if Ventura had been replaced last year and a new guy was at the helm now, would you still not be giving the new guy any credit and not using the performance thus far against Robin? I think you would considering you used sitting out this season as proof Thins was a very flawed NBA coach. Nobody wanted him.

6-13 vs the Twins last year. Keep the turnaround going.

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ May 7, 2016 -> 11:02 AM) Someone is in full-on insult mode today. First the insult to GreenSox in another thread, and now this. What a wonderful contribution to the discourse around our first place team. We should be saying this team needs a new manager , a real manager, and Greensox should be praised for his baseball thinking. I would think for a guy who finds winning a WS the only redeeming quality of a baseball season, GreenSox and his anti good players, perpetual rebuilding is heaven posts would be the exact opposite of what would interest you.

QUOTE (AustinIllini @ May 7, 2016 -> 10:58 AM) Sarcasm aside, this team will likely struggle and the pitching will likely regress to some extent, and at that point we will be wanting a real manager. LMAO. They need to hire someone from the game threads.

QUOTE (AustinIllini @ May 7, 2016 -> 10:12 AM) Imagine this team with a real manager. I'm sorry, it's still not Robin (loved him as a player, btw). He has improved, but he's still mediocre. Probably undefeated.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ May 7, 2016 -> 10:00 AM) He very well may be turning it around. He has talent. Sometimes it takes time. We'll see. Even elite players like Todd Frazier didn't pull it together until 25 or 26. I see you are enjoying the 20-10 start. You must be a treat to be around.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ May 6, 2016 -> 02:27 PM) He was an intern with Boers and Bernstein. Dan mentioned the other day that people told him that Jason needs to stop doing the announcer voice. Dan says that it's his voice. That's how he sounds all the time, even during regular conversations. I don't have any issue with his announcer voice. It's not like Kevin Harlan, the king of announcer voices with his wet s's. The guy can't say enough words with an s in it and it alwaysh shoundsh like thish.

Should be good crowds all 3 games, especially tomorrow with the bobblehead. I bet it's over 25k tonight.

We have been here before with Avi a couple of times. His first 23 games with the Sox, he hit .349. As late as June last season, his OPS was above .800. He will get ridiculously hot. That HR last night was amazing. The only HR I have ever seen with less air under it was Dave Winfield back in the 80s. The key will be can he stay away from swinging at pitches he can't hit. He's doing it now. I actually saw an AB with pitch trax where Avi only swung at strikes the other night. That doesn't happen too often. He has all the ability, but old habits tend to resurface. They should ride him when he's hot, though. And hide his glove so he can't go out to RF.

QUOTE (lostfan @ May 6, 2016 -> 12:03 PM) And his WHIP was 1.4 for that, that's just not good enough. Burns through way too many pitches because his command just isn't there. He had a nice bounce back in the minors last year. I thought there was reason for optimism. He appeared to have a decent shot a rotation spot before they signed Latos, but even then Hahn was praising Turner. You have to think when guys claimed on waivers who pitched 9 minor league innings last year, and previously had some difficulties in the major leagues, seemingly leap you, the handwriting is on the wall. I fully suspect EJ will be a throw in for some trade in short order. He still has some potential, but I really doubt it will be with the White Sox. It seems they made their minds up long ago, and he was around in case of emergency. And he did nothing that would change their minds.

QUOTE (raBBit @ May 6, 2016 -> 10:53 AM) Who cares? He's gone. Are you telling me fans get tired of the highest paid player when he performs as one of the worst annually? That's some groundbreaking stuff. No, what I am getting at is the Johnson kept the team in the game argument. He was awful. There are no 2 ways around it. The bullpen had to go 4 innings. He got out of some jams with at em balls. Big Papi rolled into a DP on a rocket. Walks, ridiculous pitch counts...there really was nothing to be encouraged about, except for maybe the strikeouts. Next man up. I really thought he had a chance this season. But he wet the bed in spring training, and last night looked like 2014 all over again. I hope Gonzalez can do something, because that spot, as good as this team has been, has been about as awful as Matt Cain.

QUOTE (South Sider @ May 6, 2016 -> 10:14 AM) I know he luckily escaped a few jams but lost in all of this is that he did give the team a chance to win that game. For a 5th starter in the AL, that's really all I can ask for. If the Sox had converted on their several opportunities perhaps we'd have seen a different outcome. In a tie game or Sox lead, you don't see Jennings throwing 40+ pitches. Nonetheless, he's back to Charlotte so there must have either been something the Sox didn't like, or a strategic reason for the move. I guess we will see. If the exact same thing happened to John Danks, it would be a marathon of DFA posts. I thought EJ had a chance, but he was awful last night. They were hitting rockets everywhere. Unless they fanned, they hit it hard.

QUOTE (greg775 @ May 5, 2016 -> 11:41 PM) Uh oh in a politically correct charged environment like soxtalk that is a risque joke. I can't believe people are jumping on me for not being crazy about standing in line and eating next to some guy in a dress and heels. The guy is not pulling off well being a woman and I'm not all that interested in being around somebody who is making me uncomfortable at dinnertime. If you had a kid or a family member or a close friend decide he wanted to live as a woman, would you cut ties? Being afraid to stand in line behind someone is really kind of out there. If the guy hadn't bathed in a week and really smelled, I could see where you wouldn't want to be around that while ordering a sandwich. Or if he or she was doing disgusting things. But wearing a dress? You need to buck up.

QUOTE (lostfan @ May 6, 2016 -> 09:08 AM) You could see the look of disappointment on his face when Ventura came out to get him last night in the 5th, like "well, I guess that's that." The guy was at Soxfest talking about his routine. It was cool and very strange all at the same time. He seems like a very robotic individual. It was cool he seemed very confident in his routine, and praised White Sox coaches for helping him out, but he would always go back to his routine like he was a telemarketer reading from a script.

In a way, the Sox set Johnson up to fail. He did strike out a few, but they were hitting rockets off him all night. The way they have jerked him around, and obviously he has something to do with it, isn't exactly going to make him really confident on the mound, but it it's obvious to a lot of us, it has to be obvious to him, the White Sox don't think much of his ability to be effective. It is sort of like what they were with Santiago. You know they don't trust him and won't trust him. It seems like they want him to do well enough another team would give them something they considered more desirable for him. That doesn't look like it will happen, but it seems to be a lock, he'll be a trade throw in soon. So far, as bad as Danks was this year, the 2 replacements have been worse. That won't continue. I expect Gonzalez to get at least a 3 or 4 game audition. If it's bad, Turner is next. I'm sure they wouldn't mind Fulmer being ready in a month or so, but you are going to run into an innings problem with him if he is. Still 19-10. There is room for some experiments.

QUOTE (Real @ May 5, 2016 -> 08:15 PM) It'd be nice to win a game when one of the gas cans is spilling itself all over the mound They did with Gonzalez. So far the 2 guys replacing Danks have been worse