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QUOTE(premo @ May 22, 2007 -> 01:58 PM) I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned anythign about this, but with all the concern about the hitting, in 2005, I don't think any of our starters batted over .300 for the season. and the Sox scored the 9th most runs in the AL; that's worse than mediocre They were tied for the best ERA in the AL and had the best ERA+ as a staff at 123; those will both help greatly.

I've pretty much admitted that Gavin Floyd is the suck, that Darin Erstad is not good but is the Sox best option in CF, and pretty much anything else I've said that I've been wrong about. We really do usually own up well; it's when you get a player like Darin Erstad who is mediocre as hell statistically but continually gets singles that there becomes a conflict. People don't seem to understand that fact that Darin Erstad does have an OPS of .668 on the season; slice that any way you want to, and it's terrible. He's been very solid over about the past month, putting up .310/.350/.398/.748, so then you get into the part of it where some people will argue that you have to look beyond his terrible numbers for the year and realize what he's done as a leadoff hitter, while some will look at a slugging percentage at .400 and damn near barf, and some will say look at the .668 OPS and puke. There is no black and white for Darin Erstad, because he's been terrible with the White Sox over the big picture, but his game has picked up since Podsednik has gone down, but he's still be quite mediocre with some clutch hits. Basically, if you are a "pro-Erstadian," and you feel he is the answer to the problems and the "anti-Erstadians" should eat crow for a month and a half of .668 OPS, then you should really consider what you're arguing, and if "anti-Erstadians" feel that Erstad is God's gifts to the athletically challenged CFer, well they're probably right, but he's the best option in CF for the White Sox right now, and that's not going to change. He's been decent this season, but he needs to continue hitting how he has over the duration of his time in the leadoff spot, alaa .750 OPS.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ May 22, 2007 -> 01:28 PM) Exactly. If McNabb was a healthy QB for the Bears last year, do they end up winning the Super Bowl? Maybe not, but it wouldnt have been so clear cut. I'm gonna say yes. McNabb hits Berrian instead of making a horrendous throw that ends up in an interception. If you can trade an OLB, however good he is, for a top 5 QB in the league when he's healthy, you do it in a second. There's no way it happens, but that's besides the point.

QUOTE(BearSox @ May 21, 2007 -> 02:31 PM) That's a little darastic, don't you think? Dukes is a scary ass man. I'd be afraid just ot ask him for an autograph. He'd probably pull a knife out. Well, Kemp got in a fight with his own teammate and was a large reason why the Barons were pulled from the field, and you don't think he's scary?

QUOTE(ROC Sox Fan @ May 21, 2007 -> 11:43 PM) It's nice to hear some positive Sox opinions, but you can't blame the negative feelings around here. Watching a month of .200 hitting is not fun. so how about watching two months of .220?

QUOTE(Dan @ May 21, 2007 -> 09:18 PM) I didn't know a 3 time Gold Glover translated into mediocre. Thanks for clarifying. I hope that you're not using that as justifcation that he's a good defensive CFer. He's above average defensively, but that doesn't make up for being below average, though acceptable, at the plate. His last gold glove came at 1B, and the last time he won a gold glove in CF was 2002. Check your facts and numbers, cuz that's 5 years ago. You think he still has the range of a 28 year old with no past injuries, considering he's now 33 (or rather, 33 in 2 weeks) with injuries in his past, some of them due to not being able to play CF? Give me a break. That's not taking anything away from the gold glove award; that's an argument for a different day. When you're using a gold glove won 5 years ago as justification that a player is good defensively, then I begin to wonder if you think Bret Boone, Luis Castillo, or Steve Finley are gold glove caliber defensive players right now.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ May 21, 2007 -> 12:51 PM) This is where they should create a "match.com" type service in jail. Take a guy like this, a rotten pile of filth who wants to hurt his own child. Or in fact, anyone who molests, hurts children. Then match them up with their perfect vicious bloodthirsty killer, who is looking for someone to have sadistic sex with. Then lock them up for some kozy romantic nights of "chase around the jail cell". In fact, they should move them around after a few weeks, so another vicious murdering manrapist, can have a piece of new meat. This way, the violent offenders are too tired from rape to have uprisings, and the sicko child killer/rapists are getting some "motivational therapy" and some love from another human being to help them along. Maybe they can play Dane Cook's favorite game of "who is in my mouth". there is absolutely no way this can fail

QUOTE(Jordan4life_2007 @ May 19, 2007 -> 05:13 AM) Wite got pwned. lol. indeed, I'd been given every indication that he was a lefty. That does change quite a bit. that, and everything else.

