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Counterpoint: There's an excuse or rationalization for every single move that Chris Getz has ever made that absolves him of all guilt or responsibility.

So what is Getz responsible for if not developing those targeted players? They have to work in conjunction with each other...hand in glove, one does not exist without the other.

Shane Smith is not THE story of this White Sox season...called on March 9th?

Ummm...when supreme talent level is not there, it's the kiss of death. Gary Gaetti nearly divided those 87 and 91 Twins with his proselytzing. Faith is the symptom...but not the ultimate cause of his downfall. Maybe the Royals under Dayton Moore should have taken him lol. Never a good fit on the Sox...where the team was already splitting between white black and Cuban/Hispanic players. Madrigal was just another layer or dimension to that.

https://www.mlb.com/news/mlb-teams-most-improved-positions-in-2025

Benintendi Vaughn and Robert definitely aren't selling these jerseys. Will be more Thomas Ventura Jordan Dick Allen Konerko Buehrle...heck Pippen or Rodman even.

He was supposed to be that glue/complementary player. That's what he was billed as. Leader of those great Oregon State teams. https://www.soxtalk.com/forums/topic/110522-a-nick-madrigal-sized-sample/&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwih-vGHyf2MAxXGGLkGHYK2AVYQFnoECAQQAg&usg=AOvVaw2OydoNQz1aMPKuPN3gbZ1i After the White Sox drafted Oregon State's Nick Madrigal we called up Pat Casey, Madrigal's head coach at Oregon State. Casey came on the podcast and raved about the White Sox first round pick. He spoke about why Madrigal is the only sole captain he's ever had on his team (instead of Rutschman Kwan Larnach Greiner), why his 5-foot-8 frame doesn't matter and where he thinks Madrigal is actually better than Red Sox All-Star Dustin Pedroia. Casey talks about Madrigal's hitting, defense and if he can play shortstop in the big leagues. Finally, he told the story about how he offered Madrigal a scholarship to Oregon State when he was in 8th grade. https://chsnwhitesox.podbean.com/e/ep-121-nick-madrigal-s-college-coach-this-guy-is-going-to-be-a-superstar/ Just listen to this....

Looked like Penisdork on mobile screen, lol.

Better promotions as well...maybe part of it weather or opponent related, but the A's were/are hardly a draw YET.

Uh oh...here we go again. Maybe someone should interview Ishbia on this topic?

He was arguably dealt to partially help prevent that...but look at what happened from that 2021 trade deadline through the end of 2023. .500ish club and then a complete fall into "oblivion." Just like Madrigal Heuer and Kimbrel...not even sure Craig makes the Hall now.

Fox-Aparicio ones are timeless... Dick Allen 70s ones should also become more of a thing.

But you can't kill Jerry!!!

But what about the tariffs? In the clear for now...knockoffs, not so much "Fanatics purchased Majestic Athletics, the league's previous uniform provider, in 2017 and so now the Nike uniforms are produced in the same Fanatics-owned Easton, Pa., factory where the league's uniforms have been made since 2005." NHL... The Fanatics Authentic Pro is crafted in the same Quebec factory that has produced NHL uniforms for nearly 50 years. Designed with the exact specifications used by players, the Authentic Pro jersey is made from elevated fabrics and includes multilayered tackle twill, 3D embroidery and reinforced stitching in key areas.

Does that include being only inclined to support a Sox stadium on either side of historic 35th & Shields?

Probably instead being relegated to BIRMINGHAM to join the so-called project there...improve winning percentage of that particular team.

Alabama Slamma/Slammed....

Were either original White Sox property or could have been acquired within the past six years Tatis Jr. obviously... Jonathan Aranda for sure coming into 2025 Aranda was optioned to Triple-A Durham to begin the 2023 season.[14] In 34 games for the Rays, he batted .230/.340/.368 with two home runs and 13 RBI.[15] In 2024, Aranda was poised to make the Opening Day roster after a strong spring. However, on March 20, 2024, he suffered a broken right ring finger while fielding a ground ball, and underwent surgery that ruled him out for four–to–six weeks.[16] Goldschmidt FA E.Suarez FA The Mariners received right-hander Carlos Vargas and veteran catcher Seby Zavala for Suarez, who has belted at least 21 home runs in each of the past seven full seasons. K.Campbell could have been drafted before 4th round Pages Andy What Joc Pederson didn’t realize then, and was only reminded of recently: Pages was once almost traded by the Dodgers, reportedly part of a 2020 deal (nixed By Arte Moreno) that would have sent Pederson, Ross Stripling and a then-teenage Pages to the Angels to the Angels for infielder Luis Rengifo and two Minor Leaguers to clear payroll space for Betts/Price. Nootbaar drafted 8th round StL Goodman 4th round 2021 $600k Hoskins FA K.Carpenter drafted quite late by DET, 19th round in fact Edman traded last year Harper FA if interested in 2019....never made a serious/legit run at him that's just #26-50 without going through all of #10-25

Feels a little desperate to sell merchandise lol. At least revenues from somewhere.

(It now occurs to me that baseball owners had to love Shohei Ohtani signing a $700 million contract with the Dodgers, because even though the deferred payments knock down the net present value to $460 million, they can use the far larger figure for a bigger pity party.) But Reinsdorf's sentimentality extends only so far. Business is still business. So in 1983, claiming the old Comiskey Park was "disintegrating," and "if we didn't get a new ballpark we'd go broke," Reinsdorf again played hardball. Threatening to move the Sox to St. Petersburg, Florida, if Illinois legislators didn't fund a new stadium, he now explained, "a savvy negotiator creates leverage. People had to think we were going to leave Chicago." Those machinations angered St. Petersburg city administrator Rick Dodge. Realizing Reinsdorf was simultaneously negotiating with him and Illinois officials, he told his attorneys, "He was playing us off against each other. I'm not going to sit here and get chewed up like this." https://soxmachine.com/2024/02/jerry-reinsdorf-white-sox-relocation-threats

Different tones of red, maybe? Are the early 70's and 1983/batting practice jerseys Chicago Bulls' red? The 1959 jerseys have that outline of red, but it's also not quite the same. Seems like slightly different shades.

Wow...amazing insights. Our three best pitching prospects will undoubtedly be held back until 2026, and THAT's finally when we can start realistically judging the potential outcomes of Rebuild 2: Electric Boogaloo.

https://www.espn.com/mlb/attendance If it wasn't for the Orioles getting in the way of Milwaukee, the AL Central/NL Central would have a run of 8 out of 10 teams in a row near the bottom of attendance. Of course, the Cubs are 9th (still down, comparatively) and Cardinals are 14th (also down compared to past attendance numbers.) White Sox attendance only down 8.0% for their first 12 games (2025/2024 YoY) 215,992 vs. 198,640

A .723 OPS would have led the White Sox (of the players left by season's end), lol. Sure, it's a LOW LOW bar, and it was only 200+ at-bats, but I'm not sure that's more of an indictment of the talent level of the players brought into the Sox system or an indictment of the development side. Or probably 50/50. https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/c/callal02.shtml Maybe the biggest success story, and that's not saying a whole helluva lot, in the overall scheme of things.

https://www.mlb.com/news/tyler-glasnow-injured-list-shoulder-inflammation First Snell out...now Glasnow, how predictable was this? VERY!!! That leave the Dodgers with their two Japanese pitchers (not named Ohtani), Dustin May, Gonsolin, Sauer, Casparius (opener/reliever). Still waiting on Ohtani and Kershaw. https://www.mlb.com/dodgers/roster/depth-chart 7 starting pitchers on the IL right now, which doesn't even include Ohtani (who's already behind schedule to return in May)