Harry Chappas

QUOTE(gosox41 @ Jan 13, 2008 -> 10:33 PM) Long term this isn't a great trade for the Cubs, but for a team going for it now, I'd seriously have to consider throwing in Pie to get a guy like Roberts. Bob Who plays CF for the cub if they trade Pie? Fukodome? Resign Patterson? An outfield of Soriano, Fukodome and Ward...... I am really not sure how much better the cubs are this season and the NL has really improved. Any learning curve for Fukodome and they could be in trouble.

Can anyone help get me two for Friday I'll pay decent money for them.

Colon on a one year deal with a club option would be a wise move if the team is going for it next year. Let Danks move to AAA and gain some seasoning. He is also prime to fill in for a guy to hit the DL or replace Floyd if he bombs. Floyd will be in the rotation at the end of spring as he is out of options. If he embarasses himself in April he can be sent down as teams will already have had their guys in place for a month and are less likely take a flyer on him than before the season. Colon is notorious for holding back and not going all out. He seems like the kind of guy that will throw 85-90 through the end of August and then throw 93-97 for the month of September.

I think Hill is overrated but he is better than Roberts. I also think Pie will be no better than Brian Anderson. Pie has failed as much if not more than Anderson IMHO. Without Hill that rotation would be an utter disaster although in that pathetic division it may still be enough to get eliminated in the first round once again.

This move would make the NL a whole lot stronger considering the strength of the NL West. The NL Central may not have a team over.500 as I do not think a single one would be over .450 playing outside of the division. The landscape of baseball is odd in that teams are focusing on youth yet there are teams giving up half a farm system for one player.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Jan 10, 2008 -> 09:12 AM) Why Deluca+ is a moron. Maybe Chris should consult the Billy Beane guide to stealing, or the stay on first and never steal manual. Just because a guy doesnt steal in Oakland, doesnt mean he is slow. The only slow one here, is Chris. Why Chris Deluca is not so smart. Only in the world of Jay Mariotti journalism is it better to be a part of a fictious deal rather than up the ante and be outbid for a real deal. By being a part of the the moves noted below, teams paid higher prices that they would have had the Sox not been involved. The cub has made one move this offseason and are now tied to Roberts which they may haveto overpay. The Sox were major players for Fukodome, Hunter and Cabrerra and ended up with a better move (Swisher) in the end I beleive. Maybe it isn't the glamorous over bidding mortgage busting move but I think it is better. They also picked up a gold glove shortstop and possible back of the bullpen guy...... Yep sounds like the cub has had a much more productive offseason. Chris deluca, Carol Slezak and Moronitti really have no business writing about sports as they really do not absorb the reality of sports nor do they understand the environment of sports. I bet they all sit around and pretend they are Ray Romano and simply write something that looks good on their compuiter screen. That article is wrong on so many levels.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Jan 10, 2008 -> 10:21 AM) Non confrontational question here. Just curious. How do we know Clemens didn't call the kid? I don't

QUOTE(shipps @ Jan 9, 2008 -> 07:08 PM) Well he did email Clemens to call his son.But I dont believe his son was living at the same place as his son.But everyone has caller id and he could have seen when it was Clemens and set the record.Pretty concievable this day and age. That was how I understood it. McNamee left a message asking Clemens to call his very ill son as his son loved Clemens. Clemens did not call his son and instead tried to bait McNamee. I also believed that McNamee and his son are not in the same place so a call to his son would be contacted by McNamee. Nobody is even saying how s***ty it is that he not call the sick kid that has nothing to do with Clemens who Clemens knew and instead tried to set up McNamee. This whole thing starting to set Clemens up for disaster as it appeared that McNamee really felt bad for doing what he had to stay out of jail and Clemens is starting ot look liek a real jag off.......I wonder if McNamee ahs some real evidence against Clemens. You notice Bonds never pissed on Anderson's Cheerios and Anderson went to jail for him. McNamee has the cards in this thing if he has some good stuff and as Pratt has stated, he could turn Clemens into Pete Rose.

QUOTE(The Critic @ Jan 9, 2008 -> 11:06 AM) Trading Marshall pretty much locks either Dempster or Marquis into a rotation spot, doesn't it? THAT ain't good for them. Plus, Soriano seems to have a mental problem about batting anywhere but leadoff, so how would he adjust to that? Doesn't trading Marshall force Marquis AND Dempster into the rotation and deplete their farm system. Who am I missing? Zambrano-Lilly-Hill...... That offense will be good but the rotation could be really bad. The sad thing is that Marshall and Gallagher are not worth Gio Gonzalez alone and Cedano is nothing.

Can Joe Crede be sent to the minors? I only ask this as the White Sox have two players who can only play third. If at the end of spring training only one can be sent down, can Joe Crede be sent down without it counting toward free agency (ala Mark Prior last spring)? Then could he be broought up in June or July or be traded to another team and not have free agency status after the 2008 season? I know this is an expensive AAA player and on a personal level a s*** thing to do but he could be the second best 3B in the organization at the end of spring training if he is not 100%. He then can prove in his healthy at AAA and cost Fields MLB at-bats. If Crede is not healthy he can prove that at AAA.

Per CSN Sportsnite, Pete Meyers is the coach for Wednesday's game and an interim FOR THE THE REMAINDER OF THE SEASON will be named after interviewing the three assistants. If I understood correctly there is no hope for this season. As with all teams Chicago except the cub they will go on the cheap as Skiles as being paid through next season.

I like this move better than overpaying for the other outfielders available. For some reason I think this is and Quintin are going to be things that we talk about as being huge offseason moves. These are the things that KW is good at. Imagine if he went really hard at Brian Roberts and Bartolo Colon........

QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Dec 21, 2007 -> 12:51 PM) The Pedro signing was pretty bold, imo. 4 years for a guy with a lot of questions. Beyond that I'd agree. I guess you could call the Milledge trade bold, if bold means foolish. Minaya is like Mariotti. It is easy to spend other people's money.

He has assembled a great rotation. What exactly has he done?

QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Dec 20, 2007 -> 10:24 PM) That's an exception. That's the exception. In my mind it is the exact same thing. They are the bitterest of rivals due to the fan base. That is why college rivalries are that big. Any rivarly to be a rivalry has to have a dislike for the opponent. The greater the dislike, the greater the rivalry. I think true blue Boston fans hate the Yankees where as Yankee fans only need to point to the fact that there is 100 years of success behind their claim. The cub v. Sox rivalry stems from the fact that the cubs are treated as an elite franchise while up until 3 years ago they went over 30 years without have back to back winnign seasons. The Sox treated as a cheap franchise in the national media nad the cub are a media darlingyet the results do not prove this.

QUOTE(sircaffey @ Dec 20, 2007 -> 11:19 PM) The problem with that thinking is, you can say similar things about a lot of organizations not just the Sox. The Sox just don't have much at all in terms of impact prospects. I don't agree at all. I think Fields and Danks if not rushed would be impact prospects. Floyd is still young and has the stuff. With Floyd and Owens you need the good old rose colored glasses a little bit but there is something there. I hark back to the days of Jason Bere. Not a-lot was thought of him (at least I never heard of him) and he came out and lit it up. DLS and Egbert could be impact by the trading deadline and very expendable depending on what happens in June.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Dec 20, 2007 -> 08:53 PM) None of them would count on any prospect list right now, as they've all had too many AB's/Innings pitched to count as a prospect for anyone. Exactly. Now if Haegar pitches out of the #5 slot all season, the bullpen holds water allowing Floyd and Danks to stay in the minors all season and post a sub 4 ERA, Crede stays healthy and the Sox stay in the race and keep Iguchi to finish the season, where is our minor league system ranked. s*** if Owens plays the whole year down there and puts up a .350 OBP with 60 SB's everyone would be talking how great the farm system was. Guys were rushed and it hurt our BA farm system ranking. The Sox have not drafted high in years and this has hurt the farm system. I understand the sky has fallen and the season is over but I think I will stick around and check it out.

QUOTE(sircaffey @ Dec 20, 2007 -> 04:10 PM) Actually the Sox are 25th on the list. What is the point of your comment? They tend to know a little something about prospects. Where are Danks, Fields, Richar and Floyd on that list?

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Dec 20, 2007 -> 01:29 PM) Yes, he's supposedly 100% NOW after posting a .638 OPS over the final 2 months of the '07 season and a .418 OPS in 33 postseason ABs. But hey 3 years ago he posted an .810 OPS! Excuse me if I'm not excited about giving up young talent for an outfielder who has been terrible for 2 full seasons and the #1 excuse for his s***ty performance is an injury that doesn't seem to go away. Maybe I love Jerry Owens or perhaps I don't think the minimal upgrade from Sweeney/Anderson/Owens to Crisp is worth the talent it would take to bring him here. Edgar Renteria did not seem to like Boston too much. Maybe Crisp will revert back to pre-Boston days. Marginal differences in players cost millions if that marginal difference is consistent for one player to the next (ie you know what you are going to get with Crisp not so much so with Owens). Broadway for him straight up is about as far as they should go.

QUOTE(iamshack @ Dec 20, 2007 -> 09:36 AM) People continue to ignore the fact that he signed here with the knowledge that we were going after Hunter and MCab. Now we have neither. Just as Jermaine Dye was a little miffed, perhaps Buehrle is as well. I don't think it's ridiculous to believe he may welcome a trade to a team which has a more positive outlook than ours. It's probably not the case, but it isn't out of the realm of possibilities either. You honestly believe the Reds are a better organization than the White Sox. I wish people would wake up and realize that some organizations have great prospects because they suck and get good draft picks every year. The Tigers got Cabrerra for two top 10 picks. I know that the Sox do not spend on the draft like they should but they are not getting top ten talent every year. Get Serious.

"Steal" and "Manchild" in the same story talking about future SS made my day.

The offense seems to have regressed to previous years where they can not seem to finish godd scoring opportunities. They also seem to get caught in their own zone at times and struggle to get the puck out. Bulin also seems to be about average right now.

QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Dec 15, 2007 -> 04:17 PM) The Cardinals are smart and realize that their team is in shambles and that without a rebuild, they are going nowhere. Right now, the best comparison to the Sox that I can think of in baseball is the St. Louis Cardinals. It almost appears that they are starting to rebuild. When a stadium is built for you and you draw 3 million fans you do not rebuild. There are many people on this board that feel that rebuilding means a couple of down years and then a pennant contendor. That is not hte case. Do ticket prices fluctuate with the salary that is saved for rebuilding?

QUOTE(fathom @ Dec 15, 2007 -> 01:14 PM) I thought Santana showed some significant signs of slowing down last year in terms of homers allowed and velocity. Not that it matters with the Sox, as they have zero chance of acquiring him in a trade, and if Santana did become a FA, there's no way we'd outbid everyone. I agree with you. I also would like to see his last two seasons numbers against the Sox and against every otehr team. The AL Central could also lose CC after this season could they not? I think these are the reasons this division could really turn quickly.

Have the Cardinals done anything to improve team? Their fans seem to be getting a royal screwing.