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QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ May 7, 2007 -> 02:21 PM) Suzyn Waldman nearly kills everyone listening to her scratchy voice. OMG, this lady makes Ron Santo, sound like one of the 4 Tenors. Her voice is enough to wake up the dead, never mind her yelling like a child when Roger shows up in the box. They played this on the Boers and Berstein show, and I had to find it. THE DEVIL LIVES

QUOTE(joeynach @ May 7, 2007 -> 01:19 PM) Yep this team, meaning KW needs to recognize when a player or players have downright ridiculously awesome years that aren't in flux with their career numbers, its an aberration not an upward trend. We see it over and over again. Very rare does a guy bust out with a great year thats not on par at all with his year to year to year numbers and then maintain that forever. Doesn't happen. Dye and Crede are examples last year; Hermanson, Cotts, Politte, Garland (ERA) in 2005. And its not just our team it happens all the time, look at Morgan Ensberg he had that monster year in 2005 then what. Adrian Beltre, Brady Anderson, even Justin Morneau (we will see), Johnny Peralta, Bobby Crosby, Eric Chavez, etc. Its called regression towards the mean in logical terms. A good GM and organization would plan that following a guys one and only monster year that regression towards the mean is more likely than the player just putting up those career years #'s for the rest of his playing time. and then what happens when you trade David Ortiz or Travis Hafner? You are, what I like to refer to, jumping to conclusions. It's May 7th and you're already writing Dye, Crede, and Morneau off for the entire year. Why?

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ May 7, 2007 -> 11:55 AM) If one of our guys put up those numbers in his first outing, we'd be calling for him to be sent back down right away and wondering why we can't draft anyone quality. I also haven't seen a guy come up within the White Sox system that had stuff like Lincecum's.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ May 7, 2007 -> 11:21 AM) Someone can call me on this if they disagree, but I also wouldn't think that the Halos would be that interested in blocking Brandon Wood's path to the majors, considering they recently moved him to 3rd base in the minors because that's wehre the big league team needed a person. If Joe ever starts hitting, another interesting slot could be the other LA Team, the Dodgers, who have been struggling with the bats of late and who haven't gotten much out of Wilson Betemit this year. If we're talking about having replacements very close to ready, you have to look at Andy LaRoche too. They just recently called him up.

QUOTE(caulfield12 @ May 7, 2007 -> 09:55 AM) Only if we have Eckstein at SS, Miles at 2B, Rowand in LF, Erstad in RF, Byrnes or Kotsay in CF...maybe Scott Brosius at 3B and Sean Casey or Scott Hatteberg at 1B. Jack Morris and Mark Buehrle will head the staff. The grinderness will be unequaled.

QUOTE(fathom @ May 7, 2007 -> 09:29 AM) Please no Chone. I couldn't handle the compliments all season from Hawk about him. so what kind of pain would we be in if the Sox signed Eckstein in the offseason?

So is it bad that I had to think like 5 seconds before I knew it was Samuel Clemens? and that I didn't know that until I was like in 10th grade?

My dad has actually gotten live footage of a tornado, and I've definitely seen the beginning of the formation of a funnel cloud. Let me just say it's not really a cool thing to see when you are at a softball complex with no shelter in sight. We got out of their in time, but at some point it turns quickly from "cool" to "I wonder if that thing is actually dangerous." There was no tornado that day, but I recall like an hour later a crazy ass thunderstorm.

