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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 11, 2009 -> 09:07 AM) Wait a second, I want to see you defend Willie Bloomquist's contract!!! Neyer had a full blog on this for some reason, it was pretty funny actually...about how the Royals have wasted $10-12 million on a bunch of players that will have a marginal impact when they could have gotten an Abreu or Dunn. I think Bloomquist had something like one extra base hit all of last season? Is that possible? Or over his last 300+ AB's, or something very strange like that. LOL, the Bloomquist love dates back to an inside joke that few only a few will even get. In real life (because the joke came from an OOTP league) he's f'ing terrible. Anyways, 1 XBH last season in almost 200 PAs. 6 XBHs in his past 400 PAs. He makes Jerry Owens look like a power hitter. The only justification for a contract like that is merely that the Royals really honestly do like to give out bad contracts. Atleast Tony Pena Jr shouldn't be back. We'll see though. All of those guys hit for a good batting average (in Lopez's case, it was down the stretch), and Uribe didn't. I'd probably rather have Uribe above all of them other than perhaps Punto, and he got the worst deal of them all. I'm curious to see where Uribe ends up...my guess still remains Boston. And that's exactly my point QUOTE (GREEDY @ Jan 11, 2009 -> 09:47 AM) You do a fairly decent job of contradicting yourself. First, you say that all of the guys I listed were either overpaid or their contract was on par. Then your very next point states "the economy is in a poor position to give out lucrative deals". So which is it? I wasn't as clear and worded my final statement poorly...the economy has a huge effect on all of those, and besides that, the deals of the past two winters have been largely affected by the Cubs, who gave out several bad contracts in the same winter (and are still feeling the side effects from two of those). All the same, most of those deals are just fine for the market that the player is in, even considering the economy, which would make their deals look like bad investments besides the fact that the minimum salary is at or is close to $400k. So explain Kyle Farnsworth to me then. Please? Pretty please? What s*** hitting the fan? Consider me confused. If you are suggesting that the economy will take a turn for the worst, than I don't consider it posturing by the owners, I consider it good investing by the owners, though some will make short-term commitments on the cheap to bring in quality players. If you are suggesting that the free agent market in 2010 is going to be somewhat stronger, you also have me confused, because there really hasn't been a free agent class this strong in quite some time. Everything I said was pretty much true or a very strongly argued point, and you back it up with that. Congratulations.

QUOTE (GREEDY @ Jan 10, 2009 -> 09:01 PM) Can you say C-O-L-L-U-S-I-O-N ? These signings are hillarious. 2.5 Million for Mark Kotsay: No Soup For You. Really? Erstad got $1 mill in 2007 and I thought the Sox were paying just about perfectly. What makes Mark Kotsay worth two and a half times as much as Darin Erstad of 2007? I wish I got 1.5 mill as a pitcher with a surgically repaired arm at the age of 39. Name me one starter that got $9 mill a year whose best year came 5 years prior to him signing that deal. The best you could probably think of is Marquis, and that's a flat out lie, as his came in 2004 (a year after Redding's), he signed his deal 3 years afterwards (2 years earlier than Redding), and he's been a durable and dependable major league pitcher (something Redding has never proven). Redding's lucky to get $2+ mill after finally pitching another full major league season. Full-time DH (because he costs you games with his glove), thus preventing him from signing with teams who already have a DH or use it differently, way old, way overpaid in his final season as a Yankee, and slightly overrated thanks to a short porch in RF at Yankee Stadium. not even 300 PAs, and they gave him $2 mill with nowhere to put him but LF or the bench. He's going to be 33. His career line is .260/.330/.370/.700. And he deserves more? I bet Ross Gload wishes he was a free agent after 2004. With a .236 average and a .767 OPS all the same. And that was a season ago. He was an underrated player, but he's getting the most and the best opportunity as a player he can. One of the best defensive shortstops in the game. Has the capability of playing any of the difficult infield positions at a gold glove caliber level. Always been a good situational hitter. Always had good power. The White Sox had no other options at the time period. $4.5 million is a bargain for a stopgap starting shortstop, and now he's going to struggle to get $2 million after coming off his best season since 2005. To put it politely Mr. Boras/Tellum/attempting-to-be-MLB-agent, the economy is in a poor position to give out lucrative deals at any level, unless to a true superstar (which the Yankees have done), and this type of fallout has been expected for a while. The economy and price level has been in a completely downturn...here in South Dakota, gas was $4.20+ a gallon less than 7 months ago, and now it is at $1.80. That's more than a 225% drop in the price of gasoline alone, and the Dakota territories have not been hit nearly as hard by the economic crisis as many of the bigger states have been. The reason these older and mediocre players are getting "mediocre" contracts is because they are exactly that or worse going forward, and they should be happy to get what they want.