QUOTE(BearSox @ May 20, 2007 -> 08:14 PM) I hope it's the former, but it could be because of the later. you're not going out on a limb there at all

QUOTE(BigSqwert @ May 21, 2007 -> 10:10 AM) When will Cleveland and Detroit slow down? I am so sick of them. sometime in November

QUOTE(WCSox @ May 21, 2007 -> 01:13 PM) I imagine that most of Soxtalk would've gone absolutely ape$hit if KW dealt Crede back in December, especially with the season and a half that he had prior to then. Even if KW gets significantly less for him than he could've gotten in December (or even if he gets nothing), the Sox owe Crede nothing after this year and KW can use that money elsewhere. That's not exactly a bad situation, especially with Mark and Ichiro on the FA market this Fall. I'd like to see KW let Dye walk as well and re-sign one of those two to a four- or five-year deal. It all depends upon the return, but you are probably right because the Sox weren't going to get a ton for Crede. The Sox hope was that he could put together another good season with a s***ty back and thus be able to prove to other teams that his back was something he could deal with. Obviously, it's not, and who knows really how long Crede has left in this game. In the offseason, it sounded like Anaheim was really only willing to give up Figgins for him, and there were no other rumblings at all of others trading Crede. The whole Figgins and Santana for Crede and Garcia thing lasted a few days and never really started making sense from Anaheim's perspective at all. I truly do believe people would have been severely disappointed with a Crede trade.

QUOTE(BearSox @ May 12, 2007 -> 01:28 PM) Sweeney > Young not a chance in hell, and you are about the only one that will agree with that claim QUOTE(BearSox @ May 12, 2007 -> 09:53 PM) I see Chris Young putting up similar numbers to Mike Cameron at his best. Nothing wrong with that, but not studly. First of all, Mike Cameron has been a 20-30 guy 3 times, a 30-20 guy once, and a 20-20 player once; that's all while stealing bases at a 78.6% clip. Mike Cameron IS a stud, and he always has been; he's just not a .300 hitter or a superstar. Add to it that he's also a great CFer and has a cannon for an arm, and he's really one of the more underrated players in the majors. Secondly, I've read places where Chris Young has been compared to better players. Andruw Jones comes to mind immediately, as Keith has pointed out, and I've also seen Eric Davis. He won't be as good as them, unless his contact rate miraculously improves overnight, but he has a higher ceiling than Mike Cameron at his best, and that's really saying something.

QUOTE(BearSox @ May 19, 2007 -> 11:24 AM) It's funny. Sweeney goes on a little funk, now he isn't ready and everyone wants him sent down. Just a week ago he was our best hitter and everyone was like he should start in LF for the whole year. Funny how just 1 week can change dozens of people's minds. Also, Sweeney > Mack/Ozuna/Terrero. Oh, and the thing about the Carlos Lee trade, it didn't matter who we got in return. Lee was a "me" and a hot dog. Never heard good things about him either. I didn't care who we got in return, I just wanted him gone. Sweeney has the maturity and swing to be a solid player in the majors this year; he's never been the best hitter. He may have had the best swing, but never has the best swing been the same thing as the best hitter. Aside from that, this team needs all the offense it can get and Sweeney isn't bringing anything; in a what have you done for me lately world, Sweeney is horrible and Thome will be a sigh of relief. There's no damn difference between Mackowiak/Ozuna in LF vs Sweeney in LF, and if Sweeney's not starting, he's being wasted on the minor league roster. I understand you love the dude, but settle the hell down and look at the numbers a little bit oo.