I really like the thought of Figgins, because he's due to atleast get on at a respectable clip, has the speed to steal 50 bases, and has a bit of pop in his bat as well. The problem then becomes where he gets playing time, whether at 3B or LF (I would assume 3B mainly because Sweeney is looking like a legitamate bottom of the order hitter this year, even if he is a bit mediocre defensively there). It also gets Erstad out of the leadoff spot, which means he would still likely remain at 2, even though Iguchi is the best 2 hitter in the lineup; that's beyond the point, because Erstad is a better 2 hitter than he is leadoff hitter, and I become atleast slightly satisfied. It would also spend the end of the Podsednik era in Chicago, which would be outstanding for the team because he just doesn't serve much of a purpose at all anymore. I'm also not sure how high the organization is on Logan, but they most definitely really like Sisco, and they did sign Thornton to a contract extension in the offseason, so I imagine they probably like him a bit too. If Anaheim would do Crede and Logan for Figgins and Morales/Aybar, I'm not sure how the White Sox can turn it down. The problem is that I'm not sure how willing the Angels would be to trade off a 50+ steal guy along with a solid prospect for a 3Bman hitting .210 and a rookie reliever who some think may be a LOOGY long term. And from everything I've ever read and seen from Kendrick, it'd be just about impossible to get him. Regardless, I'd love to get Figgins because he'd be a capable leadoff hitter, and I'd love to get one of their middle infield prospects. I've also come to like Willits too (I'm sure beautox is just loving me saying that), so if he could be acquired for anything close to cheap, it would be a steal.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ May 7, 2007 -> 12:38 AM) The Angels are apparently getting very serious about making a big trade for a 3rd baseman and I still think Crede makes a lot of sense. The Angels also have an assload of prospects (middle infield) plus guys like Kochman/Morales...both of whom I wouldn't mind. The key is, this deal would be a lot easier to sign off on if Fields was developing down in AAA. I'm talking a Aybar/Morales for Crede. I don't think they bite, but than the Sox could come in and offer up one of there three lefties in the pen and I think at that point the Angels would perk there ears (its been forever since they had any sort of worthwhile lefty in that pen). Jason, I've brought his name up like 100 times already, and you've got the best idea when it comes to the Angels, so I'll ask - is Figgins at all a possibility to be traded this season, or is his trading more of an offseason move? I know Anaheim has a lot of players in the positions Figgins plays, and they have quite a bit of team speed, so basically just curious. Either way, the Sox matchup really well with the Angels when it comes to atleast Crede, and I'd be very excited to make a move. This team definitely needs more speed and getting a few more players that get on base would be pretty damn nice.

QUOTE(greg775 @ May 6, 2007 -> 11:18 PM) I think Oz got sick of BA's anemic at bats and horrific batting stance and swing at the ball. Good fielder, tho. I really don't think that's the case, because Ozzie would have never played Timo if that had been the case.

Rowand was mediocre in 2005, and then was mediocre last year. He's lit the world on fire thus far this year. Miguel Olivo sucked in 2005 but was good in limited time with San Diego and resurfaced last year in Florida and hit lefties very well. However, he walked 9 times.

QUOTE(shipps @ May 6, 2007 -> 09:02 PM) I really dont think Crede alone would be enough for Lowry.Young pitching costs a whole lot and the Giants would be stupid to trade him for a position player alone.You would see a couple of our young arms in that deal also,would that deal be worth it? He's made 80 career starts, had a 4.74 ERA in the NL last year, and has a K/BB ratio of No, he's not interesting at all.

QUOTE(CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ May 6, 2007 -> 04:24 AM) I think it was an inning earlier when Gary Matthews stumbled under a routine fly ball the the Angels announcers said how difficult tracking the ball was in the Anaheim twilight. When it happened to Erstad it was almost like they expected it and mentioned they'd seen it happen to him before especially when wearing those glasses he had on. It's not like he played there 10 years or anything, right? right? LOL, I really dont care about it at all, it's more comedic than anything else; it's just funny that in his first game back to the stadium he played every one of his home games in until this year, he loses a ball. QUOTE(knightni @ May 6, 2007 -> 07:58 PM) http://bp1.blogger.com/_W6YuhWU3sm8/Rj5u3k...0-h/PH7-5-7.jpg Stay Grindy, my friends. I love that man.

QUOTE(3E8 @ May 6, 2007 -> 07:19 PM) Haven't been this excited for a non-Sox ESPN Sunday night game in a while. the only way it would be better is if Bonds were playing too.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ May 6, 2007 -> 07:10 PM) Great pitching matchup about to start on ESPN -- Lincecum vs Hamels. and Lincecum already hung the f*** out of a curveball. Victorino takes him out, and Lincecum has career era of a sideways 8. I imagine he'll still be fine.

QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ May 6, 2007 -> 06:22 PM) The last time the Sox played against a Yankee Clemens was fun. http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/NY...200308260.shtml JD can't wait

QUOTE(caulfield12 @ May 6, 2007 -> 06:21 PM) Curiously, we've come from behind in 8 of our 9 road wins this year. We really need to pick it up at home though, where our "power" line-up gives us an advantage. 2 games under at home, 2 games over on the road. Happy as I am over the win today, this team needs to pick it up period, specifically the offense. I've seen signs of improvement, but nothing more than that. And Ozzie needs to learn how to make a f'ing lineup sometime within the next week because there's absolutely no reason to ever have Iguchi in the 5th hole ever ever ever ever. What a joke.

June 4-7. Yankees @ White Sox. I hope Roger pitches, and I hope the Sox beat the royal piss out of him.

