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QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Apr 3, 2005 -> 12:58 AM) But your whoring skills are just no match. Like right now... Dude, I am such a bigger whore then you. I am like Mr. Slave on South Park...cept I can't remember if Paris is up there or not

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Apr 3, 2005 -> 12:42 AM) Harris, you're not too far away yourself from the milestone. Congrats qwert. Come on, I am closer then Willie

I said Rogers, but they could honestly go anywhere, defensively, with this pick. They did just get Surtain, so that could influence their decision.

QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Apr 3, 2005 -> 12:48 AM) Reliable source. I have actually heard the same thing

QUOTE(knightni @ Apr 3, 2005 -> 12:28 AM) how you did it! You could have stretched that out a little more I am disappointed

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Apr 2, 2005 -> 06:05 PM) They may not win it, but it will be a lot closer than everyone else thinks. Their bullpen is awesome -- Duchscherer was great for them last year, Dotel is solid, and they still have Rincon and Mecir -- along with Cruz, plus (maybe) Bradford midseason. They also got Street and Garcia coming up, too. Harold Reynolds criticizes Beane for trading Hudson and Mulder, but he got some damn good talent in both trades, and what Reynolds doesn't seem to grasp is that Hudson/Mulder would have been gone by the time their contracts ended (2007?), because Oakland simply can't afford taking on such a huge contract. Hudson's value was the highest out of the Big 3 (though his decling K/9 is discouraging), so he maximized his, and Mulder's value, getting back two solid relievers, two solid future starters, and a catcher who's absolutely tearing up A-ball. I'm gonna be sure to watch the A's more on MLB Extra Innings, I want to see what the guy who should be a Sock in Joe Blanton, and I want to see if they hype is true with Swisher. I believe Huddy would have been a FA after 05, but I think he and the Braves reached an agreement to an extension recently. Also, I believe Mulder is a FA after 06. Of course, I could be way off with that too...that is just off the top of my head. Like I have said...I love the way they do things down there. If they don't win the division...which I did say I think they will do...they will atleast be have more wins then almost everyone has them down for. I am actually thinking atleast a .500 team, if not 85-90 wins, and I could even see, with the West actually being somewhat down, that they could win more then that even. It will be interesting to watch them this season, and to see if 'Moneyball' actually does work.

QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Apr 2, 2005 -> 10:32 PM) i really hope its Timo of the two..... but dont count out Pablo Ozuna... yes he lit up spring training but now we get to see how he does up against the competition when it counts... lets hope he doesnt falter. So that way Everett can be our backup SS right?

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Apr 2, 2005 -> 04:25 PM) Plus, with Kendall at the top of the lineup -- and Chavez entering his peak years, they certainly will have a lot more opportunites to drive in runs. I keep seeing on ESPN, how all of BBTN is absolutely gushing over the Anahiem rotation (as to why, I have no idea). Signing Finley was a pretty bad move, and while Cabrera is OK, many feel that the kid they got in the Washington deal (Izturis? Maciar, is it?) is just as good, at a fraction of the cost. Anahiem would have been much, much better off signing neither of the above two, and just throw money towards Beltran or Pedro. Qwerty said it a couple of months ago -- Oakland is gonna own a year or two down the road... I love the A's and how Beane and has gone about this, so that may be getting in the way too. I have no idea why ESPN would be all over Anaheim's rotation. I mean, it is decent - Byrd-Escobar-Colon-Washburn-Lackey - but it is nothing special. And I agree completely with the Beltran and Pedro talk. From what I can remember, they have given a combined $47 mill in contracts to Cabrera, Finley, and Byrd, while also getting rid of Guillen who made $3 mill or so...that $50 mill could have very easily been spent on getting Pedro over there over Byrd, and then signing a decent OFer to play LF or CF for them and then putting Anderson in the other spot. Then again, I am not running them. I do think it would be funny as hell if the A's, a team with a payroll of like less then $50 mill, wins a division where every other team in the division has a payroll of over $80 mill.

QUOTE(elrockinMT @ Apr 2, 2005 -> 02:46 PM) BBTN on Thursday called the Sox pitching staff Jekyll and Hyde quality. You never know what you will get from game to game. I am actually more concerned about the bullpen and I see my friend YASNY thinks that is our strength. I hope so too, but it seems Takatsu, Marte and Politte get nicked every time out. What's up with that? Shingo's WHIP was under 1.00 last year. Marte had the worst year he's ever had with us last year. Politte is our 5th reliever, if that. We also have Hermanson, who will be a solid arm out of the pen(I'm hoping for Antonio Osuna without the constant drama), along with Vizcaino who has some pretty sick stuff, along with Walker/Cotts. We also will have the other of Walker and Cotts in the minors, along with Adkins, Baj, Diaz, and possibly others I'm not even thinking about now.

