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Beck didn't have much command with his fastball. He threw it 94-96, but it was his slider that saved him today. And Webb wasn't counted on by anyone to be a part of the bullpen. He was just AAA depth.

I think facing the Blue Jays with a decimated bullpen, a Twins team playing much better and out to avenge two sweeps and the Astros (best team in the AL the last month, along with Texas) will swing the pendulum firmly away from any more desperation additions.

Shields is NOT the reason for the loss today. We might as well blame the ump (Harrelson ploy) for not giving him a K on the 3rd pitch in the sequence to Big Papi. That really stuck with him and affected him with the next hitter, IMO.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Jun 23, 2016 -> 04:06 PM) Unbelievable........ Here we go...nobody can even figure out who to blame, as it's really genius in terms of front office construction to insulate both KW and Hahn from criticism.

The one thing the White Sox are CONSISTENTLY good at is playing just well enough when things are seemingly going south to keep everyone employed and the hamster/gerbil spinning on that wheel another year. Not really in it, but not completely out of it. Stuck in the middle. Same arguments everyone is having about the Bulls' situation going forward.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jun 23, 2016 -> 04:01 PM) Chances Burdi is called up? He's not in Arizona anymore. Hahn is coming up with a new fireable offense every week if he does that. The White Sox system used to be good at least at producing serviceable relievers. Ynoa has some potential, but Beck just doesn't belong at the major league level. Albers is toast and his confidence is shot. Jennings and Duke have been the bright spots. Robertson is starting to teeter as well.

GAME OVER Knew that was happening. Can't believe I just wasted five hours staying awake from 1 a.m. to 6 a.m. This team just doesn't have that killer instinct to put our boot down on another team's neck and crush them. The Red Sox gave us so many chances to sweep the series and we choked the bit.

Beck was like a deer in the headlights. Can't believe that JBJ let him off the hook with that bunt in the air to Lawrie.

How do you walk someone after you have him down 0-2? Might as well walk Bogaerts (pull a Maddon/Bonds) to load the bases. That would result in a wild pitch or walk by Purke, undoubtedly. Such a pathetic but predictable ending looming...hope I'm wrong.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jun 23, 2016 -> 03:52 PM) On the plus side, at least 3 of 4 vs Boston and the offense woke up. Shuck sucks though, horrible. Shields righted the ship. That might end up being more relevant in 2017 and 2018 than this season, but the bleeding there has stopped (for now). On the negative side, Albers and Jones continue to struggle coming up with clean innings. We just have a huge issue in the 7th and 8th inning right now, getting games to Robertson. And Robertson's really starting to show signs of wearing down. When his cutter isn't crisp, he gives up lots of hits, and his walk rate is very high for a closer. I'm convinced his best pitch is that knuckle curve, not the cutter.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jun 23, 2016 -> 03:49 PM) I'd much rather have won the first 3 games and lost this one than lost the first 3 and won this one. I don't know what you're talking about. We're falling further and further behind in the AL Central. If we lose it here, Detroit will be 2 games clear and we will be six games back. There's going to be so many teams stacked up in the race for the two wild card spots, the odds will turn against them (see last August)...especially when they have to actually beat AL Central foes down the stretch. And they definitely can't count on sweeping Minnesota a THIRD time this season.

For a veteran "contact" hitter, and a player who has had lots of opportunities to get into his offensive rhythm recently....Shuck just has to get the job done ONE of those times. Anderson's failures are a bit more excusable. And Eaton's had a good game overall, offensively and defensively. Hard to rip on him too much.

Well...this game is a disaster because we have to take a bullpen that has been simply destroyed and face the Blue Jays. Not to mention the Astros next week are one of the hottest teams in baseball. Just hard to recover mentally from not scoring a single run twice with bases loaded, no outs. Purke or Ynoa might hold on for one inning, but the only way the White Sox are going to score is with a homer.

Eaton swinging at lots of high pitches he can't get on top of. Crazy thing is that if Anderson doesn't deflect that ball by Pedroia (against Nate Jones) they have to hold the runner at 3rd and we win by 1.

Boston has a lefty up in the pen... This is nuts. Same 3 hitters can't fail two times, can they? Big decision about leaving Kimbrel in or using the lefty against EATON. Well, that was predictable. Leaving Kimbrel in.

Hernandez/Betts/Pedroia/Bogaerts aren't going to be easy for Ynoa/Purke. Need at least 2 runs, if not 3. White Sox 3-1 on the road in extra innings. The loss was the stupid Tuesday night Scott Carroll disaster May 6th that started this whole string of 13-26.

Please don't load the bases...uh-oh. This is scary.

OMG, Purke and Ynoa are going to attempt to save it.

About to give up on Avi Garcia but he finally came through with a big hit last time up but wasn't scored due to Shuck/Anderson/Eaton. Let's see if he can keep building his "clutch" rep.

QUOTE (Condor13 @ Jun 23, 2016 -> 03:32 PM) He left while only giving up 1, bullpen gave up the other two. He looked much much better. Gutted it out. Had a bad ball/strike call go against. Albers gave up 2 of his runs. Was mostly in the low 90's, high was 94. Did a much better job throwing curves and change-ups...kept hitters off balance. Kind of walked a tightrope but he should have gotten the victory if not for our bullpen.

Pretty crazy to go with Robertson for another inning. He was really labouring. Duke again? Shields' start would have turned out completely different had the umpire given him the strike on Ortiz with his 3rd pitch in the 6th. Totally changed the complexion of that inning around.

Bradley bunts on his own, then when they really need the bunt...he doesn't. Farrell having a much worse series than Ventura.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jun 23, 2016 -> 09:08 AM) right, and you have the FULL picture on Tim Anderson based on one week of at bats, right? You dont like name lists? Where did I claim to have the FULL picture on Tim Anderson? There are obviously some concerns still...less on the defensive side than offensively. I simply asked what is a REASONABLE goal for our Latin American program? When should we expect to start seeing some positive results at the big league level? Nobody can answer that, apparently.

The first excuses are coming out...the same conditions could have applied in 2013, there was even more pressure on him because it cost Jake Odorrizi and Wil Myers. “James is putting an awful lot of pressure on himself to try to justify the trade,” White Sox pitching coach Don Cooper said.”He’s trying too hard. He’s rushing, anxious, going to fast, and because of that he’s not throwing enough first pitch strikes and/or getting ahead of hitters.” Said White Sox manager Robin Ventura: “Coming into a new situation, and I don’t know if it’s to impress, but to do something a little more, or try and do it better,” Ventura said. “Not that guys don’t want to do that, but there comes a point where you do too much. You try and overcompensate and it ends up going completely the wrong way.” “Strong competitor. A put-away changeup,” Farrell said. “A guy that I think would thrive on the bigger stage or in the spotlight. We don’t take anything for granted. Yeah, he’s had little bit of a rough go in his time coming back to the American League, but still very capable of making quality pitches.” “He’s going to be fine eventually. Hopefully that starts (today),” Cooper said. “There’s no guarantee of that, but I believe in my heart that he’s going to come out of this and he’ll be fine.” http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/red_sox...lping_white_sox Red Sox fans thankful the White Sox stopped them from bringing in James Shields

Nobody ever answered the question of what GOALPOSTS the White Sox have set for their Latin American development program... Just saw a list of names. How is that helpful to know whether the money invested has been spent wisely or not so far? (Yes, I know, according to Dick Allen, we won't have the full picture until 2019-2022...even though Rick Hahn will likely be long gone by then.)