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QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Feb 11, 2007 -> 05:07 PM) Oh, that's why you finished 4th. It was one of those difficult-to-understand ballot things. Yeeaaaaaaahhhhh... in this instance, I like to refer to this.

QUOTE(spiderman @ Feb 11, 2007 -> 05:23 PM) What's more likely - Vazquez to pitch how he has the past several seasons (a 4th starter) or get his head straighted out, and develop into a shutdown ace ? I think we both know what's more likely to happen, but I hope you are right. I don't think either are likely. I think it's more likely that he puts up an ERA in the 4.20-4.60 region with a WHIP in the 1.20 area, being the Sox 2nd or 3rd best starter. Out of the two mentioned above, I actually think it's more likely he turn into Contreras C.2005 than he is to suck complete ass again.

QUOTE(StatManDu @ Feb 11, 2007 -> 05:44 PM) You are right about the punter part though that AFC punter took a lick in the Pro Bowl yesterday. ... I love your flashing countdown. That is solid work. www.whitesoxalmanac.com I definitely told my Bills friend that they need a new punter because Moorman died. Atleast he kicked a 64 yarder. They don't call him thunderfoot for nothing.

QUOTE(Wealz @ Feb 11, 2007 -> 08:09 PM) The Yankees won't be paying Giambi, Posada, Johnson, Mussina, Rivera, and Abreau by '08-'09, that's roughly $65M off the books. The Yankees didn't spend this year because they have a plan. FWIW, I think the Cubs will re-sign Zambrano, but mark my words the Yankees will be big-time spenders again beginning next off-season. I don't doubt that at all, but I don't think they'll blow their load and spend that $65 mill on all 3 of those guys. They'll just spread it around a bit and sign quite a few good players. And they'll undoubtedly be in on all 3 if any of them touch the market. It would be insane to have those kinds of resources at hand and then not attempt to get in on the big 3.

QUOTE(Wealz @ Feb 11, 2007 -> 05:56 PM) The Yankees have more money than Russia. When the Yankees new stadium opens they'll easily be able to afford those three. Put it another way, who's going to be able to outbid them? Boston, New York, LA, Chicago, Chicago...you know, teams that give out big contracts? The Twins are opening a new stadium too, and there's something in Minnesotan water that makes Twins players like to remain in Twins uniforms. What's to say they won't make an exception with the best pitcher since Pedro in his prime and resign him? Pohlad is what people would refer to as loaded. There's no way the Yankees sign all 3. I'd put the odds at 1,000:1. I mean, if that were the case, why didn't the Yankees just sign Zito and Schmidt this year? Why didn't they bid $100 mill for Matsuzaka? Because maybe, just maybe, perhaps just a shot in hell they are at their peak of spending power at roughly $200-250 mill a year, to go along with their luxury tax and revenue sharing?

QUOTE(spiderman @ Feb 11, 2007 -> 04:48 PM) Vazquez is an underachiver. Yes, he has good stuff, and any given outing, can shut down an opposing team, but more often than not, he'll pitch good for the first few innings, and then fall apart. As a #4 starter, I'm fine with him, but since his time in Montreal, what has he done to make you think he'll be better than a #4 starter ? You're going to base your judgment of Vazquez on his inability to adjust to a league in 1 year? Wow, so someone isn't perfect in this world. There's a ton of indications that suggest he'll pitch reasonably well next year, and there's really only his head stopping him from becoming a shutdown ace. We'll see.

QUOTE(Wealz @ Feb 11, 2007 -> 02:07 PM) Rumor has it the Yankees are building a ballpark that will open in 2009. They might have a passing interest in Cabrerra and Santanna, after signing Zambrano next year. dude, they're a baseball team, not Russia. Those 3 will cost them probably $650 million combined. It's not going to happen. I'd bet a large amount they get 1 of those 3, but if they get all 3, I'm done with baseball, and that's not an exaggeration or an overreaction at all.

Sweeney doesn't deserve anything. He's performed well at every level, but that doesn't mean anything (because Anderson performed well, and that got him how far?), and he looked bad when he came up last year. He needs atleast another half year of seasoning in AAA before he'll be ready.

QUOTE(redandwhite @ Feb 11, 2007 -> 12:27 PM) Nope. Just your normal sized bag. completely recockulous I'd sue

QUOTE(redandwhite @ Feb 11, 2007 -> 11:45 AM) The C-Store here at IU sells beef jerky for $9 dollars. Think about that for a second. you better get 4 pounds of jerky

QUOTE(RME JICO @ Feb 11, 2007 -> 11:47 AM) Thats weird, because at the bottom of the EPSN stats, under MISC stats, it shows 90 GB and 91 FB, which would be about a 49.8% GB rate. Link: http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/stats?playerId=4294 I wonder how each site determines this because that is a big difference. Linebrink also led the NL in holds in 2006 with 36. GB/Total Outs 75.2 IP, so that's 227 outs. 90/227 = 39.6%

QUOTE(Steff @ Feb 11, 2007 -> 06:43 AM) Normal owners would, and do as they have shown. The Sox brass, as I noted above and you made a fine example as well with the signing of FIVE players at bargains in their own right, have not done it since Belle (which turned out just fine as for his personal achievements, G) and I don't see them doing it again. If this season doesn't work, look for something young and cheap in the years to come. It will be at least 2 years of "rebuilding". noooooooooooooooooooooooooo It makes sense though. And I would assume JR would want some type of outclause, which would mean he has to give Cabrera some type of outclase, and sooooo it would probably work just as Belle's did.

