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Who was that big 1B that everyone was clamoring for who was leading AAA in homers and get totally exposed with the Sox? Can't remember his name anymore, blocking it out deliberately.

Why would any team claim him on waivers when the White Sox are stuck with him? All they have to do is let the 10 day claim period pass and then low ball the Sox with an offer...leaving an uncomfortable decision of bringing him back to the Sox or letting him go, as both would have negative consequences.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 13, 2016 -> 07:28 PM) But he didn't want them to give up the draft pick Rick Hahn would never give up that draft pick because it would have made him look like more of a jack--- for the way the Samardzija deal worked out for the White Sox. And it would have only deferred that draft pick for another yet anyway, unless they change things with the CBA in the middle of this year, which will be difficult to do in the middle of June/July trading season. Remember Ray Durham for Jon Adkins? We were supposedly trading Ray because there was this idea he wouldn't get any compensation so better to get SOMETHING than nothing (Adkins' ERA was something like 7 in AAA at the time of that brilliant deal.)

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 13, 2016 -> 07:22 PM) Ian Desmomd, Ian Desmond...you wanted to sign him in June. Now, with hindsight signing him was the obvious move you wanted them to make all along. But it wasn't. $10 million for Latos, $8 million for Parra and sign Desmomd in June. That is Caulfield without hindsight. No so good. Although I did appreciate how when Duke stunk up the joint a week or so ago,you claimed you were against that move from the beginning. I will get in trouble if I show your actual post in the Duke signing thread, but let's just say, your memory is a bit off. That was the market in early January. Obviously, CONDITIONS CAN AND DO CHANGE. Just like James Shields wasn't available for a 50% discount 10 days ago...until Hahn thought the cost-benefit analysis/ROI was too good to pass on. Don't you think Rick Hahn would send James Shields back to SD and negate the trade as of this moment if he could? From an offensive standpoint, Parra has been absolutely fine. Depending on how much we trust the defensive metrics, a lot of his value has been negated.

#GapeKaplerforGNCCEO Actually, it wouldn't be the worst choice. ANYONE with an outsider's perspective. He's on a lot of Top 5-10 lists for replacing current managers, at least he was going into last offseason.

Did the White Sox-certified physicians give him a thorough physical exam before they agreed to the deal? MRI's? I can't believe they wouldn't have, not after the 10 run game against the Mariners.

Not to mention how much money have we already wasted on Rollins, Latos and Danks this year? Desmond would have cost $6 million net because we would have saved money from the draft pool...which won't be contributing until, at best, 2019-2021, when Hahn/KW/Ventura are long gone. One thing they should do immediately is let Coats play every day, DFA JB Suck and send Avifail Garcia down to AAA to await a trade, because he's never going to be a good player for the White Sox (maybe Japan w/ Viciedo).

Shields is obviously WAY off on his location/command. He gets hit, he knows his stuff isn't as crisp, he tries to nibble on the corners until he has to come in if he's down in the count. It's like Erik Johnson, in another form. Hahn has to go before Ventura. The Anderson and Shields moves were the final nails in the coffin. At least Latos battled, kept us in games more or less and didn't cost $30 million. All we had to do was sign Ian Desmond and we could have kept Anderson in the minors this season to protect him...but no, we took a reliever instead.

That play would have been made with Adam Eaton where he belongs, in RF. But nobody can be surprised when you have Avi in the outfield, and somehow Ventura trusts him more than Coats. Doesn't make any sense. Can Coats ONLY play LF? Because it's hard to imagine anyone worse in RF, honestly.

4-14 so far against KCR/DET/CLEVE. A lovely .222 winning percentage. 17-51 over 68 games if we didn't play the Twins and had 25.33333 games against the three best teams in the division. 36-126 over 162. TWTW.

