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QUOTE (joesaiditstrue @ May 22, 2008 -> 04:57 PM) and we've never faced laffey (have we?) doesn't look good to me. This has been stated by a few others for the previous 3-4 games. Just saying.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ May 22, 2008 -> 04:22 PM) And those balls in play aren't LD's have been poorly-hit balls. If you are just barely making contact and rolling over on pitches, your BABIP is going to be bad. That doesn't mean you're unlucky. Yeah, but his LD% is at his career norm...meaning he's been unlucky thus far and will almost assuredly have his luck improve in the future.

QUOTE (watchtower41 @ May 22, 2008 -> 04:32 PM) Magglio and Sheff would be outstanding bench players on this team. I will also go ahead and nominate Javy Lopez for back-up catcher and Boomer Wells to fill the 5th spot in the rotation. I couldn't see David Wells injecting himself with steroids. I could see him injecting himself with a liquefied jelly donut, but not steroids.

When even BP is singing their praises, you know the Sox are doing something right. I still think Roberts/Durham/Freel/Sanchez would do a lot for this team at 2B.

QUOTE (BearSox @ May 22, 2008 -> 03:40 PM) Did I ever tell anyone that I hate sabermetrics? Line drive percentage isn't sabermetrics. BABIP really isn't sabermetrics either. Those are more or less indicators of success/failure for pitchers/hitters.

Tony Reagins said he isn't moving Figgins and hasn't talked to Kenny about it. It's been posted in this thread. /thread

how does Tom Collaro's AAP thread have 87 replies?

SHAKE THAT LAFFEY TAFFEY

QUOTE (fathom @ May 21, 2008 -> 08:10 PM) It would be nice to have a lefty middle infielder we can play once in a while against righties with huge splits, like Paul Byrd. I just think it would be good to have a lefty bat on the bench, regardless of where he plays. Hell, I just want another bat on the bench.

I really don't understand the obsession with Sanchez. If he's not hitting .300+, he's not really a good player. He's also the type of player where strikeouts play a big part in his success...if he's keeping the bat on the ball a ton, he'll be good. Otherwise, he could end up very mediocre. I'd say wait it out a bit...let Ramirez hang out at 2B for a while and see if he can keep hitting. If not, find someone, be it Durham, Roberts, Sanchez, Freel, or whomever.

QUOTE (LVSoxFan @ May 21, 2008 -> 04:02 PM) A 71% success rate at stealing is "mediocre"? Wow. Tough crowd. I agree that CQ is what's making this team UN-like 2007. Who knows where we'd be if he hadn't come along and Owens were in? 75% is considered the break even point. Add to it that this is at AAA and not the MLB, and it makes it even worse. 71% is mediocre as hell. QUOTE (JohnCangelosi @ May 21, 2008 -> 05:29 PM) How many people really believe that CQ would have gone down to AAA instead of Anderson though? Even before Owens got hurt I didn't think that was a guarantee...not in the least, especially with how much we knew KW liked him. Which brings up another note....where are all the KW haters now??? If I am him, I say "how do ya like me now b****?" ;-) Quentin really should never step anywhere near CF. So, yeah Anderson would have been in the majors.

Figgins is also hitting the ball well and finding ways to get on base, hence his .306 average and .421 OBP (3rd in the AL). I really doubt Figgins is going anywhere and this is just space filler. I also don't think this is the right time to trade Crede either.

but Thome sucks?

Boxers or briefs? Or thong?

QUOTE (fathom @ May 21, 2008 -> 08:53 PM) So Pujols hits a liner off of Chris Young, and he has to leave the game. Then, on a play at the plate, he slides in hard to Josh Bard, and Bard probably tore his knee. one man wrecking crew

QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ May 21, 2008 -> 11:41 AM) Gagne is as qualified as anybody. He was an undrafted nobody in the Dodgers system, suddenly and randomly gained 7 MPH on his fastball and a biting slider, missed almost two full seasons (2005 and 2006) to injury after three dominant seasons, and now has not been able to get people out since he came back despite only being 31 and now 32 years old. Gagne actually was drafted...by the White Sox. Didn't sign, and then he signed with the Dodgers.

QUOTE (Whitewashed in '05 @ May 21, 2008 -> 09:39 PM) What happened to DLS? via rotoworld...I lied it was actually straight up A ball where he was pitching...dated back to May 4th

QUOTE (lostfan @ May 21, 2008 -> 04:34 PM) Paris Hilton says hi. Atleast Locklear is hot. Paris doesn't even have that anymore.

JD is so lovely and good looking

so what happened?

QUOTE (Reddy @ May 21, 2008 -> 07:17 PM) see tonight. The White Sox hit good fastballs. They are terrible against junk pitchers. Does this really surprise you? Over the past 4-5 years, Byrd has absolutely owned the White Sox, so seeing him shutting down the Sox tonight really doesn't surprise me at all and it shouldn't surprise anyone.

