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Rockies are being picked as the NL team to collapse in the second half...they definitely need veteran help for that young pitching staff as they hit their innings limits. Also, Gray was almost as good as Q this week in the near no-hitter by Braves/Folty...

https://sports.yahoo.com/mlb-first-half-awa...-163219324.html First half awards...Sale second in AL MVP race to Judge.

QUOTE (maxjusttyped @ Jul 1, 2017 -> 01:52 AM) fWAR is likely underrating Flowers too because it doesn't account for pitch framing. I don't have data for this year in front of me, but stat corner had him being +22.5 runs in '15 and then +13.3 runs in '16. Never at any point when Flowers was on the Sox was I clamoring for a long-term extension but it was obvious at the time they were making a mistake opting to sign Avila and/or Navarro over keeping him. Bwar has him at negative defensive value but still the 104th most valuable player in baseball this year. 50/58 catchers with 150+ plate appearances at defense at fangraphs. 56/58 in DRS. Of course, Avila has been worth 2.5 war already this year. Figures.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jun 30, 2017 -> 08:23 PM) Caulfield have you been following the White Sox over the past few years? The Chicago White Sox non-tendered Tyler Flowers after the 2015 season, fresh off a .239/.295/.356 campaign, before his final trip through arbitration in his age 29 season -- because the team was ALL-IN and desperately signed two free agent veterans in hopes of finding some offense. Wtf do you mean "kept him to be the bridge to a competitive team?" Also, the Francisco Cervelli contract has been HORRIBLE since basically a week after it was signed. If anything, Cervelli's situation would be illustrative of why NOT to believe in a random fluke career offensive performance for an aging, bad hitting catcher. How is a 1.7 fWAR terrible? That's worth around $13-14 million...if you want to talk about terrible, you can line up all the Sox free agents signed since 2014-15 through the following season. Granted, he might never be nearly a 4 again, but a $31 million contract over three years is far less than the Sox are paying Cabrera and even Robertson for an everyday catcher. Even if he ends up at 1.2-1.5 fWAR this year, that's still not a bad value compared to the other huge overpays on the FA market the last couple of offseasons.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jun 30, 2017 -> 02:29 PM) Yet some are completely overcrowded with some class sizes approaching 50 kids.... 33 was the max (officially) for KC Public Schools. Although I recall having 37-38 once for Econ.

QUOTE (beautox @ Jun 30, 2017 -> 03:59 PM) Don't stop him hes on a roll; 31 year old catchers having career years at the plate are often deemed pillars of a rebuilding core. If you extended Martin or Cervelli at that same exact point in their careers...you'd have done just fine. Catchers don't mature until around 30 because of all the mental aspects of the game to master. Gary SANCHEZ has been the exception, not the rule. Wilson Contreras, as well. No reason they couldn't have kept him until 2019/20 as a bridge to the competitive team, like Abreu and Avi.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jun 30, 2017 -> 10:18 AM) Notice I said west and not west coast There are still a ton of places to go, despite the coastline being so expensive. Oregon, Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, Utah, New Mexico....sooo many gorgeous places to live. I really think Reno is a solid option as well. I know you had mentioned you weren't impressed, but it's got a lot of momentum right now. Just have to wait for the real estate market to come back to reality a bit. Why not Colorado and Washington? Too expensive still? Utah, the religious element turns off quite a few....although it's a beautiful state in terms of nature.

Okay, I accept the idea we're not going out of our way to improve the defense (see Abreu/Anderson) because we're not trying to be a .500ish team, so it doesn't matter. Statistically, we should be close/r to .500. However, if we simply don't believe that Davidson, Anderson, Moncada and Abreu will have any impact on our young pitchers when they come up, then oh well. Cabrera we can simply trade away, addition by subtraction. But I don't see how you can build a team around pitching (starting and relieving) yet project to have one of the worst infields and RFers in baseball. Heck, if we'd simply developed Tyler Flowers, we'd have another huge asset in this rebuild instead of a placeholder. Defensive metrics pointed out that he had some specific skills back there that were league average or above. And, yet, other than Leury and Robert, it's hard to find too many premium defenders that are realistic starters on our major/minor league rosters. Same with this draft class. Sanchez and Hanson, perhaps??? Somewhere along the line, we need to buy a defender (substitute current Dyson's 2.0 fWAR)...he might not even receive $7.5 or $8 million as a free agent, yet fWAR values him at potentially $30-35 million by the end of the season. That said, Leury has similar value...but does anyone see him as a future starter or playing at his real level? I'm not saying overpay here...actually, quite the opposite. And maybe they trade Leury eventually to open up the spot for Engel, the other player with the tools to be very good out there in CF.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jun 30, 2017 -> 10:11 AM) The highest ceiling SS the White Sox have is Tim Anderson. Tim Anderson is the most obvious option for SS. Not if putting up a 35-40 error season starts to impact his offense to the extent he's barely replacement player level or below.

