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QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Jul 27, 2008 -> 07:37 PM) Anyone know the status on Carlos "Sox Killer" Gomez? I never want to win due to injury, but I'll take him being out for 15 days. Why is it that people don't want to win because of injury? Would people prefer to lose when the other team is healthy? Just honestly curious I don't give a s*** whether opposing players are injured or not. I don't wish it upon them, but if they are injured, I'm not going to say I'm saddened by any stretch of the imagination, and if said injury helps my team win more games, then it's even better. At the end of the day, I'll take the win whether the opponent is healthy or not.

QUOTE (Princess Dye @ Jul 27, 2008 -> 01:57 AM) What if we see Quintana in the semis? He's a pederast. yea, but that creep can f***in' roll. You said it man. Nobody f***s with the Carlos.

QUOTE (Reddy @ Jul 26, 2008 -> 11:44 PM) without another SP we dont win this year. end of story. I'm not only going to disagree, I'm going to say that (I believe) you are flat out wrong. The Tigers have no rotation to speak of at all, outside of Verlander, and the Twins rotation features like 3 first year MLB starters. Personally, I think the Sox are going to walk away with the division, and I could honestly even see them backing into a division title...I could see Detroit trying to gather whatever pieces they have and making a run for a starting pitcher at the last second to prevent the Sox from countering, but the only type of starting pitcher I see the Sox needing right now is a 6th starter. I've said that all along. Anybody that thinks the Sox "weakness" is the starting pitching, I feel, is wrong. I see Floyd and Danks struggling a bit down the stretch, but I think Vazquez will rebound, Contreras will pitch well enough, and Buehrle will remain very solid down the stretch. I'd let Richard remain on the roster for the remainder of the year, letting him get about 5 starts between the time Contreras gets back from the DL and the end of the year, taking a start every now and then from Floyd and Danks, and in the meantime, working in blowouts. I've no idea what Liriano's slider looks like right now, but seeing as how that's the pitch that made him throw his arm out in the first place, I can't imagine it's nearly as good anymore. Jimmy might not be able to catch up to 97 coming from the left side, but Quentin and Dye sure as hell can. No, I don't think the Sox need to make a trade. I think KW will make one, because he has to fuel an addiction and a streak of making atleast one move a year, but I don't think it's necessary.

QUOTE (Gregory Pratt @ Jul 26, 2008 -> 04:10 PM) It's a thorough and intellectual criticism of a faulty claim. "Five to ten years." Yeah, for a guy who's been good but not that good at all. Good but not that good at all? What does that even mean, honestly? Because I don't get it. Perhaps 5-10 years is extreme...I don't care, because it's less extreme than saying he'll flame out and be out of baseball within the next 5 years. He's posted a 3.57 ERA in 125 or so innings and, over his past 13 starts, which is just over 80 innings (an average of just over 6 innings a start), has seen his K/9 increase dramatically, has seen his BB/9 decrease dramatically, and he has a 3.70 ERA during that time period; what's funny is that I'd argue that was during his regression to the mean, seeing as how his H/9 and HR/9 began to increase tremendously as well. You and I always get quite heated over Gavin, and it's simply because I don't understand why you refuse to give credit to him. He has a solid fastball, both 4 and 2 seamers, a curveball that's a plus pitch when it's working, and a changeup that's also a plus pitch when it's working. His control has been good, he's begun to strike people out, and the only problem I'd imagine he's having nowadays is that he'll hang curveballs or get his fastball up, because neither are consistent/good enough that hitters will miss them when he makes mistakes with them. He's also never really had any injuries in his history, and his mechanics look good enough that he shouldn't have serious injuries. So, all that said, yes, I firmly believe Gavin Floyd will be a solid #2-4 starter in the big leagues for 5-10 years. That basically says I see him making it to free agency. It's not that hard to believe.

QUOTE (AWhiteSoxinNJ @ Jul 26, 2008 -> 01:08 PM) Have you seen the two years before this one like I have watching Philly a lot. It's great that he is doing well and it's been a total surprise, but let's not get carried away here. Yeah, pitchers struggle. You apparently can't put the past behind you and understand that pitchers can change and grow and become good after they have figured it out under different coaching. His peripherals are much better, his ERA is good, he's pitching deep into ball games, and his stuff is pretty damn good too...yet for whatever reason you can't let go of the past. Gavin Floyd is a good starting pitcher and will probably be a solid #2-4 from this point on for 5-10 years. But because he struggled for a couple years, he's going to struggle for all of time. That makes sense, because that's not what pitchers like Halladay do.......

I don't like how that bench looks, but it's obviously just a rough estimation, so nothing is concrete. I also wonder whether the Sox would be hurting themselves slightly defensively by putting Ramirez out in CF rather than at SS or 2B...he's obviously decent out there if he started the first two games of the season, but it'd just be weird to see him switching around so much.