If the White Sox are going to be a ridiculous organization, why take them seriously any longer? What's the point of writing out well thought out, measured comments imbued with pragmatism when the front office is acting in completely the opposite manner? I love the Cuban players and the way they play the game. I defended Viciedo for a long time here. Wanted the Sox to bring in Puig, and still do. Heck, it wouldn't be a complete shocker if they did sign Gurriel and try to figure out a way to jam him into the line-up even though the positional fit with Frazier at 3B and the same age isn't a good one.

5 years ago, he would have been an awesome acquisition. Now, it's too late. Which of course means the White Sox will attempt to add him as well to their collection of players past their "sell by" date. And actually, he still will be a credible hitter for the next 2-3 years, compared to the likes of JB Suck and Avifail Garcia. But we just signed Justin Morneau to be a hero, so they won't make a bid out of respect to Morneau.

Still awaiting a response to the question posed...

Why not? It couldn't get any worse than 8-22 and 4-11 vs. our primary AL Central rivals. http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/colum...613-column.html AJ column. Ventura will love fielding those questions...probably none from the local Chicago media, though.

QUOTE (CB2.0 @ Jun 13, 2016 -> 05:57 AM) The only prospects that are any good are pitchers and that has little to nothing to do with Hahn. It's the only thing the Sox have ever been any good at when it comes to the farm. See 2 of the 3 names floated, for example. Except for Thompson, Semien and Anderson. What pitching have we "developed" recently? Rodon had a grand total of 10 minor league starts, that was it. Nate Jones, I guess. But that dates back to 2012, along with Q/Santiago/Santos/Reed. Petricka, if you really want to push the definition.

Because Hahn isn't the one who is the primary talent evaluator in the organization, that's Hostetler/Laumann/Fabian for the draft and some combination of KW and scouts for trades/FA's.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jun 13, 2016 -> 08:06 AM) Yea...no. Not even close Go ahead, ask me any question about the Tigers, that's not something that is factual but requires analysis/evaluation/opinion.

And then 25% blame their fellow White Sox fans. It's a neat trick. Maybe the most successful thing KW has done in the last ten years, getting the fans to take responsibility for the product on the field rather than poor judgement/inefficient allocation of resources.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/batting/_/sor...outs/order/true Lawrie is 7th in the majors in K's. Besides Justin Upton, everyone else in the Top 17 has more homers. If you can't make contact, nothing positive will happen with RISP, other than avoiding hitting into a DP.

QUOTE (CB2.0 @ Jun 13, 2016 -> 06:34 AM) Is Caulfield a KC fan? Sure likes to post about them....a lot. Almost like veiled gloating. Ask me any question about the Tigers, Indians or Twins. I will be more than happy to address those as well.

With the luck of the White Sox recently, their record will be even worse under Renteria and there will be a spate of injuries. Anderson will have to be sent back to AAA or AA and everyone will freak out about them rushing him and worrying constantly he'll be the next mishandled prospect to come through the pipeline. A lot of opposing teams' radio announcers have really been questioning why the Sox "rushed" Rodon to the majors as well, at least recently.

With the luck of the White Sox recently, their record will be even worse under Renteria and there will be a spate of injuries. Anderson will have to be sent back to AAA or AA and everyone will freak out about them rushing him and worrying constantly he'll be the mishandled prospect to come through the pipeline. A lot of ppposing teams' radio announcers have really been questioning why the Sox "rushed" Rodon to the majors as well, at least recently.

Of course, no one has attempted to answer the question or explain why this is the case... We prefer to just stick our heads in the sand and pretend everything's just fine and dandy. The thing is, this was the same exact case with the Twins for a decade. The White Sox are more talented, the Twins are just lucky. Heard that year after year after year while the Twins were making the playoffs six out of nine years. But 2005 I guess cancelled out anything the Twins did because of their playoff record, until KC actually won it all with essentially the same strategy (minor league development, pitching/speed/defense, core of three or four really good players surrounded by a bunch of utility guys whose sum is greater than their individual parts, etc.) And actually, there's a very simple answer. 2012. The White Sox got unexpected production out of 10+ rookie pitchers. The problem was down the stretch, they couldn't withstand the challenge from the team with the superior talent, the Tigers. In this case, we'll see if the Royals' system is still stronger, or the Indians/Tigers will prevail and the KC window will be closing, with only 2017 left to compete.