QUOTE (kyyle23 @ Jan 11, 2009 -> 08:32 AM) shipps didnt earn this through hard work. He earned it through using chisoxfns PW and posting about his penis. And thats the american way cheating and lying: the American sad part is, I wish I did both better

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 11, 2009 -> 02:00 AM) We've taken a number of players from the Yankees under Cashman, including El Duque (former Yankee) and most impactfully (is that a word?) Contreras, which really was the one that probably stuck in Cashman's craw the most. Duque was a free agent...funny though that the Yankees actually traded him to the Sox intitially, and then the Sox dealt him to Montreal for Bartolo Colon. He later rejoined the Yankees and then signed with the Sox as mentioned previously. The Yankees dealt Contreras because it looked like, and quite frankly was, a terrible contract. He was a long reliever for them, and they dealt him for a different long reliever who was signed for cheaper and fewer years. I can't blame them for it. If you're going to use Marte, you can't suddenly forget about Javy Vazquez. I don't look too much into players that have been traded outside of between teams. There are GMs that want players all the time, and something such as that is coincidental. Jimenez was merely an underrated player at the time who had potential who also had his share of problems, and Williams gave him a chance to capture a starting position on a weak Sox team at the time. The fact that he was cut so quickly gives you an idea as to how much Williams really liked him, especially considering how patient Williams has been with younger players in the past. Regarding Swisher, Cashman most likely felt that it was a good deal at the time, and Williams wanted to get rid of him while also reading the market well, and suddenly Swisher looks like a bad contract with no where to play in New York. Kudos to Williams on making a good deal, and Cashman doesn't care because he has the money to afford an expensive backup. When was the last time the Sox made a deal with the O's, Rays, Marlins, or Cardinals? Of those, the last I can think of is the Koch trade with the Marlins, and that was just as much of getting rid of him as it was getting anyone in return. The Sox generally make small trades with several teams and big trades with only a select few. I'm not too worried about it.

if he treats it like ST, or starts earlier, I have no problem with this quite honestly. So long as the club gets him a long break or a DL stint during the year, everything will be fine.

QUOTE (MurcieOne @ Jan 11, 2009 -> 03:51 AM) If this was your sick way of trying to get me to retire... it won't work jason. edit: WTF?!? when did I announce my retirement... ahhh f***. pwn3d

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 6, 2009 -> 03:24 PM) http://soxmachine.com/blogs/soxmachine/arc...1/06/14828.aspx Column on what would have happened had Thome NOT reached 1100 plate appearances and had his option secured for 2009. Would the White Sox be better off without Thome and $9 million to spend in this market (roughly)? eh, maybe, but I don't think anyone could have foreseen the market doing this in 2007, and the Sox needed Thome's bat in 2008. Hindsight is 20/20 and the Sox most definitely don't make the playoffs without Thome. Interesting to consider but virtually worthless to spend too much time on.

QUOTE (Heads22 @ Jan 6, 2009 -> 04:33 PM) Willie Bloomquist will. Willie Bloomquist already has, and always will be.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Jan 6, 2009 -> 02:33 PM) He's free to roid back up now. Expect a big year. just free to get rid of that god forsaken mustache. I, for one, hope he grows the beard and hair back. I have never been a Giambi fan, but his hair is awesome.

QUOTE (LosMediasBlancas @ Jan 6, 2009 -> 09:34 AM) He doesn't want to name the supplement? Why Not? It's already on shelves at GNC. What he mean is he doesn't want to give them a free endorsement. By the way, is caffeine a banned substance in MLB? players drink Red Bull all the time, so no

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jan 6, 2009 -> 02:34 PM) Got this from www.orioleshangout.com: Scott Garceau just reported on 105.7 the FAN that a deal that sends B-Rob could possibly include Jermaine Dye coming back along with Floyd. FWIW.... lol, so which young pitcher are they sending back the Sox way? I'll take Arrieta, if that's OK with them.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 6, 2009 -> 01:13 PM) 35 is the new 40. I think this has to be something of a concern with Roberts as well, at least in the back of KW's mind. Maybe even Hudson. We're unlikely to see the players improving or sustaining career numbers well into their late 30's (like Bonds) or improving them. "Prime" years for any baseball player revert back to 26/27-29/30. Players just losing their skills pretty suddenly (like Roberto Alomar) will be more the norm again. at the same time, there may be players who are actually good players that looked worse during the PED era because everyone else was that much better. For whatever reason...probably naivete...that Mark DeRosa fits into that category rather than as a PED user. It's not often that a dude has the best season of his career at the age of 33.