QUOTE(Heads22 @ May 18, 2007 -> 11:22 PM) I predict he never hits the majors. never? I can see not with the White Sox, but never? He throws with the ball in his left hand and has a great slider. He'll have to get a shot eventually, even if for only a week or two and not from the White Sox organization.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ May 18, 2007 -> 09:53 AM) Its one of those situations where statistics don't tell the whole story. The kid is finally getting it, which is scary. oh no they tell the entire story 45 IP, 35 H, 9 R, 8 ER, 3 HR, 12 BB, 16 K Those are the numbers of Fausto Carmona without his start against the White Sox; translated... 1.60 ERA 1.04 WHIP 2.4 BB/9 and then a GO/AO in the 2.5-3 range; he's apparently keeping the ball down, and that's the difference between him getting torched and succeeding.

QUOTE(whitesoxin @ May 18, 2007 -> 03:16 PM) How about the Sig too? Aardsma's girlfriend

QUOTE(BearSox @ May 19, 2007 -> 01:22 AM) Sweeney's fine in LF fathom. Just give it a little time. Also, 3B is the place we need some hitting from. The Sox don't have f***ing time when Cleveland is tearing apart everything in sight and Detroit is right back where they were last year. And the Sox need hitting from every position on the field; the highest OPS from an active player on the White Sox roster is .765. That is horrendous.

QUOTE(BearSox @ May 18, 2007 -> 01:12 PM) Didn't Tony G have to play catcher for us a couple years ago? I miss Tony G. Graffanino has never played catcher in his career

QUOTE(CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ May 17, 2007 -> 11:24 PM) I guess I expect grown or semi grown men not to be whiny little b****es about a team you supposedly love and support in 90% of the posts. I expect to see more support , patience or actual discussion without people being so out on the ledge all the time. I am proud of being a whiny little b****, thank you very much. This is my team, and I will be critical of them if I wish. I don't have to support everything they do, and I sure as hell don't have to support actions they take which I completely disagree with. There are things that they do that I love, and I will say as much, and I will always root for them until I am blue in the face. It doesn't change how hard it has been to watch this team at times this year, even as a team that's 3 games over .500, how ridiculously bad this offense has been at times this year, and how badly Ozzie has been outmanaged at times this year. If I wish, I will be critical; if I weren't, what would be the point of a message board? Everyone would agree, and that's just flat out no fun.

PABLO FOR CATCHER

QUOTE(max power @ May 17, 2007 -> 10:23 PM) What the hell is a bereavement list anyway? If there is a problem with a player that is not an injury, they are allowed like 8 days off; it is essentially a mini DL that allows for you to call up a minor league player in the case of like a family illness or death. I'm not sure how far it extends, as in if you can take it for like legal troubles or a honeymoon or even an injury itself, but calling it a mini or shortened DL is probably the best way of stating it.

QUOTE(bmags @ May 17, 2007 -> 10:45 PM) i think crede'll end up at about .240 this year, but i'm excited for an inevitable heat up. Theres no way we stay at .200 all year all throughout the middle of the order. I'm of about the same opinion and I really think we may see Fields up for around 30-40 games this season.

someone age me 14 months please sucks being 19, how s***ty

since when did sweeping a team become illegal? I like winning series and all, and they're starting to play better, but dammit, I want to sweep a team for once.

QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ May 16, 2007 -> 07:10 PM) Well, he isn't. First of all, it's not really the point; I was merely bringing up another example. Secondly, no one is Cy Young, so Ozzie is comparing McCarthy to one of the best of all time; how is that fair? McCarthy can't start a game because he's not the best pitcher of all time; does that make sense? It obviously doesn't matter anymore, and I don't even remember when Ozzie made the statement, but it pretty much rang precisely how he felt about McCarthy, and even being happy as hell with the return, it's no surprise McCarthy is out of town. Ozzie making those comparisons is dumb. QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ May 17, 2007 -> 01:30 PM) Griffey has a no-trade clause, right? Hasn't he said at some point that he won't accept a trade? As I recall, Griffey was willing to accept a trade to Chicago in 2005, but Reds ownership rescinded the trade.