Texsox

QUOTE (lostfan @ Nov 18, 2008 -> 02:16 PM) Yes, I am actually saying there are plenty of racist voters in certain parts of the South. Yes. Absolutely. Frankly I don't know why it's such a point of contention either since this is something I always thought was commonly accepted, in fact it's pretty in-your-face if you go to the wrong town. I didn't explicitly say it because I felt like I'd be saying the sky is blue. Does this apply to ALL white voters in the South that didn't vote for Obama? No. Of course not, only a percentage. The numbers don't lie and it didn't happen anywhere else in the country. And NSS, I'll use this one to show what I was saying. What was the point of this entire thread? It pointed to four southern states and asked why voters switched from voting Dem to voting GOP. The implication and connotation was obvious to lostfan and myself, I'm at a loss that you do not see it.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Nov 18, 2008 -> 02:08 PM) Tex - you don't see the difference? You just got through saying you feel you are a victim of painting with a broad brush. I was saying, one of those things is specific to persons, and the other was painting with a broad brush. The difference you say you don't see, is the difference you were trying to make yourself. I am done chasing you in circles. I'm dizzy and tired now. I guess I am not understanding your comment. How could someone bring racism into the process, then leave it out when they vote?

Two items I love McDonald double cheeseburgers $1.00 at my local McDs $1.09 Q-Taco at my local C-Store. Potato, eggs, cheese, and bean on homemade tortilla taco.

And I am trying to think of a criteria that would place Lennon ahead of McCartney in singing??

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Nov 18, 2008 -> 02:02 PM) You might get less upset if you read my full posts. I specifically said that racism HAS been mentioned. What I have NOT seen anyone say is that voting for McCain means you are racist. Those are two very different things. I do not see them as two very different things. And how can there be anything, especially racism in a race but not in the voting?

QUOTE (lostfan @ Nov 18, 2008 -> 01:48 PM) I said the historical connotation is obvious. Historical, meaning slavery, Jim Crow, white supremacist movements, racial violence, etc. many things that I thought didn't need to be mentioned which is why I chose the word "obvious" and then made a comment about refunding tax dollars because their education system failed them if they didn't know those things. The legacy of those things still lives, I'd assumed that's virtually common knowledge, so I didn't even mention it. If I'm coming off like an asshole I apologize. I do not think you are coming off as an asshole. So historically, the south has been in favor of those laws. And in this elected, support dropped from Kerry to Obama. The connotation, as I am understanding it, is white voters, in areas that historically have not been stellar examples of racial tolerance, voted along racial lines for McCain. Therefor drawing a subtle and not so subtle accusation of racism.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Nov 18, 2008 -> 01:36 PM) lol, WTF does that post have to do with "a vote for McCain is a vote for racism?" Christ. We pause for a recap: I said that white voters who switch from the Dems to the GOP in this election have been, at times, accused of being racist. NSS said that has not been the case and find one post. You said the connotation is obvious. Well if the connotation is obvious, doesn't that mean that the connotation is that some white voters have switched based on race? And if NSS is correct, and racist has never been mentioned, what is the connotation?

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Nov 18, 2008 -> 01:28 PM) Yup, and I have seen no such posts. I have seen a LOT of posts talking about the fact that some people were going to vote for Obama because he's black, and some others would vote for McCain because he's not. But I have seen no one make the absurd statement in here that a vote for McCain is automatically racist. QUOTE (lostfan @ Nov 18, 2008 -> 01:30 PM) I would kindly ask them to do one of 2 things in that case 1. explain what they mean by that or 2. promptly refund all of the tax dollars spent on their obviously failed education.

As a pure singer, I can't imagine Karen Carpenter being so low. If you are going to have her on a "rock" list, then she is too low. I would be morer willing to accept her not being on the list because she is "pop" not rock. And did I miss Carol King?

QUOTE (lostfan @ Nov 18, 2008 -> 12:54 PM) where the historical connotations are pretty obvious. Some don't believe there has been any connotations. But setting that aside. If I was living in one of those states I would be painted with that same brush and that just isn't fair.

Should all protests at Churches be treated nationally? Are we interested in all protests nationally? My God, to listen to some here the daily newspaper would be 10,000 pages long and cover every damn story from coast to coast.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Nov 18, 2008 -> 12:47 PM) The posts aren't about you, they're pretty obviously about other people (and nobody even says it in that many words, either). I think it requires a massive leap of logic to assume that people, who otherwise know you relatively well, are calling you a racist. It's always "other people" but I am trying to put a face on other people. I'm a white male who switched from Kerry to McCain. Sounds like the group they are talking about.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Nov 18, 2008 -> 12:45 PM) I haven't seen one single post inferring that any vote for McCain is because that voter is racist. Not one. Show me. Seriously, have you been reading for the past year?

QUOTE (mr_genius @ Nov 18, 2008 -> 12:43 PM) you're going to need a more robust ship than the 'S.S No Fatties' if you plan on doing any note worthy plundering.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Nov 18, 2008 -> 12:38 PM) Who says that even remotely applies to you? The dozens and dozens of posts that have inferred this since Obama announced he was running.

QUOTE (shipps @ Nov 18, 2008 -> 12:29 PM) I always wanted to be a pirate,but not this kind of pirate these guys are all business. With my luck I would be on Black Bart's ship. Dull.as.can.be

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Nov 18, 2008 -> 12:14 PM) And I have some great land to sell you in Florida. Yeah, there was no other issues besides race. The economy, homeland security, immigration, border fence, balanced budgets, taxes, all that stuff had nothing to do with anyone's vote who voted for McCain. I voted for McCain because I'm a racist. That's the conclusion that people want to draw and it's 100% bull f***ing s*** and it pisses me off every time there is an attempt to label me, and those that switched to the GOP this election, as such. That is a strong accusation, that attacks my very character.

QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Nov 18, 2008 -> 12:17 PM) Doesn't excuse it (not impying that you say it does). It's about time some of them earn their virgins at the end of a few ship-to-ship missles. Christians versus Sunnis. BTW, does the US allow now Christians to fight in our military?

QUOTE (MurcieOne @ Nov 14, 2008 -> 12:56 AM) Konerko - 93 SB's away from 100

QUOTE (longshot7 @ Nov 18, 2008 -> 11:54 AM) what about using Javy as the closer instead of Jenks? Because he craps his pants in big moments But if you mean by closing you mean closing out the season and being mathematically eliminated, he'd be outstanding.

Or Kerry had more appeal for black voters.

Not how I would have them, but not bad.

QUOTE (mr_genius @ Nov 18, 2008 -> 11:56 AM) so were old tyme pirates. Exactly. It just seems different on the high seas.

QUOTE (mr_genius @ Nov 18, 2008 -> 11:50 AM) well, looks like no UN to the rescue then. kind of crazy how being a pirate is profitable again. yarr We apply that label, but really it is the same as hijacking planes, stealing cargos, car jacking, kidnapping, etc.

QUOTE (mr_genius @ Nov 18, 2008 -> 11:37 AM) no the US shouldn't unless these are US ships getting ganked. maybe the UN can setup a anti-pirate fighting force, this is something they could do. The US ship angle gets interesting and complicated. Basically the US has some of the toughest and most expensive requirements for their vessels. So US companies will "flag"their ships in other countries. Panama is popular.