Texsox

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2007/1....stuck.suv.wpxi

Warning: Not THAT Randy Moss http://www.wsmv.com/news/14351455/detail.html Gee, a cop gave a pass to a porn star in exchange for oral sex. I'm shocked!

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/law/10/16/nevad...n.ap/index.html I think it comes down to this, is there a way to kill someone that is usual? When killing someone becomes usual, we lose some humanity. I believe we should value all human life, even low life garbage like this monster.

My vote for worst popular song of all time.

QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Oct 16, 2007 -> 12:06 PM) My biggest question is, Do you have to remain in the middle class to be considered a part of the middle class? I mean, the easy answer is, "Yes." It's not like you, say, fall out of the upper class and people still refer to you as upper class because of who you used to be, but I think it's different with someone like Bill Clinton or Ronald Reagan who grew up with dumps for fathers and no money at all in rural parts of the country with no external advantages in life. What defines someone as "middle class"? Income? Values? Birthright? Childhood? Early jobs? Perhaps we need an operational definition of "middle class" if this discussion is to go anywhere valuable. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_middle_class has a nice start. I was looking forward to SS developing his comment. I think it says a lot about America and he has some great ideas on campaign financing. Possible he can be lured back into a conversation.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Oct 16, 2007 -> 09:35 AM) These guys are not "Republicans", they have long abandoned the issues that made them Republicans. Like a balanced budget?

It seems that many people here like to point to media bias, and usually conservatives. I'm surprised you would think it is a dead horse. Are you meaning that the issue is dead and there is no media bias? Or perhaps there is nothing that can be done? Once the media is rendered worthless we lose one of our greatest protections to government wrongdoing. I certainly do not have the time to attend every meeting, I doubt anyone does. I believe the fourth estate is too important to allow to fail in their mission to shine sunshine on government actions. And on this path, it will. A journalism industry with zero credibility is worse than none at all.

QUOTE(Jenksismyb**** @ Oct 16, 2007 -> 10:35 AM) Wasn't Carter middle-class? He had a pretty successful agriculture business. IIRC It frightens me but I see Pratt's point. Both seem to believe we'll never pluck someone from middleclassville and elect them President. It seems that SS is pointing to the money to run a campaign and Pratt is pointing out that the positions we believe are valuable (even necessary) would carry the successful candidate past middle class. I think it could be a very interesting discussion on the levels of economic success a candidate should have achieved in their life and the kinds of middle class professions that could qualify someone for the Presidency. I'm wondering if a Scientist or Professor could build the following necessary.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Oct 16, 2007 -> 07:38 AM) Stop me if you'v heard this one before... Once you believe, it's everywhere, now I know why conservatives always have their undies in a bunch. I could see it if the pictures rotated some how. But it was static. Each time I visited there they were. That's not accidental. None of the top four GOPers are mentioned on the front page? GMAB

QUOTE(mr_genius @ Oct 15, 2007 -> 08:58 PM) sarcasm? What possible justification is there for giving the two top Dems front page placement and right below have two also rans? Clearly Rudy, Thompson, Romney, and McCain would have been better representatives, not a couple pack fillers.

Actually anything close to embracing immigrants is avoided in this election. Especially if they are from south of the border.

Obama still getting smeared

Wow More at link. Worth it

QUOTE(mr_genius @ Oct 15, 2007 -> 04:04 PM) ^^^^^ racist anti-beardist! and yes, I am saying people with beards are a completely different race. nice.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/...er-immigration/

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/...es-46k-on-ebay/ Lots of money heading to charity

Linked http://www.cnn.com/POLITICS/ What a bunch of b.s. Meet the Candidates for the Dems Obama and Clinton for the GOP? Hunter and Brownback. If that aint a clear example of bias, I don't know what is. Two top Dems and two also rans for the Reps.

Linkage SFW

QUOTE(Rex Kicka** @ Oct 15, 2007 -> 03:59 PM) I think there's a big difference between posting viral videos about Presidential Campaign issues and growing a beard. There might be something to this, IMO. Yep, the public will talk about his beard and pundits will debate if it makes him more electable I hate the people who vote in this country.

It could also be over one billion population AND a nuclear bomb? You know, just off the top of my head.

QUOTE(Alpha Dog @ Oct 15, 2007 -> 03:35 PM) You know, mexico has cheap labor, land for agriculture AND oil, which is one more thing than China has. How come China is a world power and Mexico is a cesspool of corruption whose biggest source of income is American dollars sent in from the US? At least the dollars going into China are for goods produces, then exported. Imagine China if they had the oil that Mexico has! We would be bowing to our Chinese overlords instead of our Muslim ones. Because Communism works in some cases?

I believe this is a good thing for Romney

IIRC it was during the early 70s when foreign banks were demanding payments on US debt. Nixon made a number of changes that caused problems. I'm certain Kap or SS could fill in the blanks if they are reading this thread.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Oct 15, 2007 -> 11:41 AM) The evil misquoter rides again