Dick Allen

QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Dec 30, 2015 -> 07:12 PM) I think all this did was confirm most people's suspicions. Why wouldn't the idiot just delete his old tweets? White Sox and Cespedes agree to 6 year deal worth $125-135 million. Just be patient, to talks break down because Ceapedes wants 6 years Sox offering 5. If there are people as dumb as him who think at least someone will buy what he is saying and still think he is all sourced up, I suppose there must be someone dumb enough to make that a reality.

QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Dec 30, 2015 -> 07:07 PM) @PatrickHoward50 "Hearing talks broke down because Yoenis Cespedes wants a 6-year deal, while White Sox only want to offer 5. Upton out of picture. (Pt. 1)." "White Sox still prefer Cespedes, may circle back to Alex Gordon if K.C. offer is low. White Sox willing to add 5th year to Gordon contract." ...So, I think that says all it does needs to about that whole saga in terms of his tweets last night. Totally contradicts what he said was agreed upon yesterday. Are there people that will actually believe what he says?

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Dec 30, 2015 -> 03:09 PM) we should go back and review chaveztalk.com bonerman69 would be a twitter insider fraud

It it is true, this entire thread is a waste of time.

The trade off to me is for a possible year or two of worth the money production, you don't have to pay for at least as many years, if not more, of decline. I would give all these 30 year old and over free agents an opt out.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Dec 30, 2015 -> 02:53 PM) But in this scenario it's the Dodgers and their seemingly unlimited amount of money and that can absorb the hit of him picking up his option. Supposedly they were in the process of chopping about $100 million from the payroll.

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Dec 30, 2015 -> 02:46 PM) Unless he underperforms and then doesn't opt out (Vernon Wells). Yes it can help out a team, like what happened with Belle and the Sox, but it still favors the player more than the team. Technically yes. But unless you can't live without him, if he is opting out, you get productive years and let some other team pay him even more for the decline. The thing is, even without an opt out, you are going to have to guarantee what should be declining seasons. How many $16 million a year years does a guy like Kazmir have in him? It's probably less than 3. If the Dodgers get one, I'm sure they will be happy.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 30, 2015 -> 02:46 PM) IF he opts out. It is the worst of both worlds. A guy who outperforms you either have to pay more to, or let go. A guy who sucks, you are stuck with. Ask the Yankees if they would have re-sgned ARod and CC Sabathia if they had a re do. Even the Marlins were bragging about how they will never pay Stanton anywhere near $300 million. They fully expect him to opt out, and they will either trade him or let him walk.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Dec 30, 2015 -> 02:44 PM) I like it from a team's standpoint. You don't have to pay a guy in his possible declining years and not be tied up into bad money. Yes. You get really motivated years, and an out for when they get older. The problem is,teams haven't used their built in escape clause, signed them to another long term deal and regretted it.

$16 million a year for Scott Kazmir. OK then.

Rick Hahn is not cold blooded.

The NL version of ALL.THE.LEFTIES.

QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Dec 30, 2015 -> 01:26 PM) White Sox can make this move happen if they want & I think they do. As we all know, more goes into a contract than just a set year & dollar amount. I have no doubt that they are close with one of them, it's just a matter of waiting & the fluidity of the situation. We've seen how things can quickly go from "quiet" to a move. Greinke was signed 5 hours after the initial contact for over $200 million. If the Sox are close great. I'm sure the players would feel better about being signed. They are working out getting ready for the season. What happens if they pull a Victor Martinez and get hurt before they sign? SOL. It probably depends on how many teams they have in, maybe a team or two is trying to move some money or players.

QUOTE (shipps @ Dec 30, 2015 -> 01:20 PM) I read into what Merkins says... by thinking about why are they feeding him THAT to say to the public? I think if they tell him anything it is to try to temper any expectation. If Merkin or Hayes say they think a Cespedes or Gordon signing was imminent, people would believe the White Sox told them that. I don't think they have much more information regarding these possible signings than you or me.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Dec 30, 2015 -> 01:14 PM) And he quickly had to acknowledge the Tanaka offer was $100M+ after getting called out, so I would certaintly take anthing he says with a huge grain of salt. Hell, he even said his assumption was pure speculation and had no insider info to base his claim on. There is no doubt in my mind the Sox would go over $100M for the right player. It's like the gloom and doomers here who told us the Sox had no money to spend last offseason, and then told us again this year, they spent it all last year, there is little they can do. Maybe if the Sox get one of these guys they will quit telling us about the dire financial state of the White Sox. They brought Samardzija in, the plan was to re-sign him. That requires money. They appear to be re-allocating that money and a bit more to an OF.

Yes, the CSN and MLB.com beat writers rarely get an offseason scoop. During the season they get them because of clubhouse access. They can see a locker cleaned out, etc. Right now, Hayes and Merkin are like teachers in the summer. On vacation. They will write an occasional fluff piece, but nothing serious for a couple of months.

QUOTE (blackmooncreeping @ Dec 30, 2015 -> 01:08 PM) If the Sox truly aren't going over 100 million, then they stand a good chance of not getting anyone. I really think Gordon is going to stay in KC if the Royals come in anywhere near the top offer. And I don't see Cespedes/Upton signing for less than 100 million. It's Merkin. He doesn't know, he's guessing.

There's always Jerry Sands.

QUOTE (pittshoganerkoff @ Dec 30, 2015 -> 12:03 PM) I wonder if the players and GMs look at Twitter and laugh their asses off at all of this. Hahn commented a few weeks ago how he couldn't believe some of the stuff that was out there, and some of the actual stuff that wasn't out there. Of course, he and his fellow MLB people have a lot to do with that. And with social media now, there are thousands upon thousands of fake reporters.

QUOTE (knightni @ Dec 30, 2015 -> 11:51 AM) The guy is from Northwest Indiana. Well then....when's the press conference?

If a random guy on the twitter is willing to stake his reputation on it, this must be a done deal.

Hasn't Duensing been worse than Jennings the past couple of years? Replace guys with worse guys....because. That sounds like a great plan. The fascination some have with other teams' garbage has always intrigued me.

I think Gordon is better, less risky, and cheaper. Cespedes could have numbers Gordon couldn't touch, but overall he isn't as good as he was with the the Mets. Either is a gigantic upgrade, so I wouldn't be upset if Cespedes is a White Sox.

QUOTE (TheCut87 @ Dec 29, 2015 -> 08:56 PM) Yeah I don't think it was a coincidence he threw latos name out on the same day someone here saw a tweet about him... There was a guy on Sportstslk live that said he read a tweet about Latos to the Sox this afternoon.

QUOTE (Alexeihyeess @ Dec 29, 2015 -> 07:24 PM) Well he already did bet his reputation when he put this on Twitter as if it were fact. When he could just delete it and have it go away, or might just be playing games with people, he is just an unknown that has no reputation to lose. He might have something, and he may just be an asshole bro laughing at those he is getting excited.