QUOTE(GreenSox @ May 6, 2007 -> 06:02 PM) I think we'll be reasonably in the race. That said, I think our best trade chits are our middle relievers for July deals. We have a lot of pitching depth, these guys are throwing up good numbers, and we should be able to net a premium return. You don't trade the middle relievers, not when you have everyone of them locked up entirely through 2009. You can trade one or two pieces if you are entirely overwhelmed, but unless it's Krivsky on the phone, that's not going to happen.

QUOTE(RME JICO @ May 6, 2007 -> 02:41 PM) I understand wanting a real CFer, but Erstad is as close as we have right now. Even after his bad years, he still is a .286 hitter who gets on base at a .340 clip. Again, not great, but not bad. I think the fact that he is both in CF and leading off seems to make people want him to achieve almost unattainable numbers. It is funny that you mentioned 15 HRs and 30 SBs because he is on pace for 34 SBs, and 12 HRs (pretty close) - and that is after his horrible first two weeks. I would be happy with 10 HR and 25 SBs. One time in the last six years has Erstad had a .280+/.340+ split, and that was 2004 when he missed 30 games. You can't use his career statistics as indicators for what he will do because those are entirely skewed by what he did early in his career. It's also funny you mention that he's on pace for those numbers, but then don't mention the fact that he's never stolen 30 bases and hasn't stolen 20 since 2002 (23), and he's hit double digit homers once since 2000, that also in 2002. If he can put up 10 homers, 25 SBs, and a .750 OPS, I'll have an Erstad signature for 4 months. I just don't think he has what it takes to reach those numbers.

so AJ is good

QUOTE(RME JICO @ May 6, 2007 -> 07:49 AM) How does Erstad have no upside, yet the rest of the lineup does? That makes no sense. He has clearly shown from ST on that he is past his injuries (just like Dye) from the last few years. No one is saying you have to commend him, but bashing him for being one of the main contributors in this offense is silly. Since April 19th he is batting .357/.400/.482/.882 with 10 RBI and 2 SB. That is pretty solid production from the leadoff spot. Also, he is a pretty big improvement over the automatic out we had in CF for majority of last season. If Anderson was putting up these numbers, no one would be complaining. I agree with your assessment of Ozzie's lineups. I don't believe he even knows what he is doing anymore. 8 other guys in the lineup either have a future or have power (aside from Pablo Ozuna when he's in there, but he is meant to be a leadoff hitter against LHP). Darin Erstad is a .270 singles hitter and he's not going to hit 15 homers; I know he's the leadoff hitter and he doesn't need to hit for power, yadayada, but he's not getting on base at a great rate and he never will, he doesn't have the speed to steal 30 bases, and thus, he's almost never in scoring position. Offensively, he just does not bring much. However, there's a reason I've shied away from criticizing Erstad and instead Walker over the past 2-3 weeks is because Erstad is actually producing. I don't see it lasting all season, but I'll take it when it comes. He'll have streaks where he hits like this, and then he'll have streaks where he is 4-3 Erstad again. Basically, all I've come to really want through this whole charade of CFers the White Sox have put out there over the past 7 months of baseball is a real CFer.

QUOTE(Heads22 @ May 4, 2007 -> 01:47 PM) It's gone because the server hates us and all of you. not me!

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ May 5, 2007 -> 09:11 PM) Personal attack or not, some of you are just f***ing ridiculous. so why exactly should I commend a batter for putting up a .267/.318/.366/.684 line? I know you're not a big stats guy, but that's doing virtually nothing at all. He's been the best hitter for average on the team (other than a healthy Thome), which is why I've criticized others on the team too, but they all have upside, which Darin Erstad has virtually none of. He brings a good attitude and energy on every play, but several in the majors do too, and they provide offensive upside. Erstad, at his very best, is going to hit .300 while getting on at a .340 clip and putting up an OPS around .750, which means below average patience at the plate and below average power. The only thing the guy does well offensively is make contact with the ball. That has it's value, but that's as a 2 hitter when he's playing well (such as now), or a 7-9 hitter. And let me be clear, half of the reason I criticize Erstad so much is because of how Ozzie is using him, so maybe it is a bit unjust to completely tear Erstad apart. However, how can you justify the lineup Ozzie put on the field today? It makes absolutely no sense to put two of your worst players at getting on base at the top while a guy like Iguchi is hitting 6th in a spot in the lineup that doesn't fit what he brings to the game. Ozzie is possibly the worst manager in the game when it comes to making lineups, and I have no problem saying that at all. I want to like Erstad, I really do, but unless he suddenly becomes a .300/.350/.450/.800 player, or Ozzie comes to judgment and moves him down in the lineup (which, even if he gets cold again, I doubt he'll do) it's going to be very hard for me to do so.