QUOTE (Frankensteiner @ Jul 26, 2008 -> 01:58 AM) Swisher has a good OBP but he does not hit for above average power. His .763 OPS means he's at best middle of the road in hitting. He's got potential to be better of course judging by his prior seasons but no way would I classify him as a stud in a Sox uniform. I judge players based on what I have seen of them, both in numbers and with my eyes. Carlos Quentin is a stud, and I can tell after 100+ games and looking at his numbers; Nick Swisher is a stud, but it's more than just the 100 games he's played this year. He hasn't hit particularly well, but his .763 OPS is good for a 103 OPS+, meaning he's an above average hitter, and he's still hitting in the .230s. I expect him to be up around .250 by the end of the season, but even if he's not, he's still a good defender in CF, he gets on base, he DOES hit for above average power - his ISO of just under .180 is the worst of his career, and he's still going to end up with somewhere around 20-25 homers on the season with around 25-30 doubles (I think you'd agree that Paul Konerko displayed above average power in 2002, yet his ISO is very similar to that of what Swisher has done this year). Anyways, I'm done explaining that point; he doesn't hit for average, and that's what hurts him. On top of what he's done this year, he's also put up OPS+'s of 125 and 127 in the past two years (odd, because his OPS's were, respectively, .865 and .836 in those years...offense was down last year and it seems like it might be worse this year); there's a track record to be looked at. Swisher's game only depends upon his ability to judge pitches coming at him. He does that pretty damn well, seeing as how he's on pace to walk like 100 times again this season, and that's something that generally never leaves you, unlike bat speed or power at the plate. Every year he's going to show up, produce at an above average level, and help you win games; if he hits for anything resembling a decent average, his OBP and SLG would improve dramatically and you'd probably be looking at a legitimate cleanup hitter. So, like I said, Swisher's a stud - above average OBP, above average power, good defense at a premium position, and the fact that he's great in the clubhouse helps matters a lot too. The only thing that really detracts from him is his inability to hit for a decent average, but he more than makes up for that with power and walks.

QUOTE (3E8 @ Jul 25, 2008 -> 11:50 PM) I'd be surprised and disappointed to see Getz starting at 2B very much agree I'd expect and be content with him coming off the bench next year, getting time at perhaps 5 or 6 different spots on the field.

QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Jul 25, 2008 -> 10:38 PM) Beyond 2005, give me reasons why we shouldn't treat him that way. Beyond this season, give me reasons why you should boo Paul Konerko. There, back at you. I do not believe Brian Anderson is pictured

QUOTE (Heads22 @ Jul 25, 2008 -> 09:44 PM) I dunno if we have any more vacancies.... not really...if anything, we have a bit of a waiting list, which is strange. It'll probably be back to normal again within a couple seasons though.

QUOTE (Frankensteiner @ Jul 25, 2008 -> 07:31 PM) In what world does Nick Swisher look like a stud? He gets on base at about a .350-.360 clip, hits for above average power, and does so while playing pretty good defense at a premium position. That's a stud to me. It's not in Carlos Quentin territory, but Swisher's a player I want on the team for 3-5 more years.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 24, 2008 -> 04:13 PM) Keith Law says Alexei is below averge defensively at every position he plays. Keith Law also says Josh Fields can hit a fastball.

QUOTE (bighurt4life @ Jul 25, 2008 -> 12:31 PM) I hate to be a wet blanket but he does have 20 errors on the season so far. it's been covered...he's learning 3B and so there are mistakes and errors to be expected. The goal is to see if he can improve himself at the position to where he's adequate and the bat is good.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jul 23, 2008 -> 06:07 AM) Ok, then give KW best GM in the AL Central. That I can see. But best GM in baseball? If you're just counting on the results of the crap shoot that is the playoffs, you have to give it to Epstein. I'm still not seeing what criteria makes KW the best GM. I'm not arguing as to whether he's the best GM in baseball. That distinction belongs to Billy Beane and I don't see anyone even close. The man is rebuilding and selling pieces off this season and his team is still 3 games over .500. That team is loaded and ready to go on a monster run starting next season, if he ever wants to stop selling pieces off.

QUOTE (knightni @ Jul 24, 2008 -> 05:58 PM) If you're bad enough to be replaced by Chambers, something's up. Same Chris Chambers who has never had fewer than 677 receiving yards in a season, caught 66 balls last year for 970 yards? Not sure what you're thinking, Chambers is a damn good #2 receiver.

Hot Chicks in Sports...I think we created something here Phil.