QUOTE(qwerty @ Apr 2, 2005 -> 04:08 AM) Not when he was in the minors for 13 years in total and had a 3.59 era down there. Career 3.81 era in the majors while pitching with his best velocity which is 92-94 and on occasion he was able to reach 95. The very best i can see from him now is a 4.50 era. Disagree if you like that is just the best i can see from him unless he regains his velocity. Most pitchers like shingo who can just touch the 90's or cannot even get in there have always pitched like that and they are use to it. They have little to no adjustment if they lost a few miles an hour. Even if regains that lost velocity, there is no guarantee he is successful after that. Look at Koch. He was a 97-100 pitcher in Oakland, and his first year in Chicago he touched 95 a couple times, and that was about the highest he ever hit. In 04, he had regained some of his velocity and was hitting 94-97, but was still horrible.

QUOTE(knightni @ Apr 2, 2005 -> 11:27 AM) Go ahead qwerty, he's a Cubs fan anyway. So is qwerty though

QUOTE(T R U @ Apr 2, 2005 -> 11:52 AM) Well I seriously doubt anyone takes him in the first round.. You dont take that kind of risk picks in round one.. I would figure that one of the reasons behind Pittsburgh taking him there is their success turning college QBs into good pro WR's. While taking Jones there is a risk, I do think it is a risk worth taking for Pittsburgh, due to his ceiling and them not having a ton of needs. The fact does remain that he has top 10 talent, and seeing him go there actually doesn't surprise me a lot.

QUOTE(Jabroni @ Apr 2, 2005 -> 04:01 AM) Neither Ellis nor Ginter are world beaters and even though Swisher is a top OF prospect it's still his rookie year. The A's biggest question mark is their young rotation. Dan Meyer pitched poorly this spring and won't even make the rotation. They already sent him to the minors. Their bullpen should be really good. Oh I know Ellis and Ginter are nothing great...but they are in a similar situation offensively to us. Crede is (probably) our weakest hitter...does he concern you a ton? I'm not saying by any means that their offense is as good as the Yankees or the Red Sox or the Cardinals...just that it is very, very underrated. Also, while the rotation is the biggest question mark, I figure with 7 guys who will probably be able to start for them at some time or another, they will be able to have some type of consistency at the very least. Also...2 names I had forgotten about in the pen that someone reminded me of...Jairo Garcia and Huston Street could also be thrown into the mix as well...both who will probably be very good relievers in time.

I think what pisses me off most about these rankings is that he has the A's at 23. This is a team that has virtually no weak spot offensively. C - Kendall 1B - Hatteberg 2B - Ellis/Ginter SS - Crosby 3B - Chavez LF - Byrnes CF - Kotsay RF - Swisher DH - Durazo with a fairly solid bench too. They are worst up the middle offensively, and that is made up for defensively with Ellis and Crosby. They also have Charles Thomas on the bench too as a 4th OFer. Their rotation is nothing spectacular, but it will be fairly solid, especially at the top, and they have quite a bit of depth too. Zito-Harden-Haren-Blanton-Saarloos(I assume) with Yabu and Meyer also viable options too. And their pen has got to be one of the deepest in the majors, and that is something that has triggered the Twins to 3 straight division titles. Dotel-Calero-Bradford-Cruz-Rincon-Duchscherer is a very solid pen 1-6, and all are very capable of putting up ERAs in the 3.50 range and below(with the top 3 being able to put up better), and WHIP's in the 1.10-1.30 range(with both Dotel and Calero having put up better in their careers). As of right now, I actually have the A's winning the division. And I do see a lot of similarities between Minnesota and Oakland. Both have solid depth in the rotation, both have deep bullpens, both have guys that flat out get on base consistently for them...the main difference is that Minnesota uses the hit and run, steals bases, and bunts a hell of a lot more then Oakland. And, as far as the national spotlight is concerned, you see a lot of similarities between how most people view Oakland and how they view the Sox. Oakland gets rid of Mulder and Hudson, so suddenly they have no chance whatsoever of winning, when really the exact opposite could very well be true. The Sox lose Caballo and Maggs, and suddenly the offense is horrible, when we will have a better RF offensively this year then we did last year total, and we added a better catcher, a better 2Bman(hopefully), along with the production from Podsednik...not to mention Everett for a full year and Thomas hopefully healthy come May or so. I just do not like these rankings whatsoever...but whatever. We'll see in September when the A's and Sox are at the top of their respective divisions, or very close to it at the very least.

I dislike these rankings Florida is at 6, and in the analysis, it mentions how everything will have to go right for them. Last time I checked, a top 6 team in the majors does not have to have everything go right for them to win.

