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QUOTE (PlaySumFnJurny @ Dec 8, 2008 -> 01:33 PM) I just happen to think "borderline" cases should be kept out. Isn't the voting standard 75%, would you want that raised? But wouldn't there always be a "borderline" until it takes 100%?

QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Dec 8, 2008 -> 01:26 PM) It's here for me...the week of the GM Meetings, yay. I have an online final today. but Blackboard is down. Great start. I have one on blackboard, and two regular. I am also trying to nail down the last requirements for credit on my internship. That and make a few posts.

QUOTE (PlaySumFnJurny @ Dec 8, 2008 -> 01:22 PM) Not literally it isn't; but it is in the sense of being baseball's pinnacle of achievement. When "interesting-ness" is deemed an official, Hall-worthy criteria, they can let in Eddie Gaedell. Unless and until they do, Santo should be kept out. I have no problem with their being 290 or so members, but you have to draw the line somewhere. Every time its been drawn with respect to Ronnie (and regardless of who has done the drawing), he's been on the wrong (but correct, imo) side. That, I have no problem with at all. If it is suppose to designate only the greatest of players, why aren't players removed when other players surpass those achievements? It's a museum that celebrates the history of the game. If it was all about stats, just list the stats necessary to achieve membership and forget about voting.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 8, 2008 -> 01:19 PM) Send me the money instead. You have a much better chance of getting it back from me than you do this stock. The stock will be canceled with a near certainty. Yes I would, but with you, I could not write those loses off

My comments were more general than specific to Santo. In Santo's defense, the baseball community has built up his hopes quite a few times.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Dec 8, 2008 -> 01:12 PM) I'd be very cautious. Its halted and at $1 because if it goes bankrupt, it goes to the bulletin boards, and if/when TribCo reorganizes, there is no guarantee the stock will be worth anything. They can elect to walk away from it. It will be interesting to know who the major shareholders are that are left. Follow the money as they say. My guess it was not primarily institutional sell offs that lowered the price. And this becomes an investment along the lines of I'll take in the 6th a $10 tri-box 2-4-5-9

I'm considering a buy at that price. Off to do a little research.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 8, 2008 -> 12:46 PM) Ours went from looking like this paper, to editing out the stupid stuff, to totally shutting comments down. I believe that is the responsible route, although a forums like you run would seem ideal for a newspaper, but it would have to be moderated.

QUOTE (G&T @ Dec 8, 2008 -> 12:46 PM) But Jocketty wouldn't be the one shooting down the rumor. He'd want people to think it's active and see if someone will up the price. If anything, KW has set the price on Dye at a young starter with ace potential and another prospect. He would be telling people he turned down Dye.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Dec 7, 2008 -> 03:35 PM) He's an irritating announcer. But I agree that he deserves a HoF bid for his playing time. It would seem that some people would like about 25 players in the Hall and no one else, as high as they set their standards. It's a fricking museum for the game of baseball. It isn't holy, it isn't offering immortality. It's a museum. A Santo display would be very interesting. More interesting than some 1915 shortstop that no one has ever heard of.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 8, 2008 -> 12:36 PM) Ah, when you put it like that, it makes sense. IMO it just totally takes the professionalness out of the look of the site. Newspaper edit the letters to the editor in print for space and other concerns. They generally leave the on line alone to promote a free exchange of ideas. My local paper finally gave that s*** up and now edits comments when complaints come in.

The Reds could be floating this one with the hopes of setting the market price for Bailey that high. On the backside they could be whispering, hey the Sox are offering Dye, whatcha got?

QUOTE (FlaSoxxJim @ Dec 8, 2008 -> 12:05 PM) I don't know Sam's take on it, but I liken it to Michael Cain's approach to filmmaking. He has had some great roles in some great films, and he's also been in some real turkeys. And he has nearly 140 films under his belt since he first started out in film in the mid-1950s. When asked why he wasn't more selective about the roles he took, Cain says proudly that he's nevver turned down a part if he can fit it into his schedule. He grew up in working class London and has a very workingclass attitude toward acting. He's grateful to have the talent to be an actor rather than a ditchdigger, and for him an actor should be spending his time acting rather than waiting for the perfect role that might never come. Gene Hackman said about the same thing when asked if he was becoming overexposed. I sometimes think audiences believe artists can take great reviews and applause to the supermarket and exchange them for food.

I guess the old man should jump in and defend another old guy. Ozzy is an entertainer, always has been. He is still entertaining the best way he can. If it's whoring now, it was whoring then. Why we expect artists to starve for their art, and businessmen to prosper, is beyond my comprehension. He isn't going to offer the same act from 30+ years ago, or else everyone will call him a washed up has been that doesn't know when to quit. Instead he reinvented himself and again is offering entertainment to people who eat it up. Perhaps some people think he should just disappear, but he has a lot of years left and if wants to remain an entertainer, I say go for it.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Dec 8, 2008 -> 12:00 PM) This seems like a deal that's been discussed at length and is or was very close to being done, but a number of things came up, especially the salary situations, and that this deal is at a point where it can still get done but it's not so far along that something has to come out of it. I wouldn't be surprised in the least if this rumors does just blow away in the wind. I will say that David Weathers, who Dick brought up a while earlier, is interesting in this all. The Sox generally never give cash in a deal, but they will take on contracts. I'm personally wondering if there isn't a possibility of this turning into a 5 player deal with the Sox dealing Dye and another player for Bailey, Weathers, and another. We'll just have to see how this plays out within the next week. And with each passing day and each added player, it seems less and less likely to get done.

December Trivia for $400 Alex QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Dec 8, 2008 -> 11:49 AM) What is Larry Bird and Vince Coleman. A Day that will Live in Infamy. Correct Response

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Dec 8, 2008 -> 11:46 AM) Poor Richard? Doesn't seem like a good idea to me. I'll bet you a Ben Franklin otherwise

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 8, 2008 -> 11:40 AM) False, Tex doesn't go to any other sites The person below me thinks the Sox will finish in 3rd place or lower next year. False, too early to tell The person below me has expired items in their refrigerator

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 8, 2008 -> 11:18 AM) The one thing that could be interesting is that the sale of the Cubs would have to be negotiated and approved by a bankruptcy court if this was to happen. It makes their sale a potential nightmare for the buyers. Or not. Sometimes the sales go easier without someone so closely tied to the organization. But I believe you are probably correct.

There once was a team called the Dash Who fans threw an opening day bash

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 8, 2008 -> 11:22 AM) False, today I am loving that Chicken from Popeye's... The person below me is over 6 feet tall. True The person below me is fascinated that a thread this trivial could last this long

I'll have to think of it further, but I would not count on field success as much as some of the intangibles. For example Al Davis and the current Raiders franchise. It is a disgrace the way they act. The Cubs have put a decent product on the field with some very class athletes. I'd call the Pistons a terrible franchise back in the 80s and early 90s even though they won a few championships.

What an amazing talent and class act. I'm glad to see him finish ahead of Clemens on the win list. And unlike Rocket, I do not see Maddux deciding to "unretire" to pitch a couple months at the end of the season.

Maybe it would be by selected forums