Texsox

QUOTE(YASNY @ Jan 11, 2005 -> 11:24 AM) OK ... Thanks. I'm more in tune to players than agents. Call it a weakness on my part. November to March, he is THE player in baseball.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jan 11, 2005 -> 11:23 AM) So he buys a condo downtown for less than he would pay in a month of taxes... There are easy ways around that stuff, esecially if you have a 7 year deal to play there... Cost of living could be a factor. But seriously when you are signing a $10million contract you can live anywhere. There are some quality of live issues that could move NY up or down depending on the individual. NY is a World Class City, one of the largest and most influential in the world. Some people enjoy that, others do not. Lennon choose to live in New York, not London, Sri Lanka, or Dallas. I never have cared to live in NYC, I prefer a smaller place.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Jan 11, 2005 -> 11:22 AM) What? Do I have his name wrong? Whatever. Beltran's agent. Whatever his name is. Scott Boras or Scot Bor*ass as the mood dictates

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jan 11, 2005 -> 11:14 AM) And therein lies the problem. If you want to be technical about it, Beltran would have brought home more money in Texas, which has no state income tax, vs NY state. But since Borass can sell his secondary clients higher based on the per annum that Beltran got, this is a better deal for Borass, and guess where Beltran ended up. And that is dispite his love of Houston, his objections for NYC, and more money in Houston. Actually states have been very good at taxing out of towners as well. Not a big difference. Link

QUOTE(Goldmember @ Jan 11, 2005 -> 11:14 AM) shhh...you just blew my cover... You know you have to make sigs for all the mods now

QUOTE(YASNY @ Jan 11, 2005 -> 11:08 AM) When they do, they get criticized in the press. Look at Vazquez and Green. A lot of a player's preferences doesn't come out, but when it does Boras seems to just brush that aside. ARod signing with Texas is another example. I thought the ARod issues came later when the team couldn't spend more money to build a winner as they promised?? He does have a way to claim all the top players and those that think they are.

My suggestion, do nothing and continue to feel then love

QUOTE(mreye @ Jan 11, 2005 -> 11:08 AM) You geeks! Post this in the "never a future mod folder"

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jan 11, 2005 -> 11:05 AM) We do buy a 1/4 cow every year now from a local butcher/friend of the family. The taste of unprocessed beef is sooooo much better than the crap you get at the supermarket. unprocessed? how?

QUOTE(YASNY @ Jan 11, 2005 -> 11:03 AM) I remember that Beltran specifically expressed his objections to playing in NY. Yet, he's in NY. Boras has a way of manipulating players into signing for the most money, regardless of their personal desires. Not too difficult for a good salesman I guess. But it allows Boras to tell the next guy, "Look what I got for him....." I guess some people could be intimidated by Boras. I wonder if Beltran made that statement as part of a carefully scripted Boras ploy to get more money out of the Mets? Really meant the Bankees? Really meant it? I would want the potential for winning, stadium suiting my playing ability, and a couple other things weighed into the equation, but very few players seem to.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Jan 11, 2005 -> 10:57 AM) Honestly, no. I think I'd be leaning toward an agent that listened more to what I had to say than what the union and Boras' bank book says. You don't hear his clients complaining. In the end he does work for you. You can control who you sign with. There seems to be a right of passage in being his client. You reach some All-Star dividing line and he seemingly has everybody signed. I wonder what the reality is behind the public image? I know I would not want some father figure patron saint telling me what to do.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Jan 11, 2005 -> 10:48 AM) Figuratively speaking of course. Seriously, if you were a superstar player, wouldn't you want Boras negotiating your contract? Say what you will about him, he gets some deals for his players. If you got the bucks, step into his showroom. Who has represented more Hall of Fame bound clients?

I hope he does well.

No, but not Favre's fault.

I was just sitting here enjoying some fresh squeezed OJ from my tree and thinking about the whole earth bounty, back to nature movement that fizzled out. I still grow some citrus and herbs, but no more vegetables. I'm thinking about digging up some area and getting started.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Jan 11, 2005 -> 10:40 AM) Screw Magglio Ordonez and Steve Boras. :fyou No thanks, not my type . . .

QUOTE(YASNY @ Jan 11, 2005 -> 10:35 AM) I can see both sides of this debate. There is certainly some validation to the point that Carlos Lee was worth more than we received from Milwaukee. There is also the very valid point that we also "got" Hernandez and Pierzynski as a result of this trade. Taking into consideration the stuff that came out about Carlos immediately after the trade, perhaps KW decided to strike before the stuff leaked out and lowered his trade value. Perhaps it came out only because the trade had been made. We don't know about all that. So, basically, we don't have all the information to make an informed, intelligent judgement about the trade. All in all, it looks pretty damn good for us at this point and that's about all, as fans, we can expect. As trades go it wasn't unreasonable. I just expected a top 15 prospect, possibly a pitcher. Teams now practically reinvent themselves each year and forgetting the past is almost manditory. I feel a dump everyone and sign free agents mood this off season.

QUOTE(mreye @ Jan 11, 2005 -> 10:34 AM) I know that sound. When I was in 8th grade at our conference meet, I was the #1 seed and was leading going into the last 100. I finished 3rd. :puke My coach was laughing so hard he almost wet his pants when he saw me standing there looking like WTF. This guy was so obviously the better runner. This guy finished 1 in the state, and was just incredible. I watched him destroy the competition in the Regional meet. The only think that moved was his legs. He just floated once he got out of the blocks. My biggest thorn in the side was a fellow by the name of JC who beat me in our conference 880 by about 5 yards. He had a go out fast and burn everyone out strategy and I preferred the hang on the shoulder of a slow pace and kick. I gave him too much room and couldn't catch him. He also finished just ahead of me in the mile and in the county cross country meet. I wound up with a locker next to his in college

QUOTE(mreye @ Jan 11, 2005 -> 10:23 AM) Our cross country course was at a Monestary. I didn't break any records. I did hold the Junior High 400 record for 3 years. I thought I could run the 440. Then a relay at Waukegan East proved otherwise. I was run down and whipped. I took a 15 yard lead and turned it into a 30 yard loss. As I was runrunrunrunrunrunrunrunrunrunrunrunrunrunrunrunrunrunrunrunrunrunrunrun I could hear woosh whoosh whoosh whooshwhooshwhooshwhoosh whoosh whoosh and he was gone

QUOTE(YASNY @ Jan 11, 2005 -> 10:25 AM) Weird. Too weird. :headshake Have you rented the DVD yet? Me neither

QUOTE(YASNY @ Jan 11, 2005 -> 10:21 AM) Just consider who we were trading with. Money was not an option, I'm sure. A better prospect should have been doable. Perhaps someone off AA or AAA not High A would have made this closer IMHO. What I like the most about this team is the pitching and having a decent potential lead off guy. Downside, we overpaid for that.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Jan 11, 2005 -> 10:16 AM) We come at things from drastically different directions, but we usually end up agreeing in the long run. It seems that way.

QUOTE(mreye @ Jan 11, 2005 -> 10:12 AM) 880? You're showing your age there, Tex. Coolest thing. A couple years after I graduated they converted to metric. AFAIK, I hold the school's 880 record 1:54, the 1 mile record 4:33, and part of the 4x880 Relay records for now until enternity. I also hold the old Cross Country course record. and unless they tear down that subdivision, it will be mine forever So I got dat goin' for me . . .

QUOTE(YASNY @ Jan 11, 2005 -> 10:03 AM) If you choose to finance Moore's next piece of garbage, then so be it. He won't get a dime from me. Nor would he get a dime from me.