QUOTE (tonyho7476 @ Jul 25, 2008 -> 10:02 AM) Sorry Mrs. Contreras. I actually think it's spot on and that you seem to have some sort of unadmitted disdain for Contreras because he's a streaky pitcher. People seem to forget that in June and July of 2005, Contreras had an ERA of 5.76 and his ERA for the year on July 31st was 4.58. He pitched so well down the stretch that he dropped nearly a full run off of his ERA. Some say Contreras looks dead in the water; I say he looks like he's in one of his streaks. Hopefully down the stretch he gets hot again.

QUOTE (jackie hayes @ Jul 25, 2008 -> 09:04 AM) From Marisa Miller's wikipedia page: I ain't no liar. ok maybe she wins

The Sox were asking for a very valuable piece and the Red Sox were apparently considering it. There's no other way around it. Like I have said a few times, KW's not an idiot and he understands that Uribe's a valuable player. He's not just going to give him away. There's a method to his madness. Let's hope that this small move, however, doesn't end plan A, plan B, all the way down the line to plan Z.

I expect nothing less than 2 of 3; Robertson has been terrible this year, Miner is a swingman (who somehow puts up low ERAs with WHIPs in the 1.4's), and Verlander is a big time fastball pitcher, which the Sox eat for breakfast. I wouldn't necessarily focus on "smallball" per se, but I would look to score runs whenever and wherever the opportunity presented itself, and not merely the 3-run homer. The offday was nice because they'll be ready to go and primed to kill in game 1 of the series, rather than jetlagged and tired. Feast on the lefty (this would be a game where having Josh Fields on the roster would be nice), kill the fastball, and then put runs up against Miner, and hope all 3 starters are ready to pitch their asses off.

She's blonde, she was a cheerleader (or dancer? either one is fantastic), she's gorgeous, and she loves sports. You find me a more attractive woman than that, and I'll call you a filthy liar.

I want Albert Pujols trimming my bushes and hitting 100 homers for the White Sox while I win the lottery, am given the keys to a new Corvette, and Adriana Lima AND Erin Andrews stand at my doorstep telling me that they had a premonition that they needed to be with me, if just for one night...but none of that is going to happen.

People need to be more on the fence with Hamilton, and not so much on one side or the other. He made a terrible choice, and he should not be commended for that. He has been sober for probably 3 or 4 years now, and for that he should be commended, which brings him right back to civilized humanity and not anywhere near a god-like status that some (no one in particular but people around the country) have deemed him to be. Thus, he should be judged equally compared to everyone else in the league. He shouldn't win the MVP because of his history, and I think if he won the MVP this season, that's exactly what would be happening, because he does not have better overall numbers, outside of like RBI and average, than CQ, and he's not on a first place team, unlike CQ. He should win it because he is clearly, cut and dry, far and away the best player in the AL, similar to ARod's MVP with the Rangers; that's not the case, and he shouldn't win the MVP this season (4 months into the season). Great story, great player, but not the best in the AL and he doesn't deserve the MVP. Is that on the fence enough to where everyone can be happy?

QUOTE (Jimbo's Drinker @ Jul 24, 2008 -> 03:37 PM) Again, you cannot mix your emotions with the 05 team with the current status of Paulie. It pains me to see him suck so bad, but the team does not have the luxury to wait for him to get it going. For the most part he has been an easy out in the middle of our lineup. You can't mix your emotions? Bullf***. You can mix any and all emotions with Paul Konerko when it comes to 2005...without him, that team is dead in the water in the ALCS. He essentially single handedly won 2 games in Anaheim because he put the Sox up to a comfortable lead early, the pitchers worked with ease, and the rest of the offense relaxed and put up more runs the rest of the game. If he doesn't hit those homers, the Sox could very easily have lost that series. Hell, his 3 run homer in game 3 was the deciding blow in the entire affair; without it, the game could have very easily gone to extras, and that's only if you believe in pre-determined destiny (which I don't). Were you booing Mark Buehrle during the second half of 2006? Just honestly curious, really. You can't mix the 2005 viewpoints and overall ability of Paul Konerko with what he's doing now; I think it's silly to say he's washed up and over the hill at the new senior citizen age of 32, but players have fallen off the stage at 32 before and Konerko could and well likely is one; I think he's very comparable to Eric Karros, and Karros was a mediocre or worse player from age 32 and on. That doesn't mean he is Eric Karros and it doesn't mean he can't turn his game around. With this, every and anything else shall be moved to the Paul Konerko thread. It's time to bring something else up in this thread. If you have a response Jimbo, and I hope you do, address me in the Konerko thread and I'll get to it.

oh, and can we please 86 the term "under the radar"? I've grown so goddamn sick and tired of that word over the past 5 years, and every time I hear it, I just want to shatter a beer bottle over my head.