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QUOTE (mr_genius @ Nov 12, 2008 -> 09:26 PM) There's already enough extra stuff students can do, the service requirement is not necessary. I think these schools need to concentrate on education judging from our national test scores. It's a dumb idea to be adding this stuff. Get the basics down first then try to convince me about this extra stuff. There are already plenty of extra curricular activities that students can do to build character. And honestly, I've already stated all this before in the thread. I don't see why this needs to be so circular. What lesson are we teaching that "this financial aid checkis a government assistance program, and we will defend you against anyone who wants you to work for it"? Our government is designed to hand you things and you will not have to work for it. Perhaps the biggest lesson is that there are no free lunches. That you will have to give something back. We all have time, talent, and treasure. Asking for a little service seems like a great lesson in starting to get people to not look for free handouts from the government. I thought I was the bleeding heart liberal around here, this seems surreal. I understand the concern about the government deciding what qualifies. There are some serious traps in how it gets rolled out. Allowing the choice of working at any 401©3 leaves the opening for a LDS Prop 8 type work and that, quite frankly, would piss me off. But then having some government agency approve programs for this also has some dangers.

QUOTE (sox4lifeinPA @ Nov 12, 2008 -> 07:27 PM) Link I get it, anyone can spread their message... but "why believe in god? be good for goodness sake" is just offensive for the sake of grabbing headlines. if these signs just said "be good for goodness sake" no one would care = no one would bother to be interested with this organization. This is the same thing as the "God Hates f**s" people. I honestly do not have a problem with it. At the most basic level it is a step in the right direction, people being good. Currently there is a lot of hypocrites among the good for goodness sake crowd.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 12, 2008 -> 09:15 PM) What do you consider a Darwin fish to be? Darwin fish are anti-creationism.

QUOTE (The Bones @ Nov 12, 2008 -> 08:24 PM) Ah yes...I see we can have God and Jesus shoved down our throats every block of every town in the nation but 1 ad campaign asking why people believe in an invisible man in the clouds is just taking it way too far. I'd never believe in an invisible man in the clouds. That's pretty silly.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Nov 12, 2008 -> 05:16 PM) I think it could've easily gone to Piniella, Manuel, or Torre. I wouldn't have complained with any of those three winning. I'm sure Manuel doesn't give a rat's ass, though. And I'm also sure that this award is little consolation for Piniella. The crazy thing is all three of them are basically one losing season away from being idiots and fans wanting their heads.

We'll give you tax money if you promise to hurt the middle class tax payers (voters) that you employ. That's a tough one to sell especially when the bank bailout resulted in top level executives getting bonuses and nice retreats at posh resorts. I agree the union rules are hurting the auto industry and ultimately workers, but tying it into the bailout is probably the wrong path to change.

I think you could have picked either one and made a case based on when they voted. I also think the playoffs should be considered. Personally, I think a manager doesn't start managing until September and earns his pay in October. It's like awarding an Olympic medal ten yards from the finish line.

QUOTE (MAX @ Nov 12, 2008 -> 03:29 PM) I just think the government should stay out of people's lives. You would be one of the few that truly believe this if by the government staying out you mean no student financial aid. The financial aid is the ruse that the government is using to "get into people's lives". Once someone accepts that $4,000 Pell Grant, the government is asking them to give something in return. So people could keep the government out of their lives by going to a private school and turning down any financial aid. Or they could work a job and earn that $4,000. Plenty of nice options.

QUOTE (LosMediasBlancas @ Nov 12, 2008 -> 01:44 PM) Ok, I'll say it, her body isn't all that bad. Too many adult beverages and a Hefty 2 ply and she just might rope you. sun glasses and not smiling would help as well. But as we all know, it's really her personality that counts

That thick grip will promote a slice.

comic gold. And so many boards jumped in with shout outs.

QUOTE (mr_genius @ Nov 11, 2008 -> 11:42 AM) I guess it comes down to your definition of what a conservative is. A neo-con big government, big spender will of course care nothing about a $20 trillion national debt. They will also support earmarks, bribes, wasteful spending, pretty much anything as far a spending. It's way low on their list of concerns. I at least understand and can respect the view point that possibly 1 trillion was neccessary or so was needed to save the financial system (even though I have a series reservations with how the bailout structure was set up). But the neo-con takes it way past that, and not everyone who supports a bank bailout is a neo-con. Endless spending; 1 or 2 or 9 trillion annual deficit is fine with a neo-con, but certainly not anyone whom accurately considers themself a conservative. Perhaps the crux of the debate becomes, if we have to spend that money to keep the economy on track, does it matter what we spend it on. For example, if we buy 3,000,000 uniforms for Troops, helping the textile industry, does it matter if they get worn or not? I keep hearing how the government has to keep spending, in fact they need to increase spending while cutting taxes, but unlike early in the New Deal, I don't see massive public works packages, or something that at least looks like an investment.

QUOTE (YASNY @ Nov 12, 2008 -> 11:23 AM) I didn't say that I would be that way. In fact, I'm on record here as saying I'll give Obama a fair shot. I am, however, saying that the bats*** liberals have no reason to complain when the bats*** conversatives give the next president the type of crap that they gave to the current one. It's amazing how now that the most liberal senator has been elected to POTUS that we should all sing Kumbaya and hold hands. And then when we elect a bats*** conservative then the bats*** conservatives have no reason to complain . . . and around and around the drain we go, neither side willing to be better than the other.

