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Roberto Clemente was one of my childhood heroes. Dye is the White Sox nominee for the Clemente Award

If Thome swings, they better pitch run for him

Time to rest Thome. Call it a day, grab a hot tub commercial interuption The Top 5 Sports Euphemisms for Death 5> Took a congratulatory phone call from President Taft 4> Jockeying for position in the dirt derby 3> Went to see the fat lady in concert 2> Created an opening on shuffleboard court three and Topfive.com's Number 1 Sports Euphemism for Death... 1> *Really* stuck her dismount

f*** that was hit a loooooooooong way MVP MVP MVP

Nice play by the pitcher, how about going in hard to second Cintron?

Cintron looking sharp

I'm looking all over for mine. Since I stopped working in Mexico and needing a FM3, I haven't used it.

QUOTE(DrunkBomber @ Sep 6, 2006 -> 03:54 PM) A. do you know what a 1099. If you get paid tax free you are an independant contractor and are responsible for reporting their own taxes B. for the 50th time, your referencing grandmas and grandpas not reporting their income has absolutely nothing to do with this conversation, I said it is a bigger issue then minimum wage, I didnt say it was the end of the world, I realize lots of people do that and it is just as bad. http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServer?page...ssuecenters7fd8 Although the United States' welfare rolls are already swollen, every year we import more people who wind up on public assistance: immigrants. Many immigrants are poor; indeed, that is why they come here. The immigrants we admit are much poorer than the native population and are increasing the size of our impoverished population. As a result, the share of immigrant households below the poverty line (18 percent) is much higher than the share of native households that are poor (11 percent)—nearly twice as high. And immigrant households are more likely to participate in practically every one of the major means-tested programs. Immigrant use of welfare programs (21 percent) is 43 percent higher than non-immigrants' use (15 percent).1 Each year, state governments spend an estimated $11 billion to $22 billion to provide welfare to immigrants.2 There are some of your precious numbers First off, you said you saw them get paid cash and not report it. You never did tell me how you knew they didn't report it. Of course you would have no idea, so don't worry about it. Where you aware that companies report those wages on their returns, which is why you are required to give your social security number? What they do not do is withhold taxes from the checks. They do report. For the 50th time? LOL. I mentioned it once to point out that there is a booming underground economy. Businesses barter goods and not report the income. People take deducions they are not entitled to, and for the second time, I will mention that some work for unreported wages to avoid social security and pension issues. The laws should be changed to allow people to keep their retirement and work and report the wages. Yes, there is a growing pool of jobs that pay below the poverty line in this country. We are replacing better paying manufactiring jobs, better paying technical jobs, with WalMart wages. Most of these illegals are holding down jobs. Who is going to be a migrant worker? Where are 11,000,000 people going to come from to work these jobs? Should we encourage high school grads to pick crops? Be a janitor? Yardman? Remember, once they are legal, they will be more likely to apply for these government programs. These programs are established for the poor. No matter who is working these jobs, the same benefits would be paid. Nice stats, but you haven't established who will work those jobs after the illegals are gone, and how that will help the economy. Checkmate?

You aren't making any points, you are repeating falsities. I wasn't calling you drunk, you called yourself a drunk, unless someone else picked your screen name. Yes there are illegals getting paid cash, there are also grandmas and grandpas getting paid cash and not reporting it. Both cases are wrong, and things should be fixed so that employers can hire legally the workers they need. Laws should also be changed so that grandma doesn't lose her pension or social security because they start a part time job. Yes, illegals go to school, but so do the working poor, both have the same effect on the economy. Both pay little or no taxes. Legals are more likely to apply for government benefits than illegals. Therefor, illegals have have less of a drain than legals. How do you see them not reporting the cash? When I worked at Foot Locker, they paid all of us cash from the register instead of writing checks. All those wages were reported. It is the employer that reports, not the employee. Do you expect the employee to get on the phone and call the IRS, "hey they just gave me $390".Should they take out an ad in the newspaper. You're cracking me up with that. Tell me someone you saw report any income. How do you report your income? How would other people tell? mispelled clothing? I believe raiment was spelled correctly. This was fun, thanks for the laughs. BTW, I assumed you are an adult, I appologize if in fact you are a high school student and just not familar with how some businesses run and the ways of reporting income.

First off your premise that illegals are not paying taxes is largly wrong. They apply for Taxpayer IDs from the IRS and give those to employers, later they may also use a number that they are not assigned. Either way taxes are being paid. You claim to not worry about minimum wage jobs, but talk about the drain on the economy. Reality has shown that legal workers, working at minimum wage, are entitled to a slew of government programs. From housing, to child care, to health care. They require the same police protection. In total they receive far more in services than they pay in taxes. Illegals, working those same jobs, are far less likely to apply for these same programs. So if you are suggesting that illegals are more of a drain than legals, the facts do not support your argument. My opinions aren't any more valuable than anyone elses here. But, when Southsider talks about economic issues, his opinions are more likely to be grounded in fact. When Nuke talks about the military, it's from first hand experience. FlaSoxJim speaks about marine life or dodging a hurricane, it's a pretty damn good chance he's spot on. Want to know all about resistance? Ask QP. I don't know much, but border issues and immigration was a huge part of my life for several years. I will assume, based on your screen name, you're an expert on being drunk. I look forward to liquor discussions. BTW, Jim is an expert on microbrewing beer.