QUOTE(Be Good @ Apr 1, 2005 -> 05:28 PM) LOL WIld guess: http://images.ibsys.com/2005/0401/4337448.jpg I see like 5 players that are no longer on the Sox(Koch, Jimenez, Maggs, Caballo, and JOSE!!!1111!!!!!11!!). Not that that is a bad thing...just sayin'

Just a FWIW type thing, Scott Wright has him going in the first round to Pittsburgh NFL Draft Countdown Mock Draft

This is such a tough damn pick with the current players on the board. I went with Brown...perhaps a little high for him, perhaps not. They could still use some help on the offensive line.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Mar 31, 2005 -> 11:05 AM) i dont know why the odds are that they are going to be better. They had alot of players who played over their heads, I think the odds are that they will regress. Let's hope that doesn't happen to Uribe or Rowand either. Or even Willie too, for as little as he may end up playing. We already have enough shaky spots on our team as it is.

QUOTE(Pauly8509CWS @ Apr 2, 2005 -> 12:25 AM) I'm in no way a cub sympathizer, but Kerry Wood has nasty stuff. You can't say that the way the Cubs have handled him hasnt hurt his career. Hell, I dont see how you can call someone who struck out 20 guys in a game overrated. So what if he's injury prone, he has GREAT stuff and the way the Cubs have handled his arm by leaving him out there too long etc. has hurt his career. It didn't seem to hurt Roger Clemens career too much. In fact, in years 3 through 9 of his career, Clemens's low IP total was 228.3. MB is in the same boat as Roger as far as IP are concerned, but then again, MB doesn't throw it in the mid to high 90s either. The Cubs could maybe handle Wood a little better, but the fact remains that he is injury prone, and while he is a solid pitcher, he is overrated, period. He IS made out to be a god by many, and that is something he is not. And I don't view Prior as overhyped. The guy put up an 18-6 2.43 ERA, 1.10 WHIP, 10.5 K/9, 5 K/BB in his second season. When healthy, that is what you will get out of Prior. He is injury prone, not overhyped. Overhyped IS Jon Garland, who has yet to put up an ERA of under 4.50, was a very good prospect coming up.

QUOTE(whitesoxfan56789 @ Apr 1, 2005 -> 08:26 PM) Great Falls APRIL FOOLS Actually, I heard he was going to Zimbabwe No joke

QUOTE(Jabroni @ Apr 1, 2005 -> 07:20 PM) The Mets claimed him and then waived him to try to sneak him through to their minor league team to have some infielder depth down there, just like we tried to do. They were hoping no other team would claim him but the Mariners did. The Mariners will probably try to do the exact same thing and another team could claim Valdez again. That would suck for him if he got claimed again. I hope for the sake of him that he doesnt.

QUOTE(ottawa_sox @ Apr 1, 2005 -> 07:11 PM) Woah there! That's a little harsh for a summary of your neighbour eh. On the entertainer front, there's Jim Carrey, John Candy, Dan Aykroyd, Michael J. Fox, Pamela Anerson, Shania Twain and William Shatner for starters. For sports, there is Wayne Gretzky and I'll leave it at that for hockey. Would you take Gagne for our closer. Fergie Jenkins was not too bad, or Larry Walker for that matter. Hell even Pete Ward was one of the better 3rd basemen for the Sox. On a humanitarian and scientific front there was Norman Bethume, Sir Fredrick Banting and Alexander Graham Bell. Don't make me come down there. I got my dog sled parked out front! It's good thing Bob and Doug McKenzie live just down the road. Now I'll have to pay them a visit and drink about a dozen of our excellent brewskies to calm my nerves And they have the Twins too...that's close enough to Canada, no? OK, that was rotten...the thought of any state having to deal with them is a sad thought. I feel sad for some Minnesotans.

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Apr 1, 2005 -> 06:07 PM) That sucks for him. Why do teams that know they wont' have a roster spot for him continue to pick him up????? For depth. Also because they may think he has some type of upside, but they think he is 'bad' enough to clear waivers...as is the case with Wilson Valdez.

QUOTE(chi-guy2 @ Apr 1, 2005 -> 04:25 PM) this mock draft blows, troy williamson going this early, same with merrian, this is ridiculous It is really not that high at all. I have seen Merriman taken at 11 in a ton of mock drafts...I would be very surprised to see him not taken at 11, and I have seen Williamson go to Washington at 9 too. There are some questionable picks(Mike Williams at 4, Edwards at 6, and perhaps arguments could be made for others), but overall, it is decent. I think the thing with Mike Williams was that a lot of Bears fans have fallen in love with him, and they don't view a RB as even a viable option due to Thomas Jones, but I am almost sure that they will take a RB in round one...I don't agree with it, but I think they will...and I personally think it will end up being Ronnie Brown, actually, because I think Miami will trade down from 2 to Minnesota or San Diego and probably take a RB(because Benson or Cadillac will almost certainly be there at 7, and there is a good chance that the same one will be there at 12 too). And there seems to be a prejudice against Braylon Edwards, because he is a Michigan receiver, and all too often when Bears fans think of Michigan receivers, they think of David Terrell.