Something's rotten in Denmark...or is it "rotting"? The Royals have one of the worst minor league systems in the major leagues, behind the White Sox entering this season. Their top four guys are all basically terrible (Starling, the Borchard/Mitchell/Fields of KC history), injured (Zimmer/Almonte) or suspended for PED's (Mondesi, Jr.) The only player from their top ten who has contributed at the MLB level this year is Cheslor Cuthbert, their 10th rated prospect...essentially the equivalent of Jason Coats at this point in the 2016 campaign I think most of our prospect experts/followers would agree. Agreed? http://kingsofkauffman.com/2016/01/08/kc-r...pects-for-2016/ Think about the results even higher-rated White Sox prospects such as Carlos Sanchez, Micah Johnson, Frankie Montas, Erik Johnson, Tyler Saladino, Marcus Semien and Trayce Thompson have produced for the White Sox in the last two years. Thompson is the only player to really hold his own and seem like he belonged, also agreed? Rodon was the other, although I'm not sure we want to discuss his last 10 big league starts. Severe regression from the last 10 in 2015, and completely a different pitcher in terms of "swagger." Then you have this list (all players who were between 11-30 in the Royals' system entering 2016: Cheslor Cuthbert #10 704 OPS, better defense than Moustakas (Nicaragua)...704 OPS Paulo Orlando, White Sox castoff and career minor league journeyman...771 OPS Whit Merrifield (Zobrist Lite)...724 OPS, solid at 2B and OF Christian Colon (terrible draft pick for where he went in the first, but still better than Omar Infante)...629 (plus a Greg775 fave) Sal Butera...Twins' castoff, father played for Brewers...856 OPS Brett Eibner...best hair in the minor leagues, Prince Valiant, always injured...1.192 OPS (limited AB's, killed Sox) Raymond Fuentes....high draft pick of Padres, another castoff, 753 OPS Btw, Hunter Dozier/Jorge Bonifacio....next up in case of yet another injury (corner OF/DH/3B) The White Sox STRUGGLE with an admittedly higher rated system to get just ONE player to produce like that (not to mention bringing up players like Tim Anderson before they're actually ready). The Royals have had SEVEN players step in and hold their own just this year. That's not even counting Dyson and Terrence Gore, who have also contributed a lot from 2014-16. All of them, with the POSSIBLE exception of Jason Coats, would have been LOWER RATED in a farm system that's cumulatively lower rated than the White Sox 2016 system and whose top four prospects are complete NON-FACTORS this year. The same system that has traded away W.Myers, Odorizzi, Lamb, Montgomery, Manaea, Finnegan and Cody Reed...who would probably comprise a better system ALONE than the entirety of 2016 White Sox and 2016 Royals' current minor league prospects put together. Remember, this team BLEW draft picks on Colon, Zimmer and Starling, and are still ahead of the White Sox. It's just luck, though. Same thing with the Minnesota Twins' Piranhas from 2001-2010. Robin Ventura would have them in the same exact position over the last 3+ seasons were he to have been managing the Royals and Yost switched to managing the White Sox. Remember, Ned Yost is one of the worst managers in baseball (according to almost all experts), so surely Ventura would have won TWO World Series titles and even gotten KC to the playoffs in 2014 when they finished 10 games over .500.

QUOTE (GhostofDickeyKerr @ Jun 12, 2016 -> 10:35 PM) Funny, since Himes was the best GM he ever had and the only one who gave a deuce about developing the minor league system. KW. 1999-2001. #1 minor league system in the game, according to Baseball America. Mostly that talent was used for trading for veterans (Everett/F.Garcia/Ritchie) but Buehrle/Garland stuck around. Biddle and Danny Wright for awhile. Fogg/Wells/Reed/Olivo/Morse/Webster/Myette cut loose. Barcelo succumbed to injuries. Rauch, Borchard and Ginter the biggest busts.