QUOTE (3E8 @ Jan 5, 2009 -> 08:10 PM) I prefer Caroline's breasts, Anna's ass combined with Tillie's everything else so this is why you and I get along so well

The next time you are drunk, take a plugged in alarm clock and just move it around in front of your face in the dark, preferably right before you go to sleep. It's awesome because you'll see the alarm clock itself moving at regular speed but the LED lights will be slower and they'll just lag behind the alarm clock about a second. Atleast they did for me last night. I was entertained in my drunken state for a good 5 minutes.

QUOTE (shipps @ Jan 6, 2009 -> 11:47 AM) There is a doctor named Dr. Deutsch that I work with,it is pronounced DOITCH but most people say it like duechebag and I laugh every time. HAHA Dr. Douche

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 6, 2009 -> 12:07 PM) Isn't Marquez BA's #14 White Sox prospect currently? Its not like KW broke the bank ridding himself of Swisher, but he did well to get something and not have to eat any money. Giambi who had an OBP of .375 last year with 32 hr and 96 rbi, is getting a 1 year $5.25 million contract from Oakland. Giambi's limited in the field compared to Swisher, trimming his market considerably, but it's still a point well taken.

QUOTE (Princess Dye @ Jan 6, 2009 -> 10:40 AM) Sure would be nice if all these guys would work out, and then we can just use FA dollars on pitching. EDIT: Man, even if that worked out we'd still need a leadoff hitter and/or cf. Jordan Danks

QUOTE (Hatchetman @ Jan 6, 2009 -> 11:17 AM) nobody cares about PED use now. half the league was/is using them. QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jan 6, 2009 -> 11:20 AM) Fixed for you. I care. QUOTE (SoxFan562004 @ Jan 6, 2009 -> 11:44 AM) I care I care mainly because players who aren't on PEDs anymore have usually gotten worse since that time. Pettitte really is no different, and he's much older at this point. I want nothing to do with him.

QUOTE (MO2005 @ Jan 5, 2009 -> 08:06 PM) This deal would never get done! First, we all know Kenny is under the radar and everything he wants we never know until it happens. Two, Gavin is inexpensive and had a great year last year. So this topic should go bye bye! This has been proven to be false by members on here, notably Kalapse in a thread about a month back. There have been several deals in the past which the Sox have been linked to which KW has made.

QUOTE (chisox2334 @ Jan 5, 2009 -> 07:47 PM) not question your credibilty... but you just joined the site and posted w sox fav for jones... which no one has picked up...... and this rumor is same ..... no media outlets, no other sites reporting it as well Burrell and Giambi are pretty good though too. I have no problem with the report...not a misleading title, citing a source, and merely asking opinions. If it turns out to be false, which is likely, then it's false. Big whoop.

the Twins also have a perennially good minor league system. Just within the past 2 years, they've had Baker, Blackburn, Slowey, and Perkins step up and become legitimate major league starting pitchers, and they have more on the way too. I also don't see Bonser getting another chance to start in Minnesota. Somewhere else he might, but he'll be a reliever for them. If he can avoid the long ball, which is a huge question mark, he'll be a damn good reliever.

quick guess Iwamura - 2B Upton - CF Longoria - 3B Pena - 1B Burrell - DH Crawford - LF Navarro - C Joyce - RF Bartlett - SS looks like a lineup that could score 800 runs. That's some much needed power in the middle of their lineup.

QUOTE (Maury @ Jan 4, 2009 -> 01:25 AM) Defense was great. His plate presence , situational hitting, and baserunning are as bad as it gets. Fields was hurt last year and his glove is not as good but I'm sure everything else is better. We'll never know if they would have been better with out, but I'll always remember Juan's great catch in the World Series that ESPN ignores because it wasnt Jeter and his overall good defense. Beside that, he's a dumb baseball player. He can catch a ball and free swing at garbage. Plate presence and base running I'll agree with. Uribe was actually a damn good situational hitter though. In 08, he had a .338 average with RISP, .290 average with men on base, .218 with the bases empty. For his career he's at .277 with RISP, .275 with men on, and .238 with the bases empty. It's why his RBI numbers have always been pretty solid even though he almost always hits .240.

I imagine if the Sox and O's were talking that they did ask for an infielder as well, all driven by Angelos. The dude asks for a ton in return for trades, especially his stars. Tejada wasn't traded for any big time prospects and it was after the Mitchell Report came out, and on top of that his contract was pretty mediocre for an overrated infielder, and he still got 5 players out of the Astros.

QUOTE (scenario @ Jan 5, 2009 -> 03:56 PM) Lowe will get more than $12M. Remember, that's the offer he turned down. Things have been slow, but the free agent feeding frenzy looks like it's starting to pick up a little. That doesn't mean the money will be there. I bet Lowe gets $13-14 mill a year and Garland winds up getting $8-9. I'd also be more inclined to believe that a lot of the young-ish players, such as Garland, will take 1 year offers to build up their value. Sheets might fit into that category as well, but he had a pretty damn good year last year so I don't know how much more he can build up his value.