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Ozzie's been in Arizona for almost a couple weeks; other than by way of phone or e-mail, he would have no way of communicating with Bartolo at all. I hope/think this deal is pretty close, and that the initial source, whatever the hell its name is, just jumped the gun a bit. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to see Colon in White Sox camp within the next 48-72 hours.

I'd love Roberts; he's a hell of a second basemen and a person I'd like at the top of the order. However, what I take it Keith means is that people find it absolutely necessary that the Sox find a legitimate leadoff hitter, when really the leadoff hitter itself only leads off once, maybe twice a game. The people that want to give up Danks+Richar for Roberts are the people I will disagree with completely. I also don't feel that Roberts is the final piece of the puzzle, and that the Sox shouldn't trade any of their young depth for a 30 year old second basemen who was mentioned in the Mitchell Report. If you could pick up Roberts for spare parts, or if the team were in a little better shape both in the minors or at the major league level, I'd be all for it; given the current state of the White Sox, that's just not the case.

There's no way the Sox guaranteed him a second year. If anything, there will be an option for a second year.

QUOTE(BurlyMan56 @ Feb 19, 2008 -> 10:41 PM) If this is true and Bart is signed with the intention of being in the rotation. Does the whole Crede to San Fran thing change? Rumors of the Sox supposedly getting Lowry or a Sanchez for him would probably die down. We would then go for 2 prospects or so, which I feel is what we're getting back anyways. The most the Sox would have gotten was Lowry, and it proved not even Sabean was that dumb. The Sox will get a prospect or two for Crede, and these prospects will not be considered world beaters.

QUOTE(The Ginger Kid @ Feb 19, 2008 -> 05:34 PM) I totally agree, don't get me wrong. But who would bring more value at this time? I think it's Fields. So then what happens in 2009 when the White Sox have no 3Bman at all? It's not about f***in value, it's about getting something for a player who is going to be gone next year.

QUOTE(soxwon @ Feb 19, 2008 -> 10:39 AM) Preach-Someone call for Da Reverand!!!! Well ill preach-a to da choir of sox a fan-a. Dis My Brotha's n Sista's Of da palehose, is Da Year we goes All Da Way to The Promised Land. Another Series for us in 08. You must have faith-A and BELIEVE in KW !!! Da Baseball Gods have declared to me, In Baseball Heaven It is our year to Celebrate-A in October. Believe-A My Children-Have Faith In Da Rev and Da Sox's. Uh

I was once moshing by myself to my friend playing drums and some random dude playing guitar singing a 'song,' if you want to call it that, entitled "I want to poop on your face." Yeah, I'm that cool

QUOTE(ChiSox35 @ Feb 17, 2008 -> 06:38 PM) What I should have said is that we seem to have a lot more problems with KC than we ought to be having, winning record or not. A .649 winning percentage would lead to a 162 game record of 106-56; that's winning every series. The Sox haven't had that many problems with KC. It will be different this year because KC is getting quite a bit better.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Feb 18, 2008 -> 10:34 AM) Would you consider Ron Gardenhire to be a pretty good manager? Well I hope not, he didn't even play in the bigs. How can he possibly relate to the modern professional athlete? He never lived that life. Ron Gardenhire, playing career 777 career PA's...thats why hes good

QUOTE(Rex Hudler @ Feb 17, 2008 -> 10:22 PM) White Castle tastes good after a long night at the bar, but that does not mean it belongs in a discussion about good eats. Casey's is pretty good though

QUOTE(Reddy @ Feb 17, 2008 -> 11:30 AM) last year their projection was for... wait for it... 72-90 what was our record? and they got lucky

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Feb 16, 2008 -> 11:53 PM) '01: 14-5 vs KC '02: 11-8 vs KC '03: 11-8 vs KC '04: 13-6 vs KC '05: 13-5 vs KC '06: 11-8 vs KC '07: 12-6 vs KC 85-46 over the past 7 seasons that's a .649 win% If managing a .351 win% against a team over 7 year period is "making them your b****" then the Sox have been the league's designated b**** of the 21 century since I doubt they have a better win% against any other opponent over that timespan. but dude Mike Sweeney and Mendy Lopez

