JUSTgottaBELIEVE

Manaea was good last year and a part of the Mets advancing to the NLCS. Not sure I’d call that a waste.

This team isn’t going anywhere next year without signing significant free agents, which we know won’t happen. They’ll be lucky to win 70 games in 2026.

I’ve been told Taylor is going to be a starter anyways so I guess it doesn’t matter. Sox bullpen has been atrocious since Hendriks was diagnosed with non-Hodgkin’s. A consistently dominant closer can do a lot for a bullpen.

Maybe but talking about him like he’s a proven, reliable mlb closer is ridiculous

We talking about the same grant taylor with a 5.05 ERA this season and an extensive injury history?

One is Teel though

I’ll take playoffs at this point

Exactly! Not stars, just a bunch of really solid players like Meidroth and Teel!

Um, Meidroth is a 2.1 fWAR player right now in a partial season. Teel is at 2.0 with far less playing time. You’re a smart guy. Do the math and tell me what those project out to over a full season. Again, I’m not saying they are a lock to repeat these production rates next season and beyond but if they do it’s a huge win of a trade.

Sox don’t need all 4 guys to pan out for it to be a huge win. Look, Crochet is already an established top 3 SP but if Teel is a top 3 catcher and Meidroth is a top 5 second baseman (both would project as such or very close to over a full season based on their production so far this season) that’s a great outcome for the Sox on a production level alone. Then you factor in their years of cheap control/surplus value and it’s a huge win.

Haven’t the Brewers disproved the notion you need star players to win?

If Teel is a 5 WAR player and Meidroth is a 3 WAR player both on league minimum salaries for the next few years, yes it is a huge win and greater surplus value than Crochet on his contract no matter how great Crochet is.

Meidroth and Teel have combined to play 181 games, a little more than a full season. Getting 4.1 WAR out of them for a little over a full season combined in their rookie year is a tremendous outcome. Now the question is can they build off that in coming years? If so, the Crochet trade is a huge win even if Braden Montgomery amounts to nothing.

Gotta go 6-5 to finish the season to avoid 100 losses.

They’d still suck. Garbage bullpen and offense rated 2nd to last place in MLB by fWAR.

It appears opposing GMs made the right decision in choosing Bader and Mullins over Robert. Both are outhitting Robert since the deadline and both are actually still available to play.

Yes

This, my friend, is what I have been calling the sunk cost fallacy. Best move is to move on. If they don’t, eventually they will be forced to regardless.

Which I’ve been saying for months and was ridiculed by some for taking this stance. I mean, wasn’t it obvious to everyone else? Certainly wasn’t obvious to Getz - scary.

To the last part, why does Stearns get all this credit and not Doug Melvin? Melvin’s role in turning the Brewers into a perennial playoff contender when they were a perennial doormat prior to his arrival is much more impressive than anything Stearns did imo. And again, Getz has sucked in his own right so this isn’t a pro-Getz post. Getz is tasked with doing what Melvin did two decades prior, and I highly doubt he’s the guy to successfully do it.

On pace for a 105 loss season. 16 game improvement from last season. Even if they duplicate that improvement next season (which is far from a given), they’re still an 89 loss team!!

It’s all suck. Major suckage. There’s no end to the suck until they get a new owner and new GM running the show.

A .400 win % equates to a 97 loss season. That’s awful. Without significant offseason signings, this team is most certainly a bottom 5 team in MLB next year for a 4th season straight..

Impressive. I think they have a great shot of 400 losses across 4 seasons. And people wonder why I turned negative on this club. They’re testing uncharted territory levels of futility.

On pace for 105 losses now. They’d need to go 18-17 from here on out to avoid 100 losses again. Seems highly doubtful to me.