Harry Chappas

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Sep 12, 2007 -> 03:26 PM) Would anyone be against the Sox trying to trade for Hall and moving him back to SS? He's coming off a down season and isn't great defensively but I still think he'd be a superior upgrade over Uribe (and when he's at his best he's a darn good player. I don't know what the Brewers would ask but I'd be all for it. He refused a long term deal had a great year got the longe term deal and now he is wetting the bed. I am not sure how much he is signed for but it may not be a bad idea if the contract price is low enough....Contrearas????

7-4 let's see if Derrick Turnbow can get himself out of it. I think Estrada may have had the right idea.

QUOTE(fathom @ Sep 12, 2007 -> 02:08 PM) I can't f***ing stand Ned Yost. How in the hell does he let Jenkins face the lefty out of the bullpen? Grabow is much tougher on lefties, and Jenkins hits only .233 against LHP. Does Yost not know he has an expanded roster? The Brewers deserve to lose this game after that atrocious managing in the 8th inning. Ned Yost should really be fired he makes Guillen look like Casey Stengal. Bill Hall is bad Turnbow walks two, in the top of the inning Tracy saw his guy couldn't throw a strike and he pulled him. Yost left his guy out there to give up the run and most likely cost him the game. Is this guy choking in the pennnant run or what . wow

I didn't realize Marte was having that good of a season. Looking at the schedule, the Brewers need to beat the bad teams. Corey Hart super clutch there and they need to bring him home.

The White Sox mailed this season in around the end of June. Despite the popular notion that they were competing to win, I call bulls***. The minute Erstad and Podsednik got hurt the Sox should have been on the phone to try and get Loften type stop gap if they were serious. Any analysis of this season in my eyes in realtion to veteran players ended about that time. They realized they had nothing to play for. In April the notion was that Cleveland, Minnesota and Detroit were all going ot win 90 games. First off, that is almost statistically impossible secondly those teams had and still have some major holes as well. Maybe not as large as the White Sox but there are bullpen issues, positional issues and rotation issues with each. While Bonderman, Miller and Verlander were annointed the roation of the future, two of three have spent time on the DL. Cliff Lee and Westbrook are not the pitchers they were believed to be (see Steve Phillips on this) and who knows how Lariano will come back. That is something the Sox rotation has had only happen once in three years and that was Contrearas last season for a couple of weeks. The proven health and track record of the rotation is a strength not many GM's can rely on that KW can going into the offseason. This heatlth extends deep into the minors in regard to starting pitching and trading options. Floyd is 24 and has been inconsistent but some team (Pittsburgh, Florida, Washington, Tampa Bay, etc.) can make this trade as pointed out earlier. Teams like the Braves are out of contention in a National League that is disgustingly bad. The Braves put out a couple pitchers this season that were worse than Floyd, as have the Cardinals. At 24 he has the upside and injury history that teams will bank on as oppossed to signing Kip Wells to a $5M/yr deal or somethign like that. I guess the rose colored glasses may be in place but i am not going ot write this team off for next year as I think they need a bench coach, Hall to get healthy and an infusion of some middle of the road talent to get back into it as I think the AL Central will come back to them a little.

I put Floyd and Danks in the same category. I am not exactly sold on Danks or Floyd neither has electric stuff but if they throw strikes and learn how to work hitters they could be 3/4 guys. The begining of their careers mirror that of Jon Garland who is a 3/4 guy. I find it amazing how people will give up so easily on 24 year pitchers. I could see if there were health issues but he appears to be a guy that can give you innings.

Ankiel 2 K's already today. Maybe his mental state is so fragile that this could put him away for good. To bad kind of, he certainly made a splash as a hitter and pitcher. Of cousre I could care less just that he could help knock the cub out of contention with a good week here.

Who was on the better end of these deals? I'd give them credit if they released this guys to make a point but they traded them away and got equal return. Glaus was a salary dump and they got a pretty good return in Hudson. Wasn't Grimsley still active on their roster when he was arrested?

QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Sep 7, 2007 -> 12:03 PM) Uh, we were brilliant early in 06/05. We've been cruddy late. I agree that we need to change many ST things, but "they have struggled early" doesn't sound right, per se. They struggled early this year but I'd say they did more than struggle early. They met the expectations that many, many people, from BP to people here, set for them. They actually didn't struggle until late May when Erstad got hurt/cub series. Weren't they 7 over at the time due to the lights out bullpen and starters? The polar opposite to the JM days.

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Sep 6, 2007 -> 04:07 PM) Andre Ethier, you are my hero sir. Typical Cubbie September loss, what a kick in the balls. Outstanding. Reading the gamecast it sounds like the 9th of that game was as badly played by the defense. Looked like one ball was hit hard, the homer which could have been wind aided

Maroth sucks and the Lowe was done and should not have pitched in the 7th. Really bad managing by the Dodgers there.

Dodgers have 1st and 2nd two out and Lowe at 87 pitches coming up. They have steller pen and let him hit after Marquis looked hittable for that inning.......the nthe cub has two lefties to start he bottom of the inning. Am I over simplifying managing but asking why not ph for Lowe? Maroth wiggled out of the first and the Cards look to be hitting today. Could ease the defensive crap put out there by the White Sox.

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Sep 6, 2007 -> 02:57 PM) That 9th inning was laughable. I can't really blame Jenks, because if Richar and Cintron can both make plays that were merely slightly tougher than average, we win the game. Ah well, doesn't matter though, but it's a shame we wasted another great Buehrle outing. This game is what the Sox need the blown save was becasue the defense sucks and shows Cintron is not an MLB player. Konerko and Thome with a clutch hits, good bullpen stuff from those that have a future and a loss to get closer to the number onme pick. OK with me.

Luis Gonzalez swung and fouled two straight fastballs down the middle and looked at a third. The NL is a god damn'ed embarrasment.

QUOTE(SoxAce @ Sep 6, 2007 -> 02:49 PM) They better be unearned. On Gameday, it's two earned for Bobby. I believe Timo was a hit and an error hence they are both earned.

I like Polanco and the Sox were looking for a secondbaseman at the time he was moved. Did the Tigers have to give anything up for him?

Furcal has seen 7 pitches in 3 at-bats. Sounds like a Sox lead-off man to me.

Cintron sucks.

2 strike bunt, nice job. F it walk Casey to set up the DP.

I think Wasserman will serve a purpose for next year as the motion and control get you. Remember Bradford in October of 2000. He looked like Wasserman then and Jerry put way to much faith in him at the wrong time...oh memory lane. Let Wasserman pitch until the league figures him out. We should have swept this series. Oh Timo.

Did Guillen, Ozzie punch Walkvich after facing his one batter?

Gameday has an injury delay at the start of the cub any idea what that is about. Jason Marquis is not a good pitcher yet teams can not hit him consistently and he has a perfect game going. Anywho, the offense for the White Sox is pathetic, like that's news but I agree that any arms that may be on this team next season and are on the 40 man should be up here now. Guys like Masset and Sisco know they sucked and the promotion has nothing to do with them be awarded anything. This sounds a little like cutting off your nose to spite your face. Garland, Buerhle, and Vazquez should be shut down. Konerko, Thome and AJ should play every other day or against teams still in it. Jenks should also be shut down although he needs some stat padding. They need to find out who can do what because the judgement calls they make as an organization are not that good.

The fundamentals area has done more to attract younger fans than anything INCLUDING WINNING THE WORLD SERIES. I am a pretty sentimental person but to compare 2007 Comiskey Park to 1994 is as disillusional as possible. Although I think Wrigley is a dump and terrible place to watch a game for over 75% of the fans so what do I know.

QUOTE(Whitewashed in '05 @ Sep 1, 2007 -> 12:15 PM) I don't know if I was the only one to catch it, but after the no no was broken up one of the commentators said "I never liked him anyway". My wife said she heard the same thing. I did not notice but I was only half paying attention. Was Baker part of the Nomar deal? If not , who did the cub give up to Minnesota?

If this team was trying to win now Erstad and Podsednik would play every day and Fields would be at third, Iguchi at second and Mackowiak on the bench. The fact that this not happening shows this is a try out for next year. Why Guillen is ranting about it is the question. Who cares the season is over what the f*** is the point of b****ing and moaning about it?