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Actually, from what the resident doctor has said, this surgery is actually a pretty small deal, and that Crede should be good. That's not to say it's not going to be a chronic condition, just that he should be fine for this year. Not to be a complete devil's advocate or anything, but just saying...I'm not about to sign him to a 5 year deal, just that he should be pretty productive, given that he's coming back from a year off, this year. Also, jackie, what bighurt said

QUOTE(BearSox @ Feb 16, 2008 -> 09:41 PM) Javy is by far my favorite pitcher. So you're not wrong all the time QUOTE(greg775 @ Feb 17, 2008 -> 02:25 AM) I voted for Mark. Man, that's an impressive list. I hate to say this ... but Oz, can't you find a way to win and win big with those core players? Greg, what happened to the short paragraphs? That set you apart from everyone.

Does Sisco have an option left or not? jc

Didn't PECOTA (and Will Carroll, for that matter) get lucky as s*** last year with their predicted W/L? They picked 72-90, sure, but as I recall, they said the Sox would have a good offense and like one of the 2-3 worst pitching staffs in the league; that wasn't completely the opposite, as the pitching was bad, but the Sox had like the worst offense in the AL last year. I'm not a PECOTA guy, and while I do enjoy their projections and such, I don't buy into their W/L. You obviously have to look around at other projections a bit to see further what the Sox should expect; beyond even that, you have to understand that they are looking at a pitcher like Buehrle - who always, without fail, projects poorly going into the season - in a negative light. There are circumstances where a pitcher will almost always pitch "over" his head, and where a pitcher, such as Havier Vazquez, will almost always pitch "under" his head. Regardless, these predictions don't mean much; if Floyd/Danks/Conteras pitch well, the Sox should be a contender. If they pitch like s***, it's worse than 79-83, and it could be quite a bit worse.

Why the hell would they want Inge? He's not very good, he's got an ugly contract, and he's going to cost more than Crede. If I'm the Giants, I much prefer Crede to Inge.

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QUOTE(SoxPride56 @ Feb 15, 2008 -> 10:42 AM) And one is gaurenteed NOT to happen, but since this thread is wild or bold, here it goes: -Fields and more are traded before the season starts for Brian Roberts Thankfully, this will not happen, seeing as how Fields' value is currently almost twice that of Roberts.

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Feb 15, 2008 -> 01:28 PM) So, I took today off to make this 3-day weekend a 4-day weekend. I'm currently having some beer and blasting my new itower. just make sure after a few of those beers you dont try and light a cigarette with a stove, because youll likely burn yourself

QUOTE(CanOfCorn @ Feb 15, 2008 -> 10:46 AM) Oh yeah, I realize that now...I think you missed the fact that I was drunk. On Capt. Morgan. Yikes. YOU CAN PUT IT ON THE BOARDDDDDDDD YESSSSS

QUOTE(CanOfCorn @ Feb 14, 2008 -> 07:59 PM) AJ becomes the next Sean Casey. Becomes the mayor of Chicago and is considered by many to be one of the nicest in baseball? I dig it. QUOTE(Kalapse @ Feb 14, 2008 -> 09:07 PM) Havy Vazquez: Jas jimself an All Star caliber first half You missed half silly goose QUOTE(SoxFanForever @ Feb 14, 2008 -> 09:45 PM) The team will have it's longest winning streak ever. thats a long winning streak. Let's go for half of it first

QUOTE(BobDylan @ Feb 15, 2008 -> 03:13 AM) I do that all the time. The key isn't to have the cigarette in your mouth when you do it. Singe the tip, rip it up to your face as fast as you can and suck in. Works like a charm. EDIT: You have to singe the entire tip. Like you do a cigar. I mean, you have to... Ah, f*** it. Why am I giving advice for something that's stupid to do? Cuz you can impress chicks Well, that is, if they dont mind a guy that smokes.

QUOTE(bmags @ Feb 15, 2008 -> 01:53 AM) If you all ever need anything, my email will be in my name here. echo that sentiment, though mines [email protected] sure thats my email on here Thoughts and prayers remain with all of you; stay safe.