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for her children

Bottom line, IMNSHO, the adults involved should not have negotiated the trade without her parents present.

Oops, or type faster

LOL, better than catch al, but the same

Where would the equivelent of Haight-Ashbury have been in Chicago? New Town?

Jim will not be in that club unless he lives to be 100

QUOTE (Leonard Zelig @ Oct 8, 2009 -> 02:01 PM) The article says they gave her an autographed ball, not a bat. Yeah, I messed that up. It is probably even worse of a trade then.

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Oct 8, 2009 -> 01:13 PM) It's interesting how we interpret things differently on a snippet that's probably less than 200 words. Neither side did the right thing for the "good of the game". Plus we are filling in holes to the story. They already determined the other ball would be worth a lot less. Which one would be a more credible sale on Ebay? It is also interesting that you've predicted this twelve year old is a spoiled b**** from those two hundred words. Again, that seems grossly unfair.

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Oct 8, 2009 -> 01:13 PM) It's interesting how we interpret things differently on a snippet that's probably less than 200 words. Neither side did the right thing for the "good of the game". Plus we are filling in holes to the story. They already determined the other ball would be worth a lot less. Which one would be a more credible sale on Ebay? The snippet said she went in alone. A twelve year old. A seventh grader. It was her and some players. Who do you think made the suggestion for the swap?? Do you really believe having a twelve year old negotiate the swap against a bunch of adults is fair?

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Oct 8, 2009 -> 11:20 AM) I guess HIPPA laws are optional there. Since it doesn't ask for any personal (ID) info, it may skate by. But I'm not a fan.

Even if we did, we're too busy posting to do something productive

After thinking about this, I'd be more upset about the way it was handled than the actual trade. A home run ball for a signed bat is almost the usual trade, and maybe not that far from fair. But they really should have asked for the parents right away. My guess is that would have ended this right away. And depending on his career, that ball, in twenty years, will probably be worth more than twenty bats he signs. And in a bit of irony, while when it use to be a game, was also when we would have showed restraint before labeling a 12 year old as a spoiled b**** and predicting her life. That seems out of line and unfair.

Another off season begins.

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Oct 8, 2009 -> 10:35 AM) You know that girl has to be spoiled and will never turn out to be nothing but a b**** her whole life. I wonder what the attorney fees for that baseball are? Imagine if a person didn't demand anything in return. She's twelve, probably in 7th grade, was taken into the locker room without any of her family and a bunch of adults told her to do something. You call her spoiled, I think they took advantage of her.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan99 @ Oct 8, 2009 -> 10:11 AM) Great job parenting. And I would guess a 200th HR ball is worth next to nothing. Can't imagine that an autographed bat from Ryan Howard would be worth any less than that ball. No way I would have allowed my 12-year old to go unescorted to the locker room. I wonder why the team did it that way. Perhaps they felt it was better to negotiate with a 12-year old instead of an adult? The ball was his 200th and a MLB record for 200 in the fewest at bats. How many bats has he already signed? Seems like they took advantage of a 12-year old.

She would have fit in nicely, I guess

Quirky was she?

QUOTE (Kenny Hates Prospects @ Oct 8, 2009 -> 08:29 AM) No, I meant exactly what I said. He'll be easy to move but it will be hard to get what people will probably expect out of him, i.e. a good return/good value, which means no top-5 prospects, no productive pre-arb MLB players, etc. Calling Jenks a non-tender candidate implies he has zero value. That will not be the case and if he's traded Jenks will still bring in pieces that will either deepen the farm or help the MLB club. There's a difference here between good value and no value. And no, it isn't true that any player is easy to move if you don't care what you get back. Salary is just as much an issue as talent and many players are immovable because of their contracts. Jenks however has not hit that point because FA closers are still going to make more in FA than he'll cost in arb, and they will command more years which adds greater risk to the package whereas Jenks isn't on the hook for anything beyond 2010 after he's offered arbitration. There will still be demand for Jenks, but because of the number of available arms and the limited financial flexibility of several clubs, Kenny has a lot less negotiating power than he would have had last year. Your real estate scenario is also a terrible comparison, in fact I couldn't even think of a worse one if I tried to. If you need to sell a home then you need to sell a home. You can't just waive off all responsibility and "release" yourself from the entire situation the way the Sox can release Jenks. If the Sox trade Jenks they will do it to recommit funds to other areas while improving the farm system and/or the big club at the same time, meaning worst case scenario they still add some value to the organization. In other words, there is no minimum amount of compensation that the Sox need to recoup in order to make the investment in Jenks during prior years worthwhile, and there is nothing 2010-related hinging on Jenks' return either. You're comparing a homeowner in a desperate situation who has everything to lose to a baseball club with nothing to worry about and only room for gain. Bad contracts also aren't a problem, just toss in some cash. So yes, everyone is easy to move if you don't care. The rest of the world calls that "hard to move".

Oh how often that little poem has made me laugh.

QUOTE (Kenny Hates Prospects @ Oct 8, 2009 -> 09:15 AM) I'm not voting because DJ Carrasco isn't an option. DJ is Ozzie's MVP and I agree with him. I will say this right now: DJ Carrasco (who fell just short of 100IP BTW) is one of the main reasons that the 2009 bullpen, as bad as it got, did *not* become the 2007 bullpen. You take Carrasco away from this team and who eats all those innings? I guarantee we end up with at least 3 different players aside from our regulars combining to fill those innings, and they'd all be minor leaguers or reclamation veterans like Jimmy Gobble. he's added

My grandfather also said if you can see through it, it ain't beer.

I am trying to reconcile a few things in my mind (pun intended) I agree with NSS that people should be responsible for their actions, deliberate or otherwise. When someone overdrafts their account, and the bank covers the check, in effect banks are entering into a loan agreement with the account holder. We set limits on the interest that companies can charge on loans. Therefor it seems to me that the overdraft charge(s) should not be more than the maximum interest rate allowed by law, regardless what names you put on the fees.

depressing, but I'd have to say Pods.

Kooky as it may sound my german grandpa allowed me to knock back a few beers at a young age. But they were proper beers, not some namby pamby see through brews that needed to be served so cold to mask the lack of flavor.

Netflix has complete seasons of The IT Crowd, well worth the instant watch.