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Jun 30, 2017 -> 10:13 AM) The most obvious option is Tim Anderson. Let the kid play. Oh, and Alcides Escobar is terrible. And so were Jean Segura, Logan Morrison, Justin Smoak and Alonso. Every player who has a bad season or two isn't doomed forever. Look at Avisail Garcia.

Hell, they could just sign Alcides Escobar (probably the best defensive SS in the game, him or Simmons) for $10 million/two years and target other more legit trade candidates instead of yet more utility infielders... Move Anderson or Moncada to CF, leave the other at 2B. Or Sanchez at 2b and both those guys in the OF with Avisail. Of course, the most obvious option is Leury Garcia at SS.

https://mobile.twitter.com/jk_rowling/statu...-124521145.html Waiting for Trump to attempt to ban all Harry Potter books from the US...

QUOTE (Soha @ Jun 30, 2017 -> 09:31 AM) Maybe you're right. Here's my thoughts. I'm not sure Houston has a great need for Quintana right now. And they've been balking at the Sox asking price since December. I would be surprised if he goes there. They seem stingy with giving up their prized prospects, and I think their perceived need of Quintana is a lot lower now than it was prior to the season. For the Yankees - if they manage to stay in the race, I'd probably call them the favorites to land him. But they just don't look like that good of a team to me. I suspect they'll be sliding out of the race by the time the trading deadline comes, and then they won't be buyers. As Cashman has already said, the Yankees are doing the exact same thing as the White Sox (regarding a rebuild via prospects), but they're much further along since they started before us. They're probably not going to cut in to all that rebuild work just because they played a bit over their heads for 2 months. With everything in mind, teams to watch are Atlanta and the two darkhorses are the Cubs and Red Sox. Dombrowski loves trading prospects away. And I'm sure Quintana dominating the Yankees the other day caught his attention. Domingo Santana's probably the best they've dealt.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 30, 2017 -> 09:20 AM) This is exactly the point I was trying to make. I think the Cubs pivot to an Archer or Gray because there is no way they can get a deal done for Q that isn't more expensive than one of those guys. Archer>Jose>Gray The question is whether they'd trade Jimenez for Gray...or try to substitute a package of guys like Schwarber, Candelario and Almora (in some combination). Remove one of the hitters and substitute Cease, de la Cruz or Clifton. Perhaps. Don't see any well in hell Happ can be traded now. And Baez is more valuable to the Cubs with his defensive versatility. Fwiw, the A's claim they want to compete and not rebuild in 2018. Maybe Lowrie goes other way if Baez is included?

https://sports.yahoo.com/rival-executives-e...-153000336.html Verlander expected to be put on trade market https://www.fanragsports.com/mlb/inside-bas...d-ranked-value/ Note comments on Top 100 trade candidates Braves, Cubs, Blue Jays, Boston, NYY, Houston, Dodgers all in play for starting pitching. 3 Quintana 20 Robertson 50 Holland 66 Frazier 76 Cabrera 91 Shields Others: Pelfrey, Swarzak, Kahnle, Leury Garcia, Yolmer Sanchez, Hanson (970 ops w/ Sox)

5th Philly, SF, SD, Cincy -12, CHW -10, Oakland -9, Detroit -8, Miami -7 RS/RA differential 13th LAA 0 14th StL -1 15th SEA -8 16th CHW -12 17th/18th Blue Jays/Tigers -22

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Jun 29, 2017 -> 06:03 PM) I disagree they've been very good even when healthy (which has been about as rare as seeing a two dollar bill again) but that's just my opinion. Doesn't matter now...you can stick a fork in both of them because they are done. Putnam was excellent his first season with Sox...that splitter/forkball/sinker was UNhittable even when you knew it was coming in at the low 80's.

So much for the Yankees trading an upper level outfielder...

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Why do we need a backup catcher, no matter how good the D? White Sox will teach him how to hit?

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Jun 29, 2017 -> 11:57 AM) I've always wondered who that dude is (referring to Sierra). Always see him around in the dugout and on the field playing catch before games. Now I know. No relation to Abreu's best buddy Moises High Sierra?

Murphy should have turned that DP easily...like a typical Sox defensive debacle there. K-Rod is done cooked finito.

Who cares, survival of the fittest/Social Darwinism. We need to cull the herd, and where better to start than with the lazy poor people who've grown reliant on government handouts and are just a drain on resources.

Only time you can sort of be okay with a Cubs' rally...

QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Jun 29, 2017 -> 10:11 AM) Cassidy and Collins are working on a "Centrist bill". Is it called the ACA/Obamacare? Cause that's what we have now. Center of the GDP, wherever that is now... http://www.pressherald.com/2017/05/19/as-s...s-it-will-fail/ Sen. Collins predicts Senate Republicans’ health care plan will be too partisan to succeed While a 13-man committee is drafting a bill, Collins says she is continuing to work with others on a centrist proposal. http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/31567...eping-obamacare GOP senators: Give states the option of keeping ObamaCare