QUOTE (kwolf68 @ May 21, 2008 -> 05:09 PM) Yet and Sweeney in his first starting gig still has a better OPS, OBP, average, and slugging percentage while only having FOUR fewer extra base hits than Swisher in about 50 fewer at bats. A career .250-something hitter is "far more" talented than Sweeney? Hardly. Swisher is a NICE player, but is not an elite talent by any means. What you see is what you get with Swisher...good guy, .250 average, some power, not much else. Sweeney could turn out to be terrible, but could also turn out to be a .300+ hitter playing superior defense (as evidenced by early returns). Swisher is the more proven commodity right now, but contrary to your point the far greater upside is with Sweeney. Perhaps "talented" was the wrong word to use. Perhaps "productive" is better. Swisher has much, much more power potential and has gotten on base at a .360 clip in his career; if he hits .250, he's putting up OPS's in the .850 range, and if he hits better, it only rises. I'll also disagree that the greater upside is with Sweeney...until he starts hitting .320, I don't see him doing much at the plate other than singling much. QUOTE (BearSox @ May 21, 2008 -> 05:52 PM) That's 6 extra base hits compared to Swisher's 10 in 50 more AB's than Sweeney. Also, for someone with such a little amount of extra base hits, he has drove in 6 more runs. However, Swisher has double the amount of runs (24 to 12). Also, Swisher is on pace to have 140 some K's (albeit 100+ walks). I don't care what anyone says, K's are bad and unless you can hit more than 20-30 homers, and drive in more than 80 runs, having that many strikeouts is no good. Swisher has also led off half the year with Uribe and Crede hitting in front of him - it's understandable as to why he doesn't have many runs driven in. He's also in a hella slump right now which contributes to it as well. Strikeouts aren't good, but they really aren't a whole hell of a lot different than flying or grounding out. It would be nice if he could put the ball in play a bit more, but that's just not his game and it's not what he does. If he hits his 25-30 homers and walks 100 times again, he can strike out 150 times and it won't make a huge difference to me. I'd bet a hell of a lot of money that Swisher's end of season stats blow Sweeney's out of the water. Until he starts hitting for power, he's no different than Sean Burroughs. Sweeney will stick around because he can play CF, but that doesn't mean he's good offensively. I don't suck the cocks of players (other than Carlos Quentin) - I merely look at them objectively, and I realize that Nick Swisher has been a very productive player throughout his entire career. He's not a special player, but he's a damn good player when he's playing well, and that's all that matters to me. Average player...LOL. Average players don't put up OPS+ of 115 throughout their entire career. I also don't understand what the difference between arm & range and defense is...arm and range ARE defense. And it's not far superior because Swisher has been pretty damn good in CF. Mediocre arm, but he's been a pleasant surprise defensively. If by all the potential in the world you mean he'll be a good 2 or 3 hitter if everything works out for him, then sure, hundreds of guys have all the potential in the world. The talent he is missing is strength. Without strength, he'll almost assuredly be a pretty mediocre hitter throughout his entire career. And perhaps the biggest reason he fell to the second round was signability issues, not whether there was concern about him pitching or hitting. People were afraid he was going to go to college and didn't want to waste a pick on him in the first 3 rounds if he wasn't going to sign. The Sox took a chance and it paid off. Alex Rios, Bill Mueller...those seem to be good comparisons to Sweeney. Good players, but they weren't players you'd ever build around. Swisher isn't either, but if he ever figures out how to hit for any sort of average, he is probably a guy that you can build around. Perhaps from a pure baseball perspective, Sweeney is more talented than Swisher, but production wise, I'll take Swisher 10 times out of 10. DLS is a reliever and his arm is all sorts of f***ed up. He had like a 5.50 ERA in AA and has been shutdown. I really don't think you're missing him that badly.

QUOTE (Lemon_44 @ May 21, 2008 -> 06:46 PM) This isn't really bench insurance.It's trade for a guy who starts but can be played at different positions in the infield. I would like to see the Sox make a run at Freddy Sanchez from Pittsburgh. He's playing 2B right now because of a sore shoulder lingering from surgery. When healthy,he can play 3B occasionally while Ramirez/ Richar can play 2B.Dr. Andrews said there is no structural damage to his shoulder and Sanchez says it's getting stronger every day. Sanchez is also leading off for Pitt so that's a role he could fill with the Sox as well. His value is probably at a low right now and Pitt is dropping out of the race. He's making 4+mill this year so they may look to move him. I don't know what the Bucs asking price would be but with Broadway lighting it up, maybe him and another top prospect may get it done. Plus,the Sox had pretty decent luck when trading for another guy coming off a repaired shoulder in CQ. As far as I'm concerned, the only hole on the team right now is the bench. 2B can be upgraded, but it has a competent starter in Alexei, and every other position is filled with a solid player.

QUOTE (BearSox @ May 21, 2008 -> 04:51 PM) I tend to disagree as most everyone here knows how highly I thought of Sweeney. 6 extra base hits all season...yeah, let me help you suck on his schlong a while too. :rolly Swisher's a far more talented player, and it's a matter of him getting his swing figured out. The potential is much, much greater for Swisher than it is Sweeney.

QUOTE (LVSoxFan @ May 21, 2008 -> 01:56 PM) It is? Up until six games ago: -Feast-or-famine offense -No base stealing threats/speed -No opposite field hitting/bunting -No leadoff hitter -Total lack of run production resulting in gem starter performances being wasted -Aging, slugger performers in the middle of the lineup not getting anything going -No decent backup catcher Sound familiar? Granted, things are going better now and cheers to Ozzie for messing with the lineup, which seems to have done the trick. But let's talk in a month. Not trying to be negative; just taking a wait-and-see attitude. you missed a couple -no Aaron Rowand -no SMALL BALL