Dick Allen

QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 11, 2015 -> 12:49 PM) Wouldn't be that shocking if Cubs were going after Jose Fernandez this entire time. Soler/Baez/Contreras/Hendricks/Torres could easily get it done. Doubt it. Morosi on MLB network mentioned 4 of those guys in a package, and Heyman said it wouldn't rent him for a week.

He had been working out with Barry Bonds.

QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Dec 11, 2015 -> 12:25 PM) And they now have an expendable Soler to trade for one. It amazes me the value Soler seems to have around the league. He isn't much of an upgrade from Avi, and supposedly can't hit breaking pitches at all.

It is funny that Witenmeyer is the guy reporting this. A year ago he was crying how bleak it was for the Cubs, especially financially. That the banks told Ricketts to sell. Now, they are spending wildly. There are no excuses now. The greatest players, the greatest manager, Theo....it will be sweet when it all falls apart.

If the Cubs young guys turn out half as decent as everyone thinks, they are going to have a Dodgers payroll in a few seasons.

QUOTE (The Gooch @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 04:30 PM) On the radio today, a caller called in to 670 and compared Hoiberg to Trestman. He is nowhere near that level. It is the GarPax arrogance that chaps my ass. They act like they have done their job putting together a championship roster, and pin the lack of a trophy on the coach. Then prop up the Mayor as the savior, when they bring back the same roster except Nazr is gone and Portis gets to sit on the bench and watch games. And the results are the same or worse. This isn't a roster getting used to playing with each other. Coaching obviously wasn't the problem, and it probably isn't a problem now. You need the horses,a nod they are so afraid to change it up even when it is obvious they are short.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 12:31 PM) That wasn't a "he needs a day off", that was a "he's not listening to the coaches" benching, hence why he gave that response. The talk at the time was it was about defensive positioning, the staff wanting him to play farther in and him not listening. If it gets to the point where "coaching staff has to bench you" for an attitude problem...guess what, there's an attitude issue implied by "benched for not listening to the coaches". You are really reaching. Does Chris Sale have attitude issues? He got into a screaming match with KW when the were going to make him a full time closer. He got into a screaming match with Ventura when Robin told him to give the Victor Martinez spying a rest. If they don't like where he is set up, they can always motion him to move in from the dugout. It actually happens all the time.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 12:22 PM) I kinda feel embarrassed that I actually have to explain this one....forcing the coaching staff to actually bench you maybe was what I was going for? You should be embarrassed but for another reason. That being you posted that article as exhibit A of attitude issues . What does sitting down a few innings have to do with attitude?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 12:04 PM) Like when they benched him this summer? That's an attitude problem? I think that is a reach. I hope the White Sox get guys who want to play and aren't too pleased when they are sitting. You know we could get Adam Eaton from the White Sox but he's not worth the trouble. He has a bad attitude. He isn't happy when he doesn't play.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 11:43 AM) Worth noting though that we're still hearing "attitude issues" with Eaton even 2 years in. Really? Do you have any links?

QUOTE (flavum @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 10:56 AM) Would you go Fulmer plus the infielder (Rondon or others) for Frazier and the Comp A pick? Reds got the first comp pick in the lottery. Didn't Rondon have an Adam Dunn without the walks and homers year offensively in A ball? He would be no loss, but the White Sox need to hang on to Fulmer. No reason to trade him unless it is franchise changing, which Frazier is not.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 09:14 AM) Feel like that sucks for him. Usually be happy you get drafted here, but with how the Sox have handled Smith (and they seem to like him a lot), I don't see it being a good thing for his career. He gets to spend a year in the Show. If he can't he can come right back.

GarPax need t be considered the Executives of the Year in the NBA. Their clear vision that the reason the Bulls were falling short was a guy many were fooled into believing was a good coach was really incredible. Who would have thought bringing back an almost identical roster would result in so much better results just by swapping out a coach who fooled people into believing he had a clue? He ran Jimmy Butler into the ground. The Mayor has him playing an entire minute less per game now. That will probably extend his effectiveness in his career at least a few seasons. God bless GarPax. They have it all figured out.

What a dud of a Winter meetings for White Sox fans. Hopefully they will make some moves soon. Get some buzz going.

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 03:58 PM) Then in 2 years we make a trade with Arizona and replenish our team. All their prospects will be gone. GMs are lining up outside Dave Stewart's suite.

QUOTE (Real @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 03:58 PM) Lots of guys are drafted out of HS. Players mature. Milwaukee traded him when he was 20 years old. And he was hot stuff. Perhaps he has been humbled. He seems like a workout nut as well.

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 03:51 PM) For what its worth I just got off the phone with the former assistant GM for the Helena Brewers. Milwaukee was the team the originally drafted Lawrie and he was supposed to be assigned there. He held out and wound up missing the entire Pioneer League season He said flat out the guy is a "head case" (direct quote) and that's why the Brewers got rid of him so quickly. Mark 20 year old head cases who hit .285/.346/.451 in AA

QUOTE (Flash Tizzle @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 03:43 PM) I sure as hell hope not. Murphy is going to get a 4-5 year deal somewhere, hopefully not for the White Sox They were showing him try to play 2B on TV the other night. He makes Micah look solid. He can hit. Don't think the power is what it was vs. the Cubs (bless his heart).

I just hope we don't get the yearly quote from KW about the huge game changer that was so close.

The nets will pay for themselves with alll the bats that will be saved from going into the stands.

QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 03:24 PM) I like Anderson as a prospect more than most, but he's not a "can't miss" type guy. If he has that much value right now, I don't mind cashing him in. He's not can't miss, but he is getting closer, and he plays a position of need. If Saladino showed he would be a decent hitter, I could see trading him, but no matter what, if they do trade him and he turns out to be a good player, KW is going to be called a lot of names. The White Sox need to add young talent, not subtract it. Frazier is probably a 2 year thing. Then what?

The problem is the White Sox don't want to give up their best prospects so Frazier won't be a White Sox. At some point, assuming he just doesn't fall apart, some team will give Cincinatti Tim Anderson's equal or better. The White Sox really aren't in a position to do that.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 03:05 PM) So, about that Brett Lawrie guy. Wonder if this is gonna get done, or we give up more for Frazier. I don't think the White Sox will trade for Frazier. I don't think the price tag comes down low enough. Either they are trying to get something that will go with the Lawrie trade, or they are trying to lower the price tag. That is my opinion.

Why do they call them the Winter Meetings when it isn't yet Winter. And why is it called spring training when the vast majority of the training isn't in the Spring?

QUOTE (peppers312 @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 02:54 PM) how many of those HR's were hit when it mattered? A few. I seem to remember one in 2008, game 163. You were wrong. Just walk away from it. You are digging a bigger hole.