JUSTgottaBELIEVE

And that’s why you don’t sign him only. If you’re going to lose the 2nd round pick anyways, go out and sign Alonso and Pivetta as well. The longer these guys push into this year unsigned the much more likely they are to sign for reasonable contracts.

Santander is cheaper than Benintendi in today’s dollars due to the deferrals. Benintendi’s contract if signed today would be worth ~$80M adjusted for inflation. Neither plays good defense but at least Santander can pretend to play RF for a couple years unlike Benintendi and has more power.

I read that with the amount of deferrals in this contract the present day value is approx $70M. I don’t know, doesn’t seem that expensive to lock up a corner LHH OF spot for 4-5 years.

@caulfield12 seems to be taking this news well

Reading is a skill. I reposted my original post so you can read it again. Never definitively stated the Sox will sell for a 25% discount today. I said I wouldn’t be surprised if the valuation/sale price of the franchise drops by 25% from the current level by the time Jerry actually sells with the way he is running the organization into the ground…

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There is no question. Sox would NOT sell at an extreme premium to the current Forbes valuation like you stated. Simple as that.

That’s fair. Today they would sell for $2B, which is exactly in line with the 2024 Forbes valuation, not at an extreme premium.

It’s ok to admit you were wrong…

Yep, they’ve been spot on with the most recent sales

That’s one way of saying you were wrong about your “extreme premiums” statement..

And Cohen bought the Mets for the exact 2020 Forbes valuation so I don’t understand this concept of extreme premiums being paid for mlb franchises. It’s made up.

What extreme premiums are you referring to? Did the Orioles sell at a huge premium?

That’s true. Probably worth about the same today but with the way Jerry is operating this franchise now and for the foreseeable future the Sox are trending down in a hurry. Not to mention the annual operating losses they’ve experienced the last several years.

Could have taken the proceeds from a sale in 2006 and invested in the S&P 500 and seen a similar ROI all while holding a far more liquid asset. And, honestly, with the way things are trending it wouldn’t surprise me if the franchise is worth less than $1.5B by the time they actually sell. Between driving the team into the ground and the RSN overhang now surrounding many teams including the Sox things are pointing down.

When’s the last time they outperformed their projections? 2021?

So they were projected for a little over 20 WAR as a team last year and this year they’re around 17-18? Awesome.

Oh geez, three of the guys I want them to sign from the first list. Oh well. I’d love to see them sign Pivetta and Hays as well but I doubt that’s happening either.

There’s no way they win 81 games in 2026 if they continue shopping in the free agent dollar store.

Unless Bo Bichette bounces back this season, there isn’t a single free agent shortstop I’d give a multi year contract to next winter. And if he does bounce back, he’s probably out of the Sox budget anyways.

What’s the plan for SS for 2026 and beyond if evaluators are right about Colson? One year stop gaps like Paul Dejong every year until maybe someone like Bonemer is ready in 2028?

I don’t want to see Smith and Schultz on the Sox until late April 2026. They can get all the mlb experience they need in 2026 in what will be another 100 loss season. No need for them to see mlb this year.

I can’t argue that

I lose more and more interest each year with Jerry as owner. I have zero expectations for this franchise winning a pennant until he’s gone.

Yea, yikes. Elias even sounding like Hahn now too.