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Note: Only responses from the participants should be posted here. The first round question is: Using our tax dollars, Local, State, and National governments support the arts through grants, public art projects, and other expenditures. With rising government debt, is this a good use of tax dollars, who should decide what projects get funding, and under what criteria?

Note: Only responses from the participants should be posted here. The first round question is: Using our tax dollars, Local, State, and National governments support the arts through grants, public art projects, and other expenditures. With rising government debt, is this a good use of tax dollars, who should decide what projects get funding, and under what criteria?

Note: Only responses from the participants should be posted here. The first round question is: Using our tax dollars, Local, State, and National governments support the arts through grants, public art projects, and other expenditures. With rising government debt, is this a good use of tax dollars, who should decide what projects get funding, and under what criteria?

Round 1 will be: Group A: FlaSoxxJim vs. NorthSideSox72 Group B: Sox4lifeinPA vs. Wong&Owens Group C: Rex Kickass vs. Sam Clemens Group D: mreye vs. whitesoxin' Round 2 will be Winner of A vs. Winner of D Winner of B vs. Winner of C Round 3 will be for the meaningless title. Again here is the format. I will create threads for each of the 4 debates. Hopefully other posters will not post in the thread, if they do, it will be moved. Each poster will have 24 hours to post an opening statement. After both posters have posted an opening statement, they will ask one question of the other poster. After answering, they may make a rebutal statement. After each poster has asked, answered, and rebutted one question, they may ask another. After the second question, they will have 24 hours to post a closing statement. Posts will be limited to 500 words or less. Grammer, civility, clarity of thought, persuasivness, will all count, since this is about opinion, no value will be placed on if the judges agree with your opinion or not. Icons will count as 1 word, pictures 100 words. Two human judges will vote and the readers will also have a vote. Any questions?

QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ Jan 22, 2006 -> 08:25 AM) Always good to see another FZ fan. There are still a few of us lurking about. And if this was a 'favorite 10' list, my list would be chock full of Beatles, Frank, Todd Rundgren (maybe Something/Anything should be on the list anyway), Jethro Tull, Hendrix, Elvis Costello, etc. The You Can't Do That On Stage Anymore anthology, along with Playground Psychotics and Ahead of Their time, is about the best historical live audio rock documentation out there. When I listen to Stage Vol. 2 (Heksinki) and hear that group pulling off Inca Roads, Montanna, etc. at those breakneck speeds, I really appreciate the insanely great musicianship of that lineup. Damn, when we have the soxtalk rave, you are so in charge of the tunes

QUOTE(samclemens @ Jan 22, 2006 -> 08:43 AM) if by "religious right" you mean the average american family that has a husband, wife, and at least one child, then yes, Disney panders to the "religious right" a.k.a. average american families, most of who do not favor homosexuality being taught and/or promoted to their children (and you cannot deny that this is a majority). Just like ESPN targets 18-40 males. Just like the Oxygen channal targets women. Same thing. Well almost. The average American family did not boycott Disney when religious groups demanded it. The average American family doesn't send thousands of emails in an orchestrated demonstration and attempt to blackmail a company if they show a homosexual couple in a positive light.

Last call for debaters. So far I have: Looks like we are full. NorthSideSox72 FlaSoxxJim Sox4lifeinPA Wong&Owens Rex Kickass mreye whitesoxin' SamClemens I enlisted an English teacher, someone who has not posted here, to judge. She will be looking at grammer, how well the posts are structured, clarity of thought, etc. The second human is a poster here, and will be looking at civility, clearness of thought, and how well the posts reflect desired Soxtalk. Poster votes will be the third vote.

QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ Jan 22, 2006 -> 08:16 AM) You're right about the Beach Boys ommision. Pet Sounds should be there. I'd drop Clapton from the list to add Beach Boys.

If the Governor and Mayor, were diehard Cub fans, the Sox would have been gone. As noted, the stadium deal was only completed when Gov. Thompson kept pushing the clock back.

Damn you PA. I was just fixin' to make an alcohol and her saying yes joke, and I see the pictures and read the evening and you are da man. Nice job.

QUOTE(sox4lifeinPA @ Jan 22, 2006 -> 07:25 AM) you see the thread title, don't you? haha. excellent.

QUOTE(sox4lifeinPA @ Jan 22, 2006 -> 07:28 AM) we all should Nice PA. I too think most reality shows suck. Wanted Ted or Alive or Cowboy U, for pure comedic value are the exception for me. But three or four episodes are about my limit. Is it possible the show just sucked? Yes. Is it possible that possible public outcry, was at the root? Yes. Did it all come down to money? Of Course YES. They figured they could make more money for the corporation by not airing the show. They do not have a legal responsibility to air a show or to help any group. They do have a legal responsibility to make money for their shareholders.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Jan 22, 2006 -> 03:40 AM) As for the media ... what's the use. You wouldn't listen anyway. YASNY, not only will I listen, I promise not to reply so this truly isn't bait of any kind. How does a newspaper become nuetral in your eyes? If they are writting a story about Monica Lewinsky or Prison abuse, how do they balance that? The order in which they report facts will become an issue. Do they look for positive articles to balance? Do they add up the colum inches and see how many are positive and negative? Do they endorse the exact same number of Dem and GOP candidates? If you have the choice of reading the Trib or Sun-Times is Chicago "balanced"? What I don't understand is how anyone could pull up one article and point to it and say it shows a widespread media bias. What seems to happen is the same thing when you decide to buy a car. Suddenly you see that car everywhere. The GOP has told their supporters to not believe the Press and their supporters have agreed. Talk about insulating themselves from criticism. BTW, Astros fans are still b****ing about the WS coverage bias. They point to how the Sox are the media darlings and received all the press coverage dating back to the regular season. A possible Sox collapse received more attention than the amazing surge by the Astros. I am so sick of hearing Hillary and '08. The Dems will not nominate a woman, and she has zero chance of winning. The GOP keeps hyping her and trying to get Dems to believe it. They know they could get anyone elected if she is the opponent.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Jan 22, 2006 -> 03:42 AM) It's a liberal thing. We understand. We don't have the likes of Rush, Hannity, O'Reilly, Ingram, etc to teach us and keep us in line.