If they would take Pods and Russell for him, you do it in a f'ing heartbeat. However, they were the ones that turned down Aaron Rowand for Linebrink, and likely wouldn't trade him unless they were getting a great young player in return. They'll likely just stick with their Cruz/Sledge, because it'll be good enough for what they need. QUOTE(SEALgep @ Feb 11, 2007 -> 10:13 AM) You could do this deal if for no other reason to flip him for another need. That would actually be great if it would work out too. However, I doubt it would.

QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Feb 11, 2007 -> 03:30 AM) I agree about Vazquez, but still, it's clear that the Tigers had better sp last year. And with their youth and the talent that everybody's been talking about for years, I'm not gonna bet against them in any case, even as I'm consciously trying to be a homer -- add in the fact that we have Floyd 'o the 65 career era+ as our 5th starter, and I'd say they clearly look better at this point. I'll go with Kalapse's ranking. I would go exactly with Kalapse's, only because I love Cleveland's rotation to death.

QUOTE(Chisoxrd5 @ Feb 11, 2007 -> 03:26 AM) I only see one word On to the topic at hand...its a pipe dream to think the White Sox would offer Miguel Cabrera anything close to the contract he will recieve from one of the other big market teams..like another poster above said, last big signing was in 1997, and we all know how that one turned out. When was the last time the White Sox had money to spend in free agency? The last time I recall, it was 2004-2005, and the Sox signed Hermanson, Dye, Iguchi, Duque, and Pierzynski - and that's just off the top of my head. If the rest of the team is essentially filled, why in the hell would you not put all that money towards one superstar player?

QUOTE(spiderman @ Feb 11, 2007 -> 01:43 AM) Clearly, Detroit has the best starting rotation in the division - both in young arms and upside. The White Sox COULD have a nice rotation, but there are too many starters in there who are coming off of bad years (Buerhle, and Contreras to some extent) OR who just aren't that good (Vazquez and the 5th starter). There isn't s*** that's clear at this point. And...Vazquez easily had the best peripherals last year out of any White Sox starter, so to say he's not good is ignorant. He's pitched one year for the White Sox, and hasn't pitched back to back years in the same league since 2002-2003.

QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Feb 10, 2007 -> 08:48 PM) I'd never heard that one before. I hadn't either, but it's like, what would it matter if it was Crisco or Vagisil? It's obvious why it was on his hand, and I'm more concerned with that than what it actually is. Not trying to kill the messenger

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Feb 10, 2007 -> 08:20 PM) I'll try and get these awards in profiles sometime soon. Just put Kalapse's in mine. That's what people meant anyways

there's a possibility he may catch on as a reliever. I didn't give him a chance, but what the hell, I like comeback stories and he worked his ass off for the Sox. It's not likely, but maybe.

QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Feb 10, 2007 -> 07:54 PM) The Prior saga is like a huge satire. A huge farce. From Phil Rogers: Huh. what the hell does it matter? it was obvious he was using it to cheat

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Feb 10, 2007 -> 03:45 PM) Jeremy Sowers was 7-4 with a 3.57 ERA and 1.19 WHIP in the MAJORS last season. In other words he was better than any Sox starter in his 14 starts last season. Cleveland's #1 and #5 starters give the Indians a nice advantage over the Sox going into '07. Tigers Indians Sox Twins Royals I still think the Indians have the best rotation in the AL Central, but whatever.

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Feb 10, 2007 -> 06:58 AM) I saw your salary numbers and I think Crede gets way more than 5 years 55 million. Also, I see the Sox resigning 2 of the 3 "stars" of this team. They're not going to leave Thome with nothing. It's entirely possible that Crede may get more. I just used 5/$55 to present a safe estimate and to prove how ridiculous it would be to resign Crede. He's good, but he's not $11 mill a year good, let alone $13-15. I'm also just not sure how smart it is to resign some of the stars. Dye may be somewhat realistic, but it depends entirely upon how much he is seeking. If it's in the $14-16 range over 3-4 years, it's probably doable. If anything more or anything longer, and it's just not smart to resign him. It's also worth noting that Miguel Cabrera is going to be a free agent in 2008-ish. The Sox will have a ton of contracts coming off the books. JR has been known to throw loads of money at hitters.... ...just sayin

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Feb 10, 2007 -> 02:22 AM) As much as he isnt as good as Uribe is defensively. He isnt that horrible, he could start on probably half of the MLB teams. There would be a drop off for sure, but hes very serviceable, and hits better. There's no way he starts for half the teams, otherwise it would have cost more than a AAAA reliever to acquire him. He's just not good enough offensively nor defensively to start. He is servicable, but the Sox have too many serviceable people starting as it is. Uribe is more than serviceable, because he provides good defense along with power. If he were to make contact on a more regular basis and/or be a little more patient at the plate, he'd be a huge asset to the team.

you guys have no idea how much you will hate Cintron if he is starting at SS. No idea.

QUOTE(spiderman @ Feb 9, 2007 -> 06:48 PM) You make a good argument that the White Sox can justify, for baseball reasons, why we should let Dye, Crede, and Iguchi leave via free agency, but I also think you have a pre-2005 White Sox mentality when we didn't have record crowds, and all these new revenue sources. There's no way we can afford to sign all of our players in this market, and you have to have younger players make their ways into the majors, but I also think it's crazy for Williams to potentially not sign any of our free agents because of the market. The market is what it is, and all teams are playing by it so I'm hoping that Williams/Sox coaches can develop our young talent, and allow us to supplement them with our top veteran players. I did say Iguchi must be signed. However, at some point you have to separate homerism and sensibility and make the right decision, and in the case of both Dye and Crede, it's just not smart to keep them long-term - though Dye is easily a better and smarter choice than Crede. Iguchi is almost a necessity to keep though, and, from a PR standpoint, Buehrle is too (and if they can't resign Buehrle, they'll antagonize him. It sucks, but true).