They are so much funnier than us

The ask not . . . was from his inaugural address, and no that quote was from a different speech.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Nov 12, 2008 -> 08:33 AM) Was that from his "ask not what your country can do for you" speech? Pay me and I just might look it up.

Never before has man had such a great capacity to control his own environment, to end hunger, poverty and disease, to banish illiteracy and human misery. We have the power to make the best generation of mankind in the history of the world. President John F. Kennedy f*** that, we have no time, we want to get paid, make criminals do it, etc. etc. . . . Some Soxtalkers

Congratulations I love the name.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Nov 12, 2008 -> 08:09 AM) lol I missed the "for free" part. How in the hell is $40/hour free? If you worked at that rate for a full year then isn't that damn near $100K? Just over $80,000. 52 week X 40 hours = 2080 hours. Use 2,000 as a guide when calculating $/hr into annual. HR tiop from the pros when interviewing candidates.

Something for everyone, rich and poor, Dem and GOP . . . Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world; indeed, it's the only thing that ever has. Margaret Mead Service to others is the payment you make for your space here on earth. Mohammed Ali The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke, British statesman and orator Everyone can be great because anyone can serve. You don't have to have a college degree to serve. You don't even have to make your subject and your verb agree to serve... You only need a heart full of grace. A soul generated by love... Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. The magnitude of our social problems will require that all citizens and institutions make a commitment to volunteering as a way of life and as a primary opportunity to create needed change. George Romney, former Michigan governor No matter how big and powerful government gets, and the many services it provides, it can never take the place of volunteers. Ronald Reagan Throughout my life, I've seen the difference that volunteering efforts can make in people's lives. I know the personal value of service as a local volunteer. Jimmy CarterWe make a living by what we do, but we make a life by what we give. Winston Churchill No one is useless in this world who lightens the burden of it for someone else. Benjamin Franklin When you cease to make a contribution, you begin to die. Eleanor Roosevelt Volunteering is hard. It does take away from TV, video games, socializing, studying, cleaning the house, and the myriad of things we do. But sports league end when volunteers dry up. Animals are not rescued, oceans remain polluted, literacy loses, hunger increases, school events fail. But hey, those are correct who say they have no time and only want to do something if they get paid. It takes a special kind of person to coach a bunch of third graders in baseball, and not everyone could or should do that. If you really want a paycheck for helping out like that, stay home, ride the back of the bus, you are not the role model that these kids need.

QUOTE (FlaSoxxJim @ Nov 12, 2008 -> 06:29 AM) The world would be a perfect place if everything was made of bacon. Talk about bringing home the bacon . . . The whole damn home would already be bacon.

QUOTE (MAX @ Nov 12, 2008 -> 01:47 AM) How is someone who is in college and working their ass off to pay for it going to find an extra 100 hours to work for free? Two hours per week? Can you coach a little league team? Then you have it covered. Help at the Boy's and Girl's Clubs once a week, done. When you find the community service project you have a passion for, it's really easy. Imagine if drinking in bars and talking to cute girls was community service, how many hours would the average college male have each year?

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Nov 12, 2008 -> 07:35 AM) Apparently we aren't going to see eye to eye here. I personally see Obama expressing reservations about involving lobbyists in anything financial or policy, but also realizing that you simply cannot have NO lobbyists across the board. Again, he and his administration can't change everything, but they will change some things, and that's what I expected all along. And not everything a lobbyist does is wrong. We see the biggest lobbyists with the most money and see what they do. We also miss all the lobbyists for the smaller causes that have access only because they can hire someone who already knows the turf. A few years back I went in support of the Manufacturers Assistance Centers who were having their budget cut back to the level that they could keep the doors open, but not deliver any programs. The lobbyist that was hired lined up a few appointments, gave us maps, some training, and we knocked on every Senator and most of the Congressional doors. Lobbyists help keep staffs informed of specific issues. They are another expert, albeit slanted and biased, that staffers can use. The staffs are adept at separating the wheat from the shaft. Remember, every time you contact your elected officials about their stance on an issue or offer your opinion, you just became a lobbyist.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 10, 2008 -> 02:29 PM) Exactly where he should have finished... Personally I hate that professionals from other countries are considered rookies here, but that is another story. It is hard to give an all encompassing definition that fits everyone but if you are playing against the highest level of talent available overseas, it seems you should be ineligible.

QUOTE (Kenny Hates Prospects @ Nov 12, 2008 -> 07:20 AM) Diminished value for Josh Fields could still be a lot higher than many fans think. He's shown prodigious power at the Major League level and is under team control for a long time. Contrast that to someone like, say, Brandon Wood who hasn't, yet still gets talked about by some like he's the greatest thing yet to come. I keep thinking how most fans thought Maggs would get a $500,000 incentive heavy contract because he wasn't worth much coming off the injury and not being able to run. I'm not comparing, just offering an example of how some GMs think. It's all about projecting what the guy will do from today forward.