How about FutureSox: Stocking Kenny's Bait Shop :rolly

QUOTE(sox4lifeinPA @ Jan 22, 2006 -> 12:01 AM) Men? QUOTE(Rex Kickass @ Jan 22, 2006 -> 12:03 AM) Hallelujah! it is just so beautiful seeing you two working together

I couldn't really argue with the list. I think it's very mainstream, and I'm not certain what period he determined could be "classic". I'm a Who fan, they were my favorite group in the 70s and early 80s, and don't have a problem with Next as listed. I think it is a better fit for the average Rock fan, although Who fans may differ. Same thing with the Stones and Zepplin entries. Those groups have to be there and these are their biggest sellers. In fact looking at who is listed, I had a hard time thinking about bouncing any of them out, possibly the Airplane or Clapton albums could be replaced but how could you drop Jimi or the Beatles? The Beach Boys are missing, that seems wrong. Other artists that possibly should be thought of Aerosmith AC/DC Queen U2

Gee we should have had a Most Likely to Get Banned in '06

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QUOTE(kapkomet @ Jan 21, 2006 -> 05:06 PM) Oh is THAT where that comes from? I don't need the drivel of Limbaugh, or Hannity, or any other idiot on the radio to think for me. It's obvious enough. You seem to parrot the drivel well. Everytime anyone says anything negative about Bush you immediately jump in with it's always Bush's fault and scream media bias. It's time to stop the "I feel your pain" and "Compassionate Conservatism" and just kick ass for four years. DeLay is the toughest politician out there. He scares the crap out of terrorists. He'd be Reagan without the charm. No wonder he was the GOP posterboy as Speaker. The Dems want him out bad because they don't have anyone that could beat him. He's biggest threat would be McCain in the primary. I don't see any other GOPers that would be nearly as tough on terror as DeLay.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Jan 21, 2006 -> 10:15 AM) Tex, seriously, how long are you going to keep pressing the DeLay comments? It's been almost a year, and the schtick is getting really old now. He is easily the best current politician to lead this country in the war on terrorism. Sorry if you don't agree. Now I guess if y'all would stop all the Hillary stuff and liberal media stuff that is drilled into our heads by 24/7 conservative talk radio, I'd have to follow suit. Every time Bush's name comes up you get on a rant, I've never complained.

QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Jan 21, 2006 -> 11:16 AM) Since I live practically next door to Busse Woods forest preserve, I use to bass fish on my lunch hour at Busse Woods.

QUOTE(FLsouthsider @ Jan 20, 2006 -> 03:08 AM) While I see your point about having your coaches developing talent and teaching things by the organization's formula, I'm not sure where you're going with ripping college coaches. Some of the best baseball coaches period have been in the college ranks (the late Rod Dedeaux comes to mind). While some kids might not get a lot out of the college experience, some have been helped tremendously by playing college ball. Players that age (17-21) need to mature as people, too. Sorry, I should have been more specific. Not all college staffs are top shelf, some are down right terrible, while other are arguably better than a Rookie ball or A staff. Instead of questionable, I should have said unknown, inconsistent, or something along those lines.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Jan 21, 2006 -> 01:43 AM) Wow. Talk about twisting something to suit your purpose. :headshake Which side? There is an event at the White House for families, where there needs to be two adults and a child under 8 to participate. Gay families with kids promote it as a way to show the world that not only straight people have children. Conservative groups catch wind that OMG! Gay Americans with children will be there and start a counter demonstration and look for ways to stop GAY!! people from being there. We can't have children of gay Americans pushing Easter eggs on the White House lawn. Sounds like both sides are twisting this to suit their agenda. Thank God the White House is showing some sanity and stating the event will not be restricted. I hope Bush shows some Compassionate Conservatism™ and makes a statement that all the kids are welcome, regardless of their parents choice in a partner.

Last weekend I was running the kitchen for a Boy Scout event and we had a leg left over from a doe we processed for an Indian Lore weekend. I wasn't prepared for vension, and had to make do with whatever provisions I could find around camp. I carefully butchered the meat, extra lean, and soaked it in milk for a couple hours. I started to boil it for stew, skimming and changing the water every hour or so. I found some canned, sliced potatos, corn, and carrots and added them. I also found some powdered brown gravy mix and an assortment of italian seasoning. Best damn vension stew I've had in a long time. I made enough for about 60 people and received rave reviews. Most didn't realize it was venison until we told them.