QUOTE(DrunkBomber @ Sep 6, 2006 -> 02:10 PM) Do you have any idea I live on the Mexico border, within the area that has minimal requirements for entry. Both countries allow for easy movement within 40 or 50 miles from the border. I was Executive Director of the South Texas Manufacturers Association. I have friends that own farms, landscape companies, and other industries that are hot spots for illegals. I also worked in a maquilla in Reynosa, Tamaulipas. I have traveled regularly in four northern Mexico states. So yes, I do have an idea. Many of my friend's parents were migrant farm workers in the 60s through 80s. They snuck across the border to pick, sort, and process our crops. They worked long hours, at terrible wages, and under trerrible conditions so their children could live a better life. So yes, I do have an idea.

Terrorists. Gitmo. He wants trials with attorneys and everything. Detainees that have been in "secret" CIA custody have been transfered to Gitmo and will stand trial. Wants Congress to clarify a couple things. Sounds like a Clintonesque pulling together of both sides. Military trials for terrorists.

QUOTE(DrunkBomber @ Sep 6, 2006 -> 01:01 PM) Actually, they make about 5 cash, collect government benefits and live in subsodized housing, dont pay taxes, and send money they make to their families that exchanges at enough for them to live comfortably off of. Amazing indeed LOL. Not even close to reality. BTW, the government allows illegals to get tax payer ID numbers and to pay taxes. The IRS doesn't care, by law, if the person who is paying taxes is here legally or not. Here is a great article on the life of an illegal http://texasmonthly.com/preview/2006-07-01/feature2 Let's take $5 cash that's $800 monthly. Yeehaw, steaks, champagne, 3 car garage, nice home in the suburbs, and I can send $1000/month home to memaw

Watching and listening to our president. I really like this man.

QUOTE(DrunkBomber @ Sep 6, 2006 -> 11:35 AM) There are bigger problems out there. In reference to it helping the economy, I think not paying illegal immigrants cash under the table for less money then Americans will do a job because the money has a higher exchange rate when sent home is a bigger strain on the economy then what little Jimmy makes pushing carts at Target. I find it amazing that people are able to work for $2 per hour, live in the US and pay for food, raiment, and shelter, and still send thousdands of dollars back home . . . amazing.

For it to be "fun bad" the team has to have no chance, and this team clearly has/had chances. I could go out and watch a fourth place team bungle and tumble to a losing record and have fun at the old ballpark. Laugh at their ineptitude, cheer for a good play from either team, and dream of the "can't miss prospects" in the minors. Here's a fun bad lineup that threatened to lose 100 games and finished at 64-97. 1976 Name Pos. 1. Chet Lemon CF 2. Ralph Garr LF 3. Jorge Orta 3B 4. Cleon Jones DH 5. Buddy Bradford RF 6. Jim Spencer 1B 7. Bucky Dent SS 8. Jack Brohamer 2B 9. Pete Varney C Wilbur Wood P The 2006 team should be threatening to catch Detroit, at worst. No fun here.

QUOTE(WCSox @ Sep 6, 2006 -> 11:50 AM) No, but I think that a number of fans here have quit. I was just about to post the same thing. Who quits first? The players, the coaches, the fans, or the ownership? The white flag trades tells me sometimes it's the ownership, last years fans jumping off the cliff in September, tells me sometimes it's the fans, I wonder if we can really ever tell if it's the players.

It is a great idea. I was always using the elastic cuff on my shell while running or trying the "farmers" wipe.

We desperatly need a couple more loses. This team needs a three game deficit, then come roaring back. Ozzie is brilliant in recognizing this.

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Texans, who you got? I have been leaning towards Perry ®, I voted for him in the last election, but I am seriously considering one of the IND candidates this time around. yours today!

It seems like y'all are talkingpast each other. Evil, if I understand the point, is pointing out that the Ford Foundation earned a return (profit) on their investment. Southsider, if I understand his point, is looking at an annual basis and suggesting that if they are spending that money, they have not made an annual profit. So we have individual transaction vs. annual budget. I believe the earnings from the endowment is analogous to a donation and should be considered income. What they do with that money would determine if they showed a "profit" or not. Tossed into the mix were comments that some CEOs and top officials of not for profits have been corrupt, perhaps engaged in illegal activities. Which prompts me to suggest Always check out the charity you are giving to. CEOs are greedy in both the for profit and not for profit arenas. Overall, I believe we have had more for profit, publically traded companies suffer at the hands of immoral CEOs than not for profit. I'm thinking TYCO, ENRON, etc. Just as no one would or should blindly invest in a company without research, before donating sizable assets to a charity, they should be checked out. may I suggest a donation to the Boy Scouts?

QUOTE(EvilMonkey @ Sep 6, 2006 -> 08:49 AM) I am saying it takes balls to stand up to the Muslims in Europe, which most of the governments over there just don't seem to want to do. Europe has been thumbing its nose at us for a while. C'mon, Tex, anti-US in the 'in' thing in Europe (and elsewhere), it has been for a while now. While it may be the "in" thing to you really believe it is easier to stand up to the US than Muslims?

Are you saying it doesn't take balls to go against the US position? I would think it would take a greater level of testosterone to not stand side by side with the only remaining superpower. It seems more to me that we labeled France as weak and wrong when they remained nuetral, now that more and more countries are taking that position, we are becoming more and more the outsider.

It's going to be a pain in the backside for people living on the border, especially those working in Mexico. Imagine if everyone travelling on 94 into Wisconsin had to stop and show a passport. http://themonitor.com/SiteProcessor.cfm